Yea If you listen to the tapes it’s always the opposite. Like he refers to his brother Nick as joy and says she talking about him. Or if he says someone’s from north side they’re actually from south side. The tapes with Nick ferriola were interesting from the parts they let out. Said he was making a 100 grand a week which of course has to be gross but they hit him with a big fine cuz of that. Don’t know what happened with that fine but Nick lives in a nice house with range rovers parked in the driveway. His wife makes good money tho. He claimed poverty when they gave him that multi million dollar fine but the ferriolas live very wellPolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:42 pmThanks for the info there, Pete. That makes sense (the “tall” fella).Pete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:30 pm Also for the record I asked Frank jr about ferriola being sr godson he didn’t want to answer that probably because he doesn’t talk much about anyone present day. The reason I was curious is cuz I never heard of sr and joe ferriola being close so I was curious but they literally lived a street over from each other so I didn’t know if maybe they were close
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I agree with phat,I love those old fucks and he's right.we all got some cosa nostra in us.I personnely love the life.I think we on the forum would be the ultimate crew! - camerono
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Where did you ask him, on the tour he was giving?
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The close connection between the Ferriolas and the Calabreses is just another proof, among the many, regarding the very close connection between the Cicero and Chinatown crews which represented one group aka the South group. This also proves that Nick didnt know much regarding the connections and the statuses of some of those fellas, obviously because he wasnt a money maker and didnt mingle very often with other members.Pete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:25 pmNick ferriola is Frank sr godson but he’s not tall but Frank would purposely say for instance if someone was short he would say the tall guy or refer to guys as girls etc basically the opposite. His godson Nick ferriola would visit him often in prisonPolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:42 pm A question that came to mind. Has it ever been thought that Frank Calabrese sponsored anyone for membership? I ask because, in one of the transcripts for Frank Jr and Sr's prison conversations, Frank Sr mentions a "tall fella" and then tells Jr "that's my godson". Maybe he's just talking in code, but I presume that if the guy he was referring to was his actual godson, Frank Jr wouldn't have to be told who he was. Anyone recall who Frank Sr may have been referring to as the "tall fella" who was his "godson"? IIRC this was during a convo where Sr mentioned "Rota" ("Tires" in Italian).
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Nick was fairly young when his father passed, no? Who would have been running what was the Chinatown crew at that point if LaPietra and I believe Monteleone both were in prison in the 80s?Villain wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:40 amThe close connection between the Ferriolas and the Calabreses is just another proof, among the many, regarding the very close connection between the Cicero and Chinatown crews which represented one group aka the South group. This also proves that Nick didnt know much regarding the connections and the statuses of some of those fellas, obviously because he wasnt a money maker and didnt mingle very often with other members.Pete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:25 pmNick ferriola is Frank sr godson but he’s not tall but Frank would purposely say for instance if someone was short he would say the tall guy or refer to guys as girls etc basically the opposite. His godson Nick ferriola would visit him often in prisonPolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:42 pm A question that came to mind. Has it ever been thought that Frank Calabrese sponsored anyone for membership? I ask because, in one of the transcripts for Frank Jr and Sr's prison conversations, Frank Sr mentions a "tall fella" and then tells Jr "that's my godson". Maybe he's just talking in code, but I presume that if the guy he was referring to was his actual godson, Frank Jr wouldn't have to be told who he was. Anyone recall who Frank Sr may have been referring to as the "tall fella" who was his "godson"? IIRC this was during a convo where Sr mentioned "Rota" ("Tires" in Italian).
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I was talking about Nick C....not Nick F. Sorry for the confusion budSolarSolano wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:59 amNick was fairly young when his father passed, no? Who would have been running what was the Chinatown crew at that point if LaPietra and I believe Monteleone both were in prison in the 80s?Villain wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:40 amThe close connection between the Ferriolas and the Calabreses is just another proof, among the many, regarding the very close connection between the Cicero and Chinatown crews which represented one group aka the South group. This also proves that Nick didnt know much regarding the connections and the statuses of some of those fellas, obviously because he wasnt a money maker and didnt mingle very often with other members.Pete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:25 pmNick ferriola is Frank sr godson but he’s not tall but Frank would purposely say for instance if someone was short he would say the tall guy or refer to guys as girls etc basically the opposite. His godson Nick ferriola would visit him often in prisonPolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:42 pm A question that came to mind. Has it ever been thought that Frank Calabrese sponsored anyone for membership? I ask because, in one of the transcripts for Frank Jr and Sr's prison conversations, Frank Sr mentions a "tall fella" and then tells Jr "that's my godson". Maybe he's just talking in code, but I presume that if the guy he was referring to was his actual godson, Frank Jr wouldn't have to be told who he was. Anyone recall who Frank Sr may have been referring to as the "tall fella" who was his "godson"? IIRC this was during a convo where Sr mentioned "Rota" ("Tires" in Italian).
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Sorry - I agree Nick Calabrese was not an earner and strictly muscle. It seemed Gerry Scarpelli knew far more in his debriefings before he killed himself in terms of how the Outfit was structured - and in my view, Scarpelli was the same as Nick in that he was only used for hits and to collect and enforce.Villain wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:01 amI was talking about Nick C....not Nick F. Sorry for the confusion budSolarSolano wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:59 amNick was fairly young when his father passed, no? Who would have been running what was the Chinatown crew at that point if LaPietra and I believe Monteleone both were in prison in the 80s?Villain wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:40 amThe close connection between the Ferriolas and the Calabreses is just another proof, among the many, regarding the very close connection between the Cicero and Chinatown crews which represented one group aka the South group. This also proves that Nick didnt know much regarding the connections and the statuses of some of those fellas, obviously because he wasnt a money maker and didnt mingle very often with other members.Pete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:25 pmNick ferriola is Frank sr godson but he’s not tall but Frank would purposely say for instance if someone was short he would say the tall guy or refer to guys as girls etc basically the opposite. His godson Nick ferriola would visit him often in prisonPolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:42 pm A question that came to mind. Has it ever been thought that Frank Calabrese sponsored anyone for membership? I ask because, in one of the transcripts for Frank Jr and Sr's prison conversations, Frank Sr mentions a "tall fella" and then tells Jr "that's my godson". Maybe he's just talking in code, but I presume that if the guy he was referring to was his actual godson, Frank Jr wouldn't have to be told who he was. Anyone recall who Frank Sr may have been referring to as the "tall fella" who was his "godson"? IIRC this was during a convo where Sr mentioned "Rota" ("Tires" in Italian).
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I completely agreeSolarSolano wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:07 amSorry - I agree Nick Calabrese was not an earner and strictly muscle. It seemed Gerry Scarpelli knew far more in his debriefings before he killed himself in terms of how the Outfit was structured - and in my view, Scarpelli was the same as Nick in that he was only used for hits and to collect and enforce.Villain wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:01 amI was talking about Nick C....not Nick F. Sorry for the confusion budSolarSolano wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:59 amNick was fairly young when his father passed, no? Who would have been running what was the Chinatown crew at that point if LaPietra and I believe Monteleone both were in prison in the 80s?Villain wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:40 amThe close connection between the Ferriolas and the Calabreses is just another proof, among the many, regarding the very close connection between the Cicero and Chinatown crews which represented one group aka the South group. This also proves that Nick didnt know much regarding the connections and the statuses of some of those fellas, obviously because he wasnt a money maker and didnt mingle very often with other members.Pete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:25 pmNick ferriola is Frank sr godson but he’s not tall but Frank would purposely say for instance if someone was short he would say the tall guy or refer to guys as girls etc basically the opposite. His godson Nick ferriola would visit him often in prisonPolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:42 pm A question that came to mind. Has it ever been thought that Frank Calabrese sponsored anyone for membership? I ask because, in one of the transcripts for Frank Jr and Sr's prison conversations, Frank Sr mentions a "tall fella" and then tells Jr "that's my godson". Maybe he's just talking in code, but I presume that if the guy he was referring to was his actual godson, Frank Jr wouldn't have to be told who he was. Anyone recall who Frank Sr may have been referring to as the "tall fella" who was his "godson"? IIRC this was during a convo where Sr mentioned "Rota" ("Tires" in Italian).
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Jimmy LaPietraSolarSolano wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:59 amNick was fairly young when his father passed, no? Who would have been running what was the Chinatown crew at that point if LaPietra and I believe Monteleone both were in prison in the 80s?Villain wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:40 amThe close connection between the Ferriolas and the Calabreses is just another proof, among the many, regarding the very close connection between the Cicero and Chinatown crews which represented one group aka the South group. This also proves that Nick didnt know much regarding the connections and the statuses of some of those fellas, obviously because he wasnt a money maker and didnt mingle very often with other members.Pete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:25 pmNick ferriola is Frank sr godson but he’s not tall but Frank would purposely say for instance if someone was short he would say the tall guy or refer to guys as girls etc basically the opposite. His godson Nick ferriola would visit him often in prisonPolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:42 pm A question that came to mind. Has it ever been thought that Frank Calabrese sponsored anyone for membership? I ask because, in one of the transcripts for Frank Jr and Sr's prison conversations, Frank Sr mentions a "tall fella" and then tells Jr "that's my godson". Maybe he's just talking in code, but I presume that if the guy he was referring to was his actual godson, Frank Jr wouldn't have to be told who he was. Anyone recall who Frank Sr may have been referring to as the "tall fella" who was his "godson"? IIRC this was during a convo where Sr mentioned "Rota" ("Tires" in Italian).
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Did Jimmie step aside when Apes came home or right up until he died in 93?Snakes wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:50 amJimmy LaPietraSolarSolano wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:59 amNick was fairly young when his father passed, no? Who would have been running what was the Chinatown crew at that point if LaPietra and I believe Monteleone both were in prison in the 80s?Villain wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:40 amThe close connection between the Ferriolas and the Calabreses is just another proof, among the many, regarding the very close connection between the Cicero and Chinatown crews which represented one group aka the South group. This also proves that Nick didnt know much regarding the connections and the statuses of some of those fellas, obviously because he wasnt a money maker and didnt mingle very often with other members.Pete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:25 pmNick ferriola is Frank sr godson but he’s not tall but Frank would purposely say for instance if someone was short he would say the tall guy or refer to guys as girls etc basically the opposite. His godson Nick ferriola would visit him often in prisonPolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:42 pm A question that came to mind. Has it ever been thought that Frank Calabrese sponsored anyone for membership? I ask because, in one of the transcripts for Frank Jr and Sr's prison conversations, Frank Sr mentions a "tall fella" and then tells Jr "that's my godson". Maybe he's just talking in code, but I presume that if the guy he was referring to was his actual godson, Frank Jr wouldn't have to be told who he was. Anyone recall who Frank Sr may have been referring to as the "tall fella" who was his "godson"? IIRC this was during a convo where Sr mentioned "Rota" ("Tires" in Italian).
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Pretty sure he bossed that crew until he died. Apes then took over. When he became Outfit boss, Toots Caruso took over. I'm sure Angelo LaPietra also had some sort of say in the years before he died.SolarSolano wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:33 amDid Jimmie step aside when Apes came home or right up until he died in 93?Snakes wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:50 amJimmy LaPietraSolarSolano wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:59 amNick was fairly young when his father passed, no? Who would have been running what was the Chinatown crew at that point if LaPietra and I believe Monteleone both were in prison in the 80s?Villain wrote: ↑Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:40 amThe close connection between the Ferriolas and the Calabreses is just another proof, among the many, regarding the very close connection between the Cicero and Chinatown crews which represented one group aka the South group. This also proves that Nick didnt know much regarding the connections and the statuses of some of those fellas, obviously because he wasnt a money maker and didnt mingle very often with other members.Pete wrote: ↑Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:25 pmNick ferriola is Frank sr godson but he’s not tall but Frank would purposely say for instance if someone was short he would say the tall guy or refer to guys as girls etc basically the opposite. His godson Nick ferriola would visit him often in prisonPolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 8:42 pm A question that came to mind. Has it ever been thought that Frank Calabrese sponsored anyone for membership? I ask because, in one of the transcripts for Frank Jr and Sr's prison conversations, Frank Sr mentions a "tall fella" and then tells Jr "that's my godson". Maybe he's just talking in code, but I presume that if the guy he was referring to was his actual godson, Frank Jr wouldn't have to be told who he was. Anyone recall who Frank Sr may have been referring to as the "tall fella" who was his "godson"? IIRC this was during a convo where Sr mentioned "Rota" ("Tires" in Italian).
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