Don’t give this site any clicks. Its garbagePatrickgold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:16 pm Looks like John Fosco is at it again. This article is lengthy
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When I saw this, for a split second I was like: there’s a JOHN Fosco now??Patrickgold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:16 pm Looks like John Fosco is at it again. This article is lengthy
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Oopps I mean JoePolackTony wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:04 pmWhen I saw this, for a split second I was like: there’s a JOHN Fosco now??Patrickgold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:16 pm Looks like John Fosco is at it again. This article is lengthy
https://www.americannewspost.com/joseph ... ddendum-8/
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Wow, what a rambling diatribe. I normally don't mind Joe and have corresponded with him in the past but this read like something I'd type if I was drunk and had an axe to grind.PolackTony wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:04 pmWhen I saw this, for a split second I was like: there’s a JOHN Fosco now??Patrickgold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:16 pm Looks like John Fosco is at it again. This article is lengthy
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The best part is when he is keen to underscore that he could only write this piece now, as both his writing skills and emotional state have improved over the years.
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Thanks for this and ill try to find more info about this guy. Back in the days the Outfit obviously had something going on around NM.B. wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:56 pm Okay, I think I found the identity of the Petrino from Albequerque.
- Leo Petrino, born 1918 in Italy and lived in Chicago where he married a woman with the maiden name Greco.
- Moved to Albequerque where it appears he was in some kind of legal trouble in the late 1950s. NewspaperArchive.com has a couple articles I can't access but from what I can see from Google it looks like he was in some kind of trouble:
https://newspaperarchive.com/albuquerqu ... -1958-p-5/
https://newspaperarchive.com/albuquerqu ... -1963-p-7/
- Died in New Mexico in 2008.
Curious if you guys can find anything else but everything about him matches what my family friend said about him, including him living in Chicago before NM and having a connection to Italy.
It's always possible he wasn't connected to the Chicago outfit and was just a seedy Italian guy living in NM. Interesting though that Villain found those NM connections to high-level Chicago outfit guys.
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He needs one or two pills of xanax lolSnakes wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:14 amWow, what a rambling diatribe. I normally don't mind Joe and have corresponded with him in the past but this read like something I'd type if I was drunk and had an axe to grind.PolackTony wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:04 pmWhen I saw this, for a split second I was like: there’s a JOHN Fosco now??Patrickgold wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:16 pm Looks like John Fosco is at it again. This article is lengthy
https://www.americannewspost.com/joseph ... ddendum-8/
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1979 news on Vic Comforte at 6:15....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWbyq9w ... nel=MOBFAX
Comforte was allegedly one time lieutenant for Joey Glimco.
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Comforte was allegedly one time lieutenant for Joey Glimco.
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Interesting article in the New Yorker today discussing the moral ambiguity behind the DOJ's (and specifically the ATF) use of stings as it relates to undercovers recruiting people to raid fake drug stash houses. It had a very specific focus on Florida and the Midwest with a lot of emphasis on Chicago. No discussion on Panozzo though. He didn't get busted on the first try right? His crew had already been doing them and the last one was a sting?
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Regarding Panozzo and Koroluk, correct. They had been pulling several rips like that a year for some number of years.funkster wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:12 pm Interesting article in the New Yorker today discussing the moral ambiguity behind the DOJ's (and specifically the ATF) use of stings as it relates to undercovers recruiting people to raid fake drug stash houses. It had a very specific focus on Florida and the Midwest with a lot of emphasis on Chicago. No discussion on Panozzo though. He didn't get busted on the first try right? His crew had already been doing them and the last one was a sting?
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Quite a few of the guys convicted got early release. Guessing they won't be though lol.
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Looks like Polchan will see freedom eventually. Still has to do 30 years
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Nah, those particularly ethical concerns don’t apply to this case, lol. I can, of course, think of one obvious and unrelated way these guys could curry favor to gain leniency and I rather doubt that will happen with Bobby P.
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1979 testimony of Chicago Outfit associate and Grand Av crew member Irvin Weiner. Since its a quite long testimony, I managed to take out only the most interesting parts.
Mr. WOLF - What is your current residence.?
Mr. WEINER - My residence?.
Mr. WOLF - Yes.
Mr. WEINER - 7163 Carol Court, Niles,, Ill.
Mr. WOLF - That is your residence address?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - What is your current business address ?
Mr. WEINER. 1010 South State Street,, Chicago, Ill.
Mr. WOLF - Are you affiliated with a firm ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - What is the name?
Mr. WEINER. American Bonding Agency.
Mr. WOLF - In what capacity are you affiliated with that firm?
Mr. WEINER - I am president.
Mr. WOLF - Mr. Weiner, the first area of questions will concern your relationship with Jack Ruby. For the committee members this is listed on tab 2 of the briefing book. When was the first time you met Jack Ruby, Mr. Weiner.?
Mr. WEINER - I don't know. I don't remember. I went to school with his brother, Earl. Jack was a little older than I was. I might have met Jack Ruby four or five times in my life.
Mr. WOLF - Did you meet him prior to 1960 which was the election of President Kennedy ?
Mr. WEINER - Oh, yes.
Mr. WOLF - Did you meet him prior to 1950?
Mr. WEINER - It could have been.
Mr. WOLF - Do you recall--
Mr. WEINER - I would say I met him probably in the 1930's.
Mr. WOLF - What were the circumstances of your first meeting?
Mr. WEINER - It was An older brother of a friend of mine, not even a good friend. Somebody I knew.
Mr. WOLF - You are speaking of Earl ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - You met Earl in high school ?.
Mr. WEINER - Right.
Mr. WOLF - Were you friendly with Earl ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - Did you meet other members of the Ruby family ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't think I did.
Mr. WOLF - Were you ever to the Ruby house ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't believe I was.
Mr. WOLF - All your contacts with Jack Ruby were during the 1930's?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - When were your other contacts with Jack Ruby?
Mr. WEINER - He called me up one time.
Mr. WOLF - When was that?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember. It was in the sixties, prior to the assassination of the President.
Mr. WOLF - How much prior to the assassination ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't have any idea.
Mr. WOLF - You do recollect that call ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes. I recollect that call because I have had a lot of problems because of that call.
Mr. WOLF - Was that call on October 26, 1963 ?
Mr. WEINER - It could have been.
Mr. WOLF - One month prior to the assassination ?
Mr. WEINER - It could have been.
Mr. WOLF - At what time previous to that call do you recollect seeing Jack Ruby ?
Mr. WEINER - Maybe 10 or 15 years prior to that.
Mr. WOLF - Ten or fifteen years prior to the call ?
Mr. WEINER - Correct.
Mr. WOLF - What was discussed during that phone call ?
Mr. WEINER - Jack Ruby called me. Evidently he had a nightclub in Dallas, Tex. He had a striptease night, one night a week he had an amateur striptease. Some union that was affiliated with entertainers had stopped him. They asked him to stop because the amateur entertainers were not members of the union. He stopped and another competitor of his opened up. He called me and wanted to know if I would write a bond. He was looking to get an injunction. The lawyer told him if he got an injunction he would have to put up a bond. He asked me if I would do that and I told him no. Then he told me he was going to file a lawsuit. That was the extent of our conversation. It was just in relation to that. I never heard from him since and I have never heard from him prior to that.
Mr. WOLF - You had no contact with him prior to that time ?
Mr. WEINER - Absolutely no.
Mr. WOLF - How did Jack Ruby come to call you ?
Mr. WEINER - Through his brother. That was my business, writing bonds. I don't have any idea.
Mr. WOLF - Why did you refuse to write the bond that. he requested ?
Mr. WEINER - I didn't have the authority to write it.
Mr. WOLF - Did you direct him to somebody who did ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Your testimony was that was the business you were in at that time ?
Mr. WEINER - I still am.
Mr. WOLF - Why do you say you had no authority to write a bond ?
Mr. WEINER - If I remember correctly I don't think the company was authorized to do business in Texas. I just didn't want to get involved in it. There was no way I could do it.
Mr. WOLF - What was the amount of the bond that Jack Ruby was seeking ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember that. When he started talking to me all I did was look to get rid of him. I didn't want to have anything with it. I was just being courteous.
Mr. WOLF - You had no contacts for 15 years previous to that call with Jack Ruby ?
Mr. WEINER - I never had contact with Jack Ruby, never socially. Never went with him anywhere, never broke bread with him, never had anything to do with Jack Ruby at any time in my life.
Mr. WOLF - What was the contact 15 years prior to that phone call with Jack Ruby ?
Mr. WEINER How the hell do I know.
Mr. WOLF - You testified
Mr. WEINER - I am just guessing. It could have been 30 years before. I don't remember.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Michael Shore ?
Mr. WEINER - I sure do.
Mr. WOLF - How do you know Mr. Shore ?
Mr. WEINER - I know Mr. Shore all my life, a boyhood friend of mine. Still is.
Mr. WOLF - Do you have business with Mr. Shore ?
Mr. WEINER - Right now I have.
Mr. WOLF - During the period of time 1960-63 did you have business with Mr. Shore ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't think so.
Mr. WOLF - What is your business with Mr. Shore ?
Mr. WEINER - Bringing products in from Japan.
Mr. WOLF - Mr. Shore is a close friend of yours ?.
Mr. WEINER - Very close friend of mine.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever discussed with Mr. Shore the Jack Ruby phone call to yourself?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Has Mr. Shore ever discussed with you Jack Ruby ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - What has he told you ?
Mr. WEINER - He said that he arranged with Earl to try to get him some legal help in--there was an attorney in San Francisco that I think Michael Shore knew and Earl wanted to hire him, I forget his name.
Mr. WOLF - Did Mr. Shore indicate anything else to you about Jack Ruby?.
Mr. WEINER - That is about it.
Mr. WOLF - Concerning the phone call you received from Mike Shore regarding getting an attorney for Jack Ruby--
Mr. WEINER - I didn't receive the phone call. I spoke to him in person.
Mr. WOLF - Where was that?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember. It is a long time ago.
Mr. WOLF - When was that ?
Mr. WEINER - When ?
Mr. WOLF - Approximately how long after Ruby shot Oswald was it ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't know. The next time I saw him--in those years I would see him on trips in California or if he came to Chicago. I don't remember when or how it was. It was just conversation.
Mr. WOLF - Did he ask you for any suggestions regarding representation of Jack Ruby-?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Mr. Weiner, have you ever been to Cuba ?.
Mr. WEINER - Have I been to Cuba ?
Mr. WOLF - Yes.
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - When were you in Cuba ?
Mr. WEINER - In 1958 or 1959.
Mr. WOLF - Was that one trip you are referring to ?
Mr. WEINER - I made a few trips there.
Mr. WOLF - What was the purpose of your trips to Cuba ?
Mr. WEINER - One or two just for pleasure. Another trip I made was--I guess they were all pleasure.
Mr. WOLF - You have never been to Cuba on a business trip ?
Mr. WEINER - Not that I remember.
Mr. WOLF - About how many times did you go to Cuba for pleasure ?
Mr. WEINER - Maybe three or four.
Mr. WOLF - Were those all during the 1959, 1959 period ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - Were you ever in Cuba after Fidel Castro took over, which was January 1, 1959 ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - When you were in Cuba who did you visit ?
Mr. WEINER - Whom did I visit ? There was a friend of mine that worked in one of the casinos there, his name was Sam off. I visited him.
Mr. WOLF - Did you go by yourself or with other individuals ?
Mr. WEINER - I went with somebody else.
Mr. WOLF - Who else did you go with ?
Mr. WEINER - A fellow by the name of Felix Alderisio.
Mr. WOLF - Was he traveling for pleasure ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes. As far as I know he was.
Mr. WOLF - On how many of your trips did you accompany Mr. Alderisio ?
Mr. WEINER - I think all of them. I am not sure. It has been a long time ago.
Mr. WOLF - At what hotels did you stay at when you visited Cuba ?
Mr. WEINER - The Nacionale. I don't remember the other names.
Mr. WOLF - Do you recall traveling to Cuba with Allen Dorfman ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - Was he on all of your trips ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes; he was.
Mr. WOLF - He was on all of your trips ?
Mr. WEINER - No; he was on one trip.
Mr. WOLF - Which trip was that ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember but there were four of us on that trip.
Mr. WEINER - No; I didn't.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Santos Trafficante
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - Have you met Mr. Trafficante ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - When were your meetings with Mr. Trafficante?
Mr. WEINER - I met him at a club in Cuba.
Mr. WOLF - What club was that ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember the name of the club. It was an outdoor casnio and nightclub.
Mr. WOLF - Do you remember what trip to Cuba this was on that you met Mr. Trafficante ?
Mr. WEINER - No; I don't.
Mr. WOLF - What other meetings did you have with Mr. Trafficante ?
Mr. WEINER - I met him in Florida.
Mr. WOLF - When was that ?
Mr. WEINER - About 1963.
Mr. WOLF - Was that prior to or subsequent to the assassination of President Kennedy ?
Mr. WEINER - Prior.
Mr. WOLF - How much prior was it ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't know.
Mr. WOLF - How do you recollect it was prior to the assassination
Mr. WEINER - Well, I am just guessing. When was the assassination ?
Mr. WOLF - November 1963.
Mr. WEINER - It could have been before or after, I don't know.
Mr. WOLF - Where did you meet Mr. Trafficante?
Mr. WEINER - At the Fountainebleau Hotel.
Mr. WOLF Were you staying there ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - How long were you in Miami on that trip ?
Mr. WEINER - I had a legal matter in Miami.
Mr. WOLF - What was the legal matter?
Mr. WEINER - I was indicted in Miami Fla.
Mr. WOLF - What was the indictment for ?
Mr. WEINER - The indictment was for extortion.
Mr. WOLF - Why did you meet with Mr. Trafficante at that time?
Mr. WEINER - He was friendly with my associate who also was indicted.
Mr. WOLF - Who was your associate ?
Mr. WEINER - Felix Alderisio.
Mr. WOLF - What was discussed in the meeting with MR. Trafficante?
Mr. WEINER - I don't know. It was just about that time the only meeting I remember.
Mr. WOLF - Was there more than one meeting at that time ?
Mr. WEINER - lie would come to see my friend.
Mr. WOLF - How long were you in Miami during that trip ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't, know. I think we had a 10-day trial before a jury. I was in Washington, too. The attorneys came from Washington.
Mr. WOLF - Who else was present at your meetings with Mr. Trafficante besides yourself and Mr. Alderisio ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember.
Mr. WOLF - When you met Mr. Trafficante in Cuba who else was present at that meeting ?
Mr. WEINER - Nightclub full of people,.
Mr. WOLF - Did you speak to Mr. Trafficante at that time ?
Mr. WEINER - Did I ?
Mr. WOLF - Yes.
Mr. WEINER - Apparently I did.
Mr. WOLF - Was anybody else in on the conversation ?
Mr. WEINER - I never had anything to really discuss with Mr. Trafficante.
Mr. WOLF - How were you first introduced to Mr. Trafficante
Mr. WEINER - By Felix Alderisio.
Mr. WOLF - When was that ?
Mr. WEINER - At this time in Cuba.
Mr. WOLF - In 1959 ?
Mr. WEINER - 1959, 1960, yes.
Mr. WOLF - Did you ever have any interest in Cuban gambling
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever stated that for your services to Mr. Trafficante you were given an interest in a Cuban gambling casino? Did you ever state that?
Mr. WEINER I might have.
Mr. WOLF - If you stated that, is it your testimony that that is incorrect ?
Mr. WEINER - That is right.
Mr. WOLF - You never had any interest in any Cuban gambling casino ?
Mr. WEINER - Absolutely none.
Mr. WOLF - Did you state you lost a fortune in Cuba .?
Mr. WEINER - I might have.
Mr. WOLF - If you stated that, was that correct ?.
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Did you lose any money as a consequence of Fidel Castro's takeover ?
Mr. WEINER - Not one penny.
Mr. WOLF - Have you spoken to Mr. Trafficante over the telephone ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - When was your most recent contact with Mr. Trafficante ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't know. In the last year.
Mr. WOLF - What prompted that conversation ?
Mr. WEINER - Some kind of bail bond.
Mr. WOLF - He talked to you concerning a bail bond ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes. He thought he would need it and that was the end of it.
Mr. WOLF - Did Mr. Trafficante discuss with you his holdings in Cuba ?
Mr. WEINER - No; I never discussed anything personal with Mr. Trafficante.
Mr. WOLF - Did Mr. Trafficante during your meetings in 1963 ever discuss the political situation in the United States ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. John Roselli ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - You never heard of Roselli ?
Mr. WEINER - Sure, I have seen him too.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever spoken to him over the telephone ?.
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Did you know Mr. Sam Giancana?.
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - IIave you ever met with Mr. Giancana ?
Mr. WEINER - Sure.
Mr. WOLF - When did you first meet Mr. Giancana ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember.
Mr. WOLF - Approximately when ? 1940's, 1950's ?
Mr. WEINER - It could have been 1940 s.
Mr. WOLF - What were the circumstances of your first meeting that
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember ever meeting him for any particular---I just knew who he was.
Mr. WOLF - Who introduced you to Mr. Giancana ?
Mr. WEINER - It could have been Mr. Alderisio.
Mr. WOLF - Did you ever have business dealings with Mr. Alderisio ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - What were they ?
Mr. WEINER - We were partners in some real estate at one time. We were partners involved in a shortening corporation.
Mr. WOLF - What period of time were you involved with Mr. Alderisio?
Mr. WEINER - I have known Mr. Alderisio since I was 13 years old.
Mr. WOLF - What period of time were you partners with Mr. Alderisio in business ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't know. You mean the years in question ?
Mr. WOLF - Yes.
Mr. WEINER - I was partners with him in 1956 to 1960.
Mr. WOLF - What corporation were you partners in ?
Mr. WEINER - A corporation called Twin Food Products.
Mr. WOLF - Are there any other corporations you were partners in with Mr. Alderisio ?
Mr. WEINER - I am trying to think. We were involved in a real estate transaction. I don't remember any other companies being involved.
Mr. WOLF - Did you ever have any business dealings with Mr. Giancana ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Did Mr. Giancana ever ask you to obtain bonds for any of his associates ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't think so. No.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. James Fratianno ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever met with him ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - When did you meet with him ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember. The last time ? I don't remember.
Mr. WOLF - What meetings with him do you recall ?
Mr. WEINER - I am just trying to think. I met him in California.
Mr. WOLF - When was that ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember.
Mr. WOLF - Approximately when ?
Mr. WEINER - Ten years, fifteen years ago. I don't remember.
Mr. WOLF - What was your most recent meeting with him ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember that either. I don't remember when I met him.
Mr. WOLF - The only meeting with him you recall was in California ?
Mr. WEINER - I know I met him a few times. I met him in Las Vegas.
Mr. WOLF - How were you introduced to him ?
Mr. WEINER - Through Felix Alderisio who was a friend of his.
Mr. WOLF - Did you know him socially ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - Did you ever have any business dealings with him ?
Mr. WEINER - Never.
Mr. WOLF - Did he ever discuss Giancana and Mr. Roselli with you ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Norman Rothman ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't think so.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Joe Civello ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't think so.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever heard that name before ?
Mr. WEINER - Offhand, no.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Joseph Campisi ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever heard that name before ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't think so.
Mr. WOLF - What other business dealings have you had in Dallas aside from the ones you have told us about so far ?
Mr. WEINER - I am trying to think. I don't think I had any.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Jimmy Allegretti?
Mr. WEINER - Mr. who?
Mr. WOLF - Jimmy Allegretti?
Mr. WEINER - Yes; I knew him.
Mr. WOLF - He is a friend of yours you grew up with?
Mr. WEINER - I think I knew him all my life.
Mr. WOLF - Did you ever have any business dealings with him?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Angelo Bruno ?
Mr. WEINER - The name does not strike a responsive chord in me.
Mr. WOLF - Concerning your discussions with Mr. Shore and his obtaining legal representation for Jack Ruby was that discussion in Los Angeles or Chicago ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember.
Mr. WOLF - Was that discussion within 1 month, 2 months, or 3 months after Ruby shot Oswald ?
Mr. WEINER - The last discussion I bad with Mr. Shore was prior to my coming here. I told him why I was coming here. He reiterated that he had helped Earl Ruby obtain legal counsel or he was instrumental in helping him, whatever it was, or he knew the attorney. I don't remember. This was just 2 days ago, 3 days ago.
Mr. WOLF - You have no recollection of how soon after Ruby shot Oswald that discussion was ?
Mr. WEINER - No. It had to be after that happened. I met Mr. Shore and discussed it with him, keeping abreast of what had happened to him.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Phillip Bosco ?
Mr. WEINER - Who ?
Mr. WOLF - Phillip Boseo, B-o-s-e-o.
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - During 1970 did you ever meet Paul Roland Jones ?
Mr. WEINER - Paul who ?
Mr. WOLF - Roland Jones ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever heard that name before ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Paul Labriola ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes; I have heard that name.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Labriola ?
Mr. WEINER - I took him on bond.
Mr. WOLF - When was that ?
Mr. WEINER - It had to be in the 1940's.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever had any dealing with him subsequent to that time ?
Mr. WEINER - No; and I am not looking forward to having any dealings with him.
Mr. WOLF - But you have had no dealings with Mr. Labriola subsequent to the 1940's ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - What about Mr. James Weinberg ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - How do you know him ?
Mr. WEINER - Just took him out on bond.
Mr. WOLF - Was that the same time as Mr. Labriola ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember. They were always in trouble.
Mr. WOLF - Did anybody specifically that you recall refer you to them ?
Mr. WEINER - No. Somebody would have to refer them to me.
Mr. WOLF - When they first approached you--
Mr. WEINER - It could have been through an attorney.
Mr. WOLF - Are you familiar at all with a move in late 1940's from Chicago of individuals who were allegedly involved in organized crime ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Carlos Marcello ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever heard that name before ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever spoken with him
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever spoken with anybody who has stated he is a representative of Mr. Marcello ?
Mr. WEINER - Not that I know of.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever met with Jimmy Hoffa .?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - What were the circumstances of your first meeting.?
Mr. WEINER - Writing a bond for the Teamsters International under the Landrum-Griffin Act.
Mr. WOLF - When was that ?
Mr. WEINER - It would be around 1959.
Mr. WOLF - Who else was present at that meeting ?
Mr. WEINER - Probably Allen Doffman.
Mr. WOLF - Who introduced you to Mr. Hoffa ?
Mr. WEINER - Allen Dorfman.
Mr. WOLF - Allen Dorfman introduced you to Jimmy
Mr. WEINER - Right.
Mr. WOLF - What was the outcome of that meeting? Did your company in fact write a bond ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - What corporation was that ?.
Mr. WEINER - What corporation did write the bond ?
Mr. WOLF - Yes. What corporation were you affiliated with at that time ?
Mr. WEINER - We started out with the Illinois. Then I took the business over, myself.
Mr. WOLF - You incorporated your own agency
Mr. WEINER - I think I formed another agency called Titan Management Corp.
Mr. WOLF - Did that management corporation take over all the Teamster pension bonding at that time ?
Mr. WEINER - I received the commissions as a result of writing that bond in that agency.
Mr. WOLF - Approximately how much did you receive in commissions ?
Mr. WEINER - A couple hundred thousand dollars I guess.
Mr. WOLF - Was that for the year 1959 ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember. It was for the placement of that bond, the period that I had anything to do with it.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Paul Dorfman?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - How long have you known Paul Doffman?
Mr. WEINER - Since I was a little boy.
Mr. WOLF - Did Paul Dorfman ever discuss his relationship with Jack Ruby ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Subsequent to Ruby shooting Oswald, did Paul Dorfman ever discuss Jack Ruby with you ?
Mr. WEINER - No, never.
Mr. WOLF - You never discussed your phone call with Jack Ruby with Paul Dorfman ?
Mr. WEINER - Not that I remember.
Mr. WOLF - Did you ever have business lunches with Paul Dorfman
Mr. WEINER - I met his son Allen through Paul.
Mr. WOLF - Are you familiar with the Waste Handling Union Chicago ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Did you know Paul Dorfman was president of that union in late 1940's ?
Mr. WEINER - Could have been. I don't remember.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Dave Yaras ?
Mr. WEINER - I know him, yes.
Mr. WOLF - How do you know Mr. Yaras ?
Mr. WEINER - I have known him all my life. I have known him since I was a boy.
Mr. WOLF - Is he a personal friend of yours ?
Mr. WEINER - I was friendly with him. I knew him.
Mr. WOLF - Did you have anything to do with Mr. Yaras .?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Did you see Mr. Yaras when you were in Miami during your indictment?
Mr. WEINER - I don't think so.
Mr. WOLF - Did you see Mr. Yaras in Miami at any other time
Mr. WEINER - Probably.
Mr. WOLF - Who did you meet with in conjunction with Mr. Yaras in Miami ?
Mr. WEINER - It was an attorney friend of mine who has since passed away, Mr. Brodkin.
Mr. WOLF - What was the occasion of that meeting?
Mr. WEINER - My wife and he and his wife went to Florida. Mr. Yaras lived in Florida and we went out to dinner together.
Mr. WOLF - At what time in Florida ?
Mr. WEINER - That would be in the early fifties, mid-fifties.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Lennie Patrick ?.
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - How do you know Mr. Patrick?
Mr. WEINER - I know him the same way, in the same neighborhood, since I was a kid.
Mr. WOLF - Did you ever have any business dealings with Mr. Patrick ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - How often did you meet with Mr. Patrick ?
Mr. WEINER - I met with Mr. Patrick, it would be accidentally.
Mr. WOLF - Frequently ? Not frequently ? Once a year ?
Mr. WEINER - I never met with him. I never had a planned meeting with him. It would be just like running into him at a restaurant.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know if Mr. Jack Ruby knew Mr. Patrick
Mr. WEINER - I have no idea.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Barney Baker?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - Did Mr. Dorfman introduce you to Mr. Baker?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember who introduced me to him. I think Paul Dorfman introduced me to Mr. Baker.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Nofio Pecora ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - In your discussions with Mr. Trafficante did he ever discuss with you the CIA plots against Fidel Castro ?.
Mr. WEINER - I never had any discussions with Mr. Trafficante other than how are you and things of that sort. Never got involved with him in any way.
Mr. WOLF - Did he ever discuss with you these plots ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Did Mr. Giancana ever discuss the plots with you ?
Mr. WEINER - Absolutely not.
Mr. DODD - Did Mr. Shore at any time ever discuss with you any phone conversation he had had with Jack Ruby around the same time that you received your phone call ?
Mr. WEINER - As far as I understood, Mr. Shore didn't know Jack Ruby.
Mr. DODD - So at no time at all has Mr. Shore ever said. anything to you about any phone conversation or phone call he ever received from Jack Ruby ?
Mr. WEINER - Right. He never said anything about that to me.
Mr. DODD - Mr. Weiner, I am going to state to you as a matter of fact that on October 25, 1963, at 10:09 a.m. in the morning Jack Ruby called Mike Shore at a New York City hotel and talked to him for 18 minutes. On October 26 at 10:17 in the morning Jack Ruby called Mike Shore in Los Angeles. On October 30, 1963, Jack Ruby sent Mike Shore a special delivery letter. On October 30, 1963, Jack Ruby called Mike Shore and spoke to him. On October 31, Jack Ruby. called Mike Shore and spoke to him again. Has Mr. Shore ever at any time at all told you of his conversations with Jack Ruby?
Mr. WEINER I will tell you again, absolutely not.
Mr. DODD - I have no further questions, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. WOLF - What is your current residence.?
Mr. WEINER - My residence?.
Mr. WOLF - Yes.
Mr. WEINER - 7163 Carol Court, Niles,, Ill.
Mr. WOLF - That is your residence address?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - What is your current business address ?
Mr. WEINER. 1010 South State Street,, Chicago, Ill.
Mr. WOLF - Are you affiliated with a firm ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - What is the name?
Mr. WEINER. American Bonding Agency.
Mr. WOLF - In what capacity are you affiliated with that firm?
Mr. WEINER - I am president.
Mr. WOLF - Mr. Weiner, the first area of questions will concern your relationship with Jack Ruby. For the committee members this is listed on tab 2 of the briefing book. When was the first time you met Jack Ruby, Mr. Weiner.?
Mr. WEINER - I don't know. I don't remember. I went to school with his brother, Earl. Jack was a little older than I was. I might have met Jack Ruby four or five times in my life.
Mr. WOLF - Did you meet him prior to 1960 which was the election of President Kennedy ?
Mr. WEINER - Oh, yes.
Mr. WOLF - Did you meet him prior to 1950?
Mr. WEINER - It could have been.
Mr. WOLF - Do you recall--
Mr. WEINER - I would say I met him probably in the 1930's.
Mr. WOLF - What were the circumstances of your first meeting?
Mr. WEINER - It was An older brother of a friend of mine, not even a good friend. Somebody I knew.
Mr. WOLF - You are speaking of Earl ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - You met Earl in high school ?.
Mr. WEINER - Right.
Mr. WOLF - Were you friendly with Earl ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - Did you meet other members of the Ruby family ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't think I did.
Mr. WOLF - Were you ever to the Ruby house ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't believe I was.
Mr. WOLF - All your contacts with Jack Ruby were during the 1930's?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - When were your other contacts with Jack Ruby?
Mr. WEINER - He called me up one time.
Mr. WOLF - When was that?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember. It was in the sixties, prior to the assassination of the President.
Mr. WOLF - How much prior to the assassination ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't have any idea.
Mr. WOLF - You do recollect that call ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes. I recollect that call because I have had a lot of problems because of that call.
Mr. WOLF - Was that call on October 26, 1963 ?
Mr. WEINER - It could have been.
Mr. WOLF - One month prior to the assassination ?
Mr. WEINER - It could have been.
Mr. WOLF - At what time previous to that call do you recollect seeing Jack Ruby ?
Mr. WEINER - Maybe 10 or 15 years prior to that.
Mr. WOLF - Ten or fifteen years prior to the call ?
Mr. WEINER - Correct.
Mr. WOLF - What was discussed during that phone call ?
Mr. WEINER - Jack Ruby called me. Evidently he had a nightclub in Dallas, Tex. He had a striptease night, one night a week he had an amateur striptease. Some union that was affiliated with entertainers had stopped him. They asked him to stop because the amateur entertainers were not members of the union. He stopped and another competitor of his opened up. He called me and wanted to know if I would write a bond. He was looking to get an injunction. The lawyer told him if he got an injunction he would have to put up a bond. He asked me if I would do that and I told him no. Then he told me he was going to file a lawsuit. That was the extent of our conversation. It was just in relation to that. I never heard from him since and I have never heard from him prior to that.
Mr. WOLF - You had no contact with him prior to that time ?
Mr. WEINER - Absolutely no.
Mr. WOLF - How did Jack Ruby come to call you ?
Mr. WEINER - Through his brother. That was my business, writing bonds. I don't have any idea.
Mr. WOLF - Why did you refuse to write the bond that. he requested ?
Mr. WEINER - I didn't have the authority to write it.
Mr. WOLF - Did you direct him to somebody who did ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Your testimony was that was the business you were in at that time ?
Mr. WEINER - I still am.
Mr. WOLF - Why do you say you had no authority to write a bond ?
Mr. WEINER - If I remember correctly I don't think the company was authorized to do business in Texas. I just didn't want to get involved in it. There was no way I could do it.
Mr. WOLF - What was the amount of the bond that Jack Ruby was seeking ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember that. When he started talking to me all I did was look to get rid of him. I didn't want to have anything with it. I was just being courteous.
Mr. WOLF - You had no contacts for 15 years previous to that call with Jack Ruby ?
Mr. WEINER - I never had contact with Jack Ruby, never socially. Never went with him anywhere, never broke bread with him, never had anything to do with Jack Ruby at any time in my life.
Mr. WOLF - What was the contact 15 years prior to that phone call with Jack Ruby ?
Mr. WEINER How the hell do I know.
Mr. WOLF - You testified
Mr. WEINER - I am just guessing. It could have been 30 years before. I don't remember.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Michael Shore ?
Mr. WEINER - I sure do.
Mr. WOLF - How do you know Mr. Shore ?
Mr. WEINER - I know Mr. Shore all my life, a boyhood friend of mine. Still is.
Mr. WOLF - Do you have business with Mr. Shore ?
Mr. WEINER - Right now I have.
Mr. WOLF - During the period of time 1960-63 did you have business with Mr. Shore ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't think so.
Mr. WOLF - What is your business with Mr. Shore ?
Mr. WEINER - Bringing products in from Japan.
Mr. WOLF - Mr. Shore is a close friend of yours ?.
Mr. WEINER - Very close friend of mine.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever discussed with Mr. Shore the Jack Ruby phone call to yourself?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Has Mr. Shore ever discussed with you Jack Ruby ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - What has he told you ?
Mr. WEINER - He said that he arranged with Earl to try to get him some legal help in--there was an attorney in San Francisco that I think Michael Shore knew and Earl wanted to hire him, I forget his name.
Mr. WOLF - Did Mr. Shore indicate anything else to you about Jack Ruby?.
Mr. WEINER - That is about it.
Mr. WOLF - Concerning the phone call you received from Mike Shore regarding getting an attorney for Jack Ruby--
Mr. WEINER - I didn't receive the phone call. I spoke to him in person.
Mr. WOLF - Where was that?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember. It is a long time ago.
Mr. WOLF - When was that ?
Mr. WEINER - When ?
Mr. WOLF - Approximately how long after Ruby shot Oswald was it ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't know. The next time I saw him--in those years I would see him on trips in California or if he came to Chicago. I don't remember when or how it was. It was just conversation.
Mr. WOLF - Did he ask you for any suggestions regarding representation of Jack Ruby-?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Mr. Weiner, have you ever been to Cuba ?.
Mr. WEINER - Have I been to Cuba ?
Mr. WOLF - Yes.
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - When were you in Cuba ?
Mr. WEINER - In 1958 or 1959.
Mr. WOLF - Was that one trip you are referring to ?
Mr. WEINER - I made a few trips there.
Mr. WOLF - What was the purpose of your trips to Cuba ?
Mr. WEINER - One or two just for pleasure. Another trip I made was--I guess they were all pleasure.
Mr. WOLF - You have never been to Cuba on a business trip ?
Mr. WEINER - Not that I remember.
Mr. WOLF - About how many times did you go to Cuba for pleasure ?
Mr. WEINER - Maybe three or four.
Mr. WOLF - Were those all during the 1959, 1959 period ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - Were you ever in Cuba after Fidel Castro took over, which was January 1, 1959 ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - When you were in Cuba who did you visit ?
Mr. WEINER - Whom did I visit ? There was a friend of mine that worked in one of the casinos there, his name was Sam off. I visited him.
Mr. WOLF - Did you go by yourself or with other individuals ?
Mr. WEINER - I went with somebody else.
Mr. WOLF - Who else did you go with ?
Mr. WEINER - A fellow by the name of Felix Alderisio.
Mr. WOLF - Was he traveling for pleasure ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes. As far as I know he was.
Mr. WOLF - On how many of your trips did you accompany Mr. Alderisio ?
Mr. WEINER - I think all of them. I am not sure. It has been a long time ago.
Mr. WOLF - At what hotels did you stay at when you visited Cuba ?
Mr. WEINER - The Nacionale. I don't remember the other names.
Mr. WOLF - Do you recall traveling to Cuba with Allen Dorfman ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - Was he on all of your trips ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes; he was.
Mr. WOLF - He was on all of your trips ?
Mr. WEINER - No; he was on one trip.
Mr. WOLF - Which trip was that ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember but there were four of us on that trip.
Mr. WEINER - No; I didn't.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Santos Trafficante
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - Have you met Mr. Trafficante ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - When were your meetings with Mr. Trafficante?
Mr. WEINER - I met him at a club in Cuba.
Mr. WOLF - What club was that ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember the name of the club. It was an outdoor casnio and nightclub.
Mr. WOLF - Do you remember what trip to Cuba this was on that you met Mr. Trafficante ?
Mr. WEINER - No; I don't.
Mr. WOLF - What other meetings did you have with Mr. Trafficante ?
Mr. WEINER - I met him in Florida.
Mr. WOLF - When was that ?
Mr. WEINER - About 1963.
Mr. WOLF - Was that prior to or subsequent to the assassination of President Kennedy ?
Mr. WEINER - Prior.
Mr. WOLF - How much prior was it ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't know.
Mr. WOLF - How do you recollect it was prior to the assassination
Mr. WEINER - Well, I am just guessing. When was the assassination ?
Mr. WOLF - November 1963.
Mr. WEINER - It could have been before or after, I don't know.
Mr. WOLF - Where did you meet Mr. Trafficante?
Mr. WEINER - At the Fountainebleau Hotel.
Mr. WOLF Were you staying there ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - How long were you in Miami on that trip ?
Mr. WEINER - I had a legal matter in Miami.
Mr. WOLF - What was the legal matter?
Mr. WEINER - I was indicted in Miami Fla.
Mr. WOLF - What was the indictment for ?
Mr. WEINER - The indictment was for extortion.
Mr. WOLF - Why did you meet with Mr. Trafficante at that time?
Mr. WEINER - He was friendly with my associate who also was indicted.
Mr. WOLF - Who was your associate ?
Mr. WEINER - Felix Alderisio.
Mr. WOLF - What was discussed in the meeting with MR. Trafficante?
Mr. WEINER - I don't know. It was just about that time the only meeting I remember.
Mr. WOLF - Was there more than one meeting at that time ?
Mr. WEINER - lie would come to see my friend.
Mr. WOLF - How long were you in Miami during that trip ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't, know. I think we had a 10-day trial before a jury. I was in Washington, too. The attorneys came from Washington.
Mr. WOLF - Who else was present at your meetings with Mr. Trafficante besides yourself and Mr. Alderisio ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember.
Mr. WOLF - When you met Mr. Trafficante in Cuba who else was present at that meeting ?
Mr. WEINER - Nightclub full of people,.
Mr. WOLF - Did you speak to Mr. Trafficante at that time ?
Mr. WEINER - Did I ?
Mr. WOLF - Yes.
Mr. WEINER - Apparently I did.
Mr. WOLF - Was anybody else in on the conversation ?
Mr. WEINER - I never had anything to really discuss with Mr. Trafficante.
Mr. WOLF - How were you first introduced to Mr. Trafficante
Mr. WEINER - By Felix Alderisio.
Mr. WOLF - When was that ?
Mr. WEINER - At this time in Cuba.
Mr. WOLF - In 1959 ?
Mr. WEINER - 1959, 1960, yes.
Mr. WOLF - Did you ever have any interest in Cuban gambling
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever stated that for your services to Mr. Trafficante you were given an interest in a Cuban gambling casino? Did you ever state that?
Mr. WEINER I might have.
Mr. WOLF - If you stated that, is it your testimony that that is incorrect ?
Mr. WEINER - That is right.
Mr. WOLF - You never had any interest in any Cuban gambling casino ?
Mr. WEINER - Absolutely none.
Mr. WOLF - Did you state you lost a fortune in Cuba .?
Mr. WEINER - I might have.
Mr. WOLF - If you stated that, was that correct ?.
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Did you lose any money as a consequence of Fidel Castro's takeover ?
Mr. WEINER - Not one penny.
Mr. WOLF - Have you spoken to Mr. Trafficante over the telephone ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - When was your most recent contact with Mr. Trafficante ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't know. In the last year.
Mr. WOLF - What prompted that conversation ?
Mr. WEINER - Some kind of bail bond.
Mr. WOLF - He talked to you concerning a bail bond ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes. He thought he would need it and that was the end of it.
Mr. WOLF - Did Mr. Trafficante discuss with you his holdings in Cuba ?
Mr. WEINER - No; I never discussed anything personal with Mr. Trafficante.
Mr. WOLF - Did Mr. Trafficante during your meetings in 1963 ever discuss the political situation in the United States ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. John Roselli ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - You never heard of Roselli ?
Mr. WEINER - Sure, I have seen him too.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever spoken to him over the telephone ?.
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Did you know Mr. Sam Giancana?.
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - IIave you ever met with Mr. Giancana ?
Mr. WEINER - Sure.
Mr. WOLF - When did you first meet Mr. Giancana ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember.
Mr. WOLF - Approximately when ? 1940's, 1950's ?
Mr. WEINER - It could have been 1940 s.
Mr. WOLF - What were the circumstances of your first meeting that
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember ever meeting him for any particular---I just knew who he was.
Mr. WOLF - Who introduced you to Mr. Giancana ?
Mr. WEINER - It could have been Mr. Alderisio.
Mr. WOLF - Did you ever have business dealings with Mr. Alderisio ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - What were they ?
Mr. WEINER - We were partners in some real estate at one time. We were partners involved in a shortening corporation.
Mr. WOLF - What period of time were you involved with Mr. Alderisio?
Mr. WEINER - I have known Mr. Alderisio since I was 13 years old.
Mr. WOLF - What period of time were you partners with Mr. Alderisio in business ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't know. You mean the years in question ?
Mr. WOLF - Yes.
Mr. WEINER - I was partners with him in 1956 to 1960.
Mr. WOLF - What corporation were you partners in ?
Mr. WEINER - A corporation called Twin Food Products.
Mr. WOLF - Are there any other corporations you were partners in with Mr. Alderisio ?
Mr. WEINER - I am trying to think. We were involved in a real estate transaction. I don't remember any other companies being involved.
Mr. WOLF - Did you ever have any business dealings with Mr. Giancana ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Did Mr. Giancana ever ask you to obtain bonds for any of his associates ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't think so. No.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. James Fratianno ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever met with him ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - When did you meet with him ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember. The last time ? I don't remember.
Mr. WOLF - What meetings with him do you recall ?
Mr. WEINER - I am just trying to think. I met him in California.
Mr. WOLF - When was that ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember.
Mr. WOLF - Approximately when ?
Mr. WEINER - Ten years, fifteen years ago. I don't remember.
Mr. WOLF - What was your most recent meeting with him ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember that either. I don't remember when I met him.
Mr. WOLF - The only meeting with him you recall was in California ?
Mr. WEINER - I know I met him a few times. I met him in Las Vegas.
Mr. WOLF - How were you introduced to him ?
Mr. WEINER - Through Felix Alderisio who was a friend of his.
Mr. WOLF - Did you know him socially ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - Did you ever have any business dealings with him ?
Mr. WEINER - Never.
Mr. WOLF - Did he ever discuss Giancana and Mr. Roselli with you ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Norman Rothman ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't think so.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Joe Civello ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't think so.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever heard that name before ?
Mr. WEINER - Offhand, no.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Joseph Campisi ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever heard that name before ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't think so.
Mr. WOLF - What other business dealings have you had in Dallas aside from the ones you have told us about so far ?
Mr. WEINER - I am trying to think. I don't think I had any.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Jimmy Allegretti?
Mr. WEINER - Mr. who?
Mr. WOLF - Jimmy Allegretti?
Mr. WEINER - Yes; I knew him.
Mr. WOLF - He is a friend of yours you grew up with?
Mr. WEINER - I think I knew him all my life.
Mr. WOLF - Did you ever have any business dealings with him?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Angelo Bruno ?
Mr. WEINER - The name does not strike a responsive chord in me.
Mr. WOLF - Concerning your discussions with Mr. Shore and his obtaining legal representation for Jack Ruby was that discussion in Los Angeles or Chicago ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember.
Mr. WOLF - Was that discussion within 1 month, 2 months, or 3 months after Ruby shot Oswald ?
Mr. WEINER - The last discussion I bad with Mr. Shore was prior to my coming here. I told him why I was coming here. He reiterated that he had helped Earl Ruby obtain legal counsel or he was instrumental in helping him, whatever it was, or he knew the attorney. I don't remember. This was just 2 days ago, 3 days ago.
Mr. WOLF - You have no recollection of how soon after Ruby shot Oswald that discussion was ?
Mr. WEINER - No. It had to be after that happened. I met Mr. Shore and discussed it with him, keeping abreast of what had happened to him.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Phillip Bosco ?
Mr. WEINER - Who ?
Mr. WOLF - Phillip Boseo, B-o-s-e-o.
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - During 1970 did you ever meet Paul Roland Jones ?
Mr. WEINER - Paul who ?
Mr. WOLF - Roland Jones ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever heard that name before ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Paul Labriola ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes; I have heard that name.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Labriola ?
Mr. WEINER - I took him on bond.
Mr. WOLF - When was that ?
Mr. WEINER - It had to be in the 1940's.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever had any dealing with him subsequent to that time ?
Mr. WEINER - No; and I am not looking forward to having any dealings with him.
Mr. WOLF - But you have had no dealings with Mr. Labriola subsequent to the 1940's ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - What about Mr. James Weinberg ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - How do you know him ?
Mr. WEINER - Just took him out on bond.
Mr. WOLF - Was that the same time as Mr. Labriola ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember. They were always in trouble.
Mr. WOLF - Did anybody specifically that you recall refer you to them ?
Mr. WEINER - No. Somebody would have to refer them to me.
Mr. WOLF - When they first approached you--
Mr. WEINER - It could have been through an attorney.
Mr. WOLF - Are you familiar at all with a move in late 1940's from Chicago of individuals who were allegedly involved in organized crime ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Carlos Marcello ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever heard that name before ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever spoken with him
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever spoken with anybody who has stated he is a representative of Mr. Marcello ?
Mr. WEINER - Not that I know of.
Mr. WOLF - Have you ever met with Jimmy Hoffa .?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - What were the circumstances of your first meeting.?
Mr. WEINER - Writing a bond for the Teamsters International under the Landrum-Griffin Act.
Mr. WOLF - When was that ?
Mr. WEINER - It would be around 1959.
Mr. WOLF - Who else was present at that meeting ?
Mr. WEINER - Probably Allen Doffman.
Mr. WOLF - Who introduced you to Mr. Hoffa ?
Mr. WEINER - Allen Dorfman.
Mr. WOLF - Allen Dorfman introduced you to Jimmy
Mr. WEINER - Right.
Mr. WOLF - What was the outcome of that meeting? Did your company in fact write a bond ?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - What corporation was that ?.
Mr. WEINER - What corporation did write the bond ?
Mr. WOLF - Yes. What corporation were you affiliated with at that time ?
Mr. WEINER - We started out with the Illinois. Then I took the business over, myself.
Mr. WOLF - You incorporated your own agency
Mr. WEINER - I think I formed another agency called Titan Management Corp.
Mr. WOLF - Did that management corporation take over all the Teamster pension bonding at that time ?
Mr. WEINER - I received the commissions as a result of writing that bond in that agency.
Mr. WOLF - Approximately how much did you receive in commissions ?
Mr. WEINER - A couple hundred thousand dollars I guess.
Mr. WOLF - Was that for the year 1959 ?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember. It was for the placement of that bond, the period that I had anything to do with it.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Paul Dorfman?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - How long have you known Paul Doffman?
Mr. WEINER - Since I was a little boy.
Mr. WOLF - Did Paul Dorfman ever discuss his relationship with Jack Ruby ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Subsequent to Ruby shooting Oswald, did Paul Dorfman ever discuss Jack Ruby with you ?
Mr. WEINER - No, never.
Mr. WOLF - You never discussed your phone call with Jack Ruby with Paul Dorfman ?
Mr. WEINER - Not that I remember.
Mr. WOLF - Did you ever have business lunches with Paul Dorfman
Mr. WEINER - I met his son Allen through Paul.
Mr. WOLF - Are you familiar with the Waste Handling Union Chicago ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Did you know Paul Dorfman was president of that union in late 1940's ?
Mr. WEINER - Could have been. I don't remember.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Dave Yaras ?
Mr. WEINER - I know him, yes.
Mr. WOLF - How do you know Mr. Yaras ?
Mr. WEINER - I have known him all my life. I have known him since I was a boy.
Mr. WOLF - Is he a personal friend of yours ?
Mr. WEINER - I was friendly with him. I knew him.
Mr. WOLF - Did you have anything to do with Mr. Yaras .?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Did you see Mr. Yaras when you were in Miami during your indictment?
Mr. WEINER - I don't think so.
Mr. WOLF - Did you see Mr. Yaras in Miami at any other time
Mr. WEINER - Probably.
Mr. WOLF - Who did you meet with in conjunction with Mr. Yaras in Miami ?
Mr. WEINER - It was an attorney friend of mine who has since passed away, Mr. Brodkin.
Mr. WOLF - What was the occasion of that meeting?
Mr. WEINER - My wife and he and his wife went to Florida. Mr. Yaras lived in Florida and we went out to dinner together.
Mr. WOLF - At what time in Florida ?
Mr. WEINER - That would be in the early fifties, mid-fifties.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Lennie Patrick ?.
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - How do you know Mr. Patrick?
Mr. WEINER - I know him the same way, in the same neighborhood, since I was a kid.
Mr. WOLF - Did you ever have any business dealings with Mr. Patrick ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - How often did you meet with Mr. Patrick ?
Mr. WEINER - I met with Mr. Patrick, it would be accidentally.
Mr. WOLF - Frequently ? Not frequently ? Once a year ?
Mr. WEINER - I never met with him. I never had a planned meeting with him. It would be just like running into him at a restaurant.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know if Mr. Jack Ruby knew Mr. Patrick
Mr. WEINER - I have no idea.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Barney Baker?
Mr. WEINER - Yes.
Mr. WOLF - Did Mr. Dorfman introduce you to Mr. Baker?
Mr. WEINER - I don't remember who introduced me to him. I think Paul Dorfman introduced me to Mr. Baker.
Mr. WOLF - Do you know Mr. Nofio Pecora ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - In your discussions with Mr. Trafficante did he ever discuss with you the CIA plots against Fidel Castro ?.
Mr. WEINER - I never had any discussions with Mr. Trafficante other than how are you and things of that sort. Never got involved with him in any way.
Mr. WOLF - Did he ever discuss with you these plots ?
Mr. WEINER - No.
Mr. WOLF - Did Mr. Giancana ever discuss the plots with you ?
Mr. WEINER - Absolutely not.
Mr. DODD - Did Mr. Shore at any time ever discuss with you any phone conversation he had had with Jack Ruby around the same time that you received your phone call ?
Mr. WEINER - As far as I understood, Mr. Shore didn't know Jack Ruby.
Mr. DODD - So at no time at all has Mr. Shore ever said. anything to you about any phone conversation or phone call he ever received from Jack Ruby ?
Mr. WEINER - Right. He never said anything about that to me.
Mr. DODD - Mr. Weiner, I am going to state to you as a matter of fact that on October 25, 1963, at 10:09 a.m. in the morning Jack Ruby called Mike Shore at a New York City hotel and talked to him for 18 minutes. On October 26 at 10:17 in the morning Jack Ruby called Mike Shore in Los Angeles. On October 30, 1963, Jack Ruby sent Mike Shore a special delivery letter. On October 30, 1963, Jack Ruby called Mike Shore and spoke to him. On October 31, Jack Ruby. called Mike Shore and spoke to him again. Has Mr. Shore ever at any time at all told you of his conversations with Jack Ruby?
Mr. WEINER I will tell you again, absolutely not.
Mr. DODD - I have no further questions, Mr. Chairman.
Do not be deceived, neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God - Corinthians 6:9-10