You're conflating NYC/NYS penal justice system with the Federal System. Two very different animals.
With that said, the purpose of bail is not to be punitive, but solely to guarantee the presence of the accused at trial.
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You're conflating NYC/NYS penal justice system with the Federal System. Two very different animals.
And if some lowlife piece of shit doesn't have the cash for bail, too f@$(%* bad. They can rot until trial.
You're wasting your breath on this with these guys, no matter how true your words are. People just don't get it.
He probably would have been made eventually and promoted to captain, considering what a huge earner he was. He was with the Gambinos in the modern era, where making money means more than being tough guy.bluehouse wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:31 pm I saw sal ramonos interview on value entertainment.He says he had aspirations to be a boss.The guy wasnt even made how the fuck did he think he was going to go from stock broker to boss of the gambinos.This just tells you the type of people who watch these podcasts and believe this type of shit
i hear that, i read his book the other day, it was ok, an interesting take from his end on things. good things to say about a few guys like vinny gorgeous who he bumped into in the can a few timesjoeycigars wrote: ↑Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:38 amJR Gotti paid for 4 trials + Bail Vig on 10 million and federal security detail , they tried to drain him he still has money ,Dapper_Don wrote: ↑Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:43 am Thanks for posting
Junior Gotti also had $10M bail back in the late 90s, he also had another bail package of $7M in 2005. The $10M figure was one of the largest (if not the biggest) in the country at that time.
Plus the quick appeal to emotion by brining up if pedo's get treated like that. Why does it matter, it's different cases. Conflating situations/crimes is not helpful. Russo is in charge of a ~90 member organization that swore to murder on its behalf. Vinny Unions is on record threatening to kill the union President.Dave65827 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:35 pm Yeah we don’t get why hardened career criminals that can order dozens to commit acts of violence should be released
Russo gets tied to a bed? Boo hoo. Shouldn’t be a boss of a fucking criminal organization
Orena has to die in prison for his crimes? Boo hoo. Shouldn’t have ordered all those murders
But judging by his age + the fact the Sicilian faction controls it, doesn't seem like he would make it too far. Took guys like Grillo decades just to become a captain.TallGuy19 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:55 pmHe probably would have been made eventually and promoted to captain, considering what a huge earner he was. He was with the Gambinos in the modern era, where making money means more than being tough guy.bluehouse wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 4:31 pm I saw sal ramonos interview on value entertainment.He says he had aspirations to be a boss.The guy wasnt even made how the fuck did he think he was going to go from stock broker to boss of the gambinos.This just tells you the type of people who watch these podcasts and believe this type of shit
Dapper_Don wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:15 pmi hear that, i read his book the other day, it was ok, an interesting take from his end on things. good things to say about a few guys like vinny gorgeous who he bumped into in the can a few timesjoeycigars wrote: ↑Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:38 amJR Gotti paid for 4 trials + Bail Vig on 10 million and federal security detail , they tried to drain him he still has money ,Dapper_Don wrote: ↑Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:43 am Thanks for posting
Junior Gotti also had $10M bail back in the late 90s, he also had another bail package of $7M in 2005. The $10M figure was one of the largest (if not the biggest) in the country at that time.
Dave65827 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:35 pm Yeah we don’t get why hardened career criminals that can order dozens to commit acts of violence should be released
Russo gets tied to a bed? Boo hoo. Shouldn’t be a boss of a fucking criminal organization
Orena has to die in prison for his crimes? Boo hoo. Shouldn’t have ordered all those murders
Whats the good word buddy? I also consider you one of the OG's from these forums.Hope all is well on your end.joeycigars wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 7:17 pmDapper_Don wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:15 pmi hear that, i read his book the other day, it was ok, an interesting take from his end on things. good things to say about a few guys like vinny gorgeous who he bumped into in the can a few timesjoeycigars wrote: ↑Fri Oct 29, 2021 9:38 amJR Gotti paid for 4 trials + Bail Vig on 10 million and federal security detail , they tried to drain him he still has money ,Dapper_Don wrote: ↑Fri Oct 29, 2021 4:43 am Thanks for posting
Junior Gotti also had $10M bail back in the late 90s, he also had another bail package of $7M in 2005. The $10M figure was one of the largest (if not the biggest) in the country at that time.
Dapper_Don and Burno187 in the same thread gave me a flashback ,Nice to read both of you guys ...Respecting the old school wisdom