Gregory Scarpa

[AlexfromSouth]

Was Scarpa's origins really from northen Italy, Veneto?

[PolackTony]

Was Scarpa's origins really from northen Italy, Veneto?

My understanding is yes, but I haven’t looked into his genealogical records personally. Worth noting that the surname Scarpa is by far most frequent in Veneto province.

There must be a really small number of actual made members of LCN with ancestry from Veneto, though I’ve never seen a list. The one that, so far as I am aware, really takes the cake in this regard was Chicago Heights capo Al Pilotto. Pilotto’s family was from a formerly majority German speaking area of the Venetian alps all the way up by the border with Austria (though given the surname I assume Pilotto was from one of the Italian rather than German speaking comuni there). The great majority of the “northerners” that I’ve seen inducted into LCN were actually from Central Italy rather than the “real” north — Lazio, Marche, Toscana. And even in many cases that I’ve seen some of these guys were from “border” areas of the center like Frosinone, Lazio and Ascoli, Marche which were influenced by the historic Kingdom of Naples and where the local dialetti were related to the broader Neapolitan language group, so they had strong cultural continuities with the south proper.

[B.]

Was Scarpa's origins really from northen Italy, Veneto?

My understanding is yes, but I haven’t looked into his genealogical records personally. Worth noting that the surname Scarpa is by far most frequent in Veneto province.

There must be a really small number of actual made members of LCN with ancestry from Veneto, though I’ve never seen a list. The one that, so far as I am aware, really takes the cake in this regard was Chicago Heights capo Al Pilotto. Pilotto’s family was from a formerly majority German speaking area of the Venetian alps all the way up by the border with Austria (though given the surname I assume Pilotto was from one of the Italian rather than German speaking comuni there). The great majority of the “northerners” that I’ve seen inducted into LCN were actually from Central Italy rather than the “real” north — Lazio, Marche, Toscana. And even in many cases that I’ve seen some of these guys were from “border” areas of the center like Frosinone, Lazio and Ascoli, Marche which were influenced by the historic Kingdom of Naples and where the local dialetti were related to the broader Neapolitan language group, so they had strong cultural continuities with the south proper.

Good to know -- only other Austro-Italian member I know of is Louis Boschetto who I wrote about.

[Amershire_Ed]

I swear I read once that Scarpa felt like he was never going to get made *because* of his northern Italian heritage. Can’t remember where.

[Pmac2]

Scarpa got made at a young age 21. In 1950 according to himself. Profaci was boss he wanted only sicilians but what could he do if siicilains are sponcering another italian who is ameeican raised.

[davidf1989]

Did he side with Profaci against the Gallo brothers?

[Pmac2]

he didnt get along with the gallos. his loyalty was to profaci. his capo i think charlie sidge lociero was close to profaci

[B.]

LoCicero was a Profaci loyalist then went through the motions of supporting Magliocco but LoCicero was believed to be secretly playing the fence with the Gallos on behalf of Carlo Gambino. Scarpa was tasked with murder conspiracies against both the Gallos and Magliocco at different points.

[davidf1989]

Was Scarpa close to Joe Colombo and Carmine Persico?

Would Frankie Blue Eyes Sparaco have known Greg Scarpa?

[MightyDR]

Was Scarpa close to Joe Colombo and Carmine Persico?

The way Joey Cantalupo describes it in his book, Scarpa was part of Colombo's inner circle and was mentioned being around him a lot. Makes sense, since Scarpa was able to provide a lot of information about Colombo.

Cantalupo said Scarpa was respected by Persico.