Colombo family boss, 11 others busted in NYC mob sweep: feds

[JohnnyS]

When did Teddy Jr get out?

I think it was around January of last year.

[chin_gigante]

In his book on the Colombo family, Andy Petepiece also had Russo briefly as the acting boss from 1984 to 1985 before Anthony Scarpati. However, it should be noted some of Petepiece's other information in that book is incorrect (e.g., he has Tom DiBella as acting rather than official).

[JohnnyS]

I wonder who’s going to take over for Mush, Benny, etc. where’s Gohn?

If I was to bet on somebody it would be Joe Waverly since Capeci reported last year that it was Teddy Persico jr or Joe Waverly that was next in line to take over as boss. Another possibility could be former street boss Sally Bread Cambria.

[Nick Prango]

Colombos were NEVER weak or finished they were weak compared to the Genevese and Gambinos.This proves they are still powerful for in this day and age them still being involved in Union scams.Do you guys think any other crime group other than LCN is involved in this kind of crime.The Mexican Mafia in LA has cartel connection and huge mexican demographics and the best they could do is tax local gangmembers

The Mexican mafia and other ethnic criminal organizations and gangs are mostly confined to their communities. They don't really venture out of their ethnic communities. You can't compare them with LCN.

Yes but demographically, Italian Americans have very much moved from the working to middle classes. Therefore recruitment becomes a much harder sell to the next generation. The Hispanic (for want of a better catch-all descriptor) gangs, don't have that and therefore have a much bigger recruitment pool.

Like realistically, who are the next generation of members for the Colombos? Are there 20 'kids' aged between 18-30 interested in it?

Hispanic criminal organisations have a much bigger recruitment pool, but they are not at the level of the Italian crime families. Hispanic crime groups and gangs are not involved in union racketeering, healthcare frauds and construction. LCN is a far more sophisticated organization than MS13, Latin Kings,18th Street gang , Dominicans Don't Play,The Trinitarios etc which are essentially loose knit collections of small street gangs. A street gang, as the definition implies, runs the street. They have guns, but they're local. Quite terrifying, but nothing compared to the LCN. The American Mafia(even today) has far greater power.

According to John Pennisi all 5 families still have plenty of young associates in New York and New Jersey.

[Pmac2]

Any one heard of the capo Richard ferrera? wat was his involvement

[Shellackhead]

Colombos were NEVER weak or finished they were weak compared to the Genevese and Gambinos.This proves they are still powerful for in this day and age them still being involved in Union scams.Do you guys think any other crime group other than LCN is involved in this kind of crime.The Mexican Mafia in LA has cartel connection and huge mexican demographics and the best they could do is tax local gangmembers

The Mexican mafia and other ethnic criminal organizations and gangs are mostly confined to their communities. They don't really venture out of their ethnic communities. You can't compare them with LCN.

Yes but demographically, Italian Americans have very much moved from the working to middle classes. Therefore recruitment becomes a much harder sell to the next generation. The Hispanic (for want of a better catch-all descriptor) gangs, don't have that and therefore have a much bigger recruitment pool.

Like realistically, who are the next generation of members for the Colombos? Are there 20 'kids' aged between 18-30 interested in it?

Hispanic criminal organisations have a much bigger recruitment pool, but they are not at the level of the Italian crime families. Hispanic crime groups and gangs are not involved in union racketeering, healthcare frauds and construction. LCN is a far more sophisticated organization than MS13, Latin Kings,18th Street gang , Dominicans Don't Play,The Trinitarios etc which are essentially loose knit collections of small street gangs. A street gang, as the definition implies, runs the street. They have guns, but they're local. Quite terrifying, but nothing compared to the LCN. The American Mafia(even today) has far greater power.

According to John Pennisi all 5 families still have plenty of young associates in New York and New Jersey.

Popote 157.

[Shellackhead]

I wonder who’s going to take over for Mush, Benny, etc. where’s Gohn?

If I was to bet on somebody it would be Joe Waverly since Capeci reported last year that it was Teddy Persico jr or Joe Waverly that was next in line to take over as boss. Another possibility could be former street boss Sally Bread Cambria.

Ah alright thanks. If I was Joe I wouldn’t take the spot at that age, I would want to die peacefully

[AntComello]

Also Colombo soldier Vinny Posa got popped in July along with a few other lower level Colombo guys selling large amounts of 30’s and coke. So this family has definitely been very active and making a lot of money. I think it said try got caught with like 2600 real 30’s. And a bunch of coke

[Newyorkempire]

Colombos were NEVER weak or finished they were weak compared to the Genevese and Gambinos.This proves they are still powerful for in this day and age them still being involved in Union scams.Do you guys think any other crime group other than LCN is involved in this kind of crime.The Mexican Mafia in LA has cartel connection and huge mexican demographics and the best they could do is tax local gangmembers

The Mexican mafia and other ethnic criminal organizations and gangs are mostly confined to their communities. They don't really venture out of their ethnic communities. You can't compare them with LCN.

Yes but demographically, Italian Americans have very much moved from the working to middle classes. Therefore recruitment becomes a much harder sell to the next generation. The Hispanic (for want of a better catch-all descriptor) gangs, don't have that and therefore have a much bigger recruitment pool.

Like realistically, who are the next generation of members for the Colombos? Are there 20 'kids' aged between 18-30 interested in it?

Ofcourse there are. Way more 20 of them

[Newyorkempire]

Street Boss Andrew Russo indicted
Underboss Benjamin Castellazo indicted
Consigliere Ralph Dimmatteo indicted

Captains Teddy Persico Jr, Richard Ferrara and Vincent Ricciardo indicted

Solider Michael Uvino and associates Thomas Costa and Dominick Ricciardo indicted

If we take this at face value it's interesting that the consigliere and two captains we didn't even have listed as members on the Colombo thread in the charts section. So do we know if Ralph Dimatteo is related to the other Dimatteos? Also, kinda thought if Russo went down and a bunch of captains went down that William Russo would have gotten pulled into this.

Confirms further posters who create charts dont know every families membership to a tee and new guys are always coming and going. If a family has top guys who want it to exist theyll recruit without anyone knowing until they get investigated or indicted

[JohnnyS]

Btw, Pennisi confirmed Ralph is the younger brother of Luca. He described him as a low key guy.

[Snakes]

Street Boss Andrew Russo indicted
Underboss Benjamin Castellazo indicted
Consigliere Ralph Dimmatteo indicted

Captains Teddy Persico Jr, Richard Ferrara and Vincent Ricciardo indicted

Solider Michael Uvino and associates Thomas Costa and Dominick Ricciardo indicted

If we take this at face value it's interesting that the consigliere and two captains we didn't even have listed as members on the Colombo thread in the charts section. So do we know if Ralph Dimatteo is related to the other Dimatteos? Also, kinda thought if Russo went down and a bunch of captains went down that William Russo would have gotten pulled into this.

Confirms further posters who create charts dont know every families membership to a tee and new guys are always coming and going. If a family has top guys who want it to exist theyll recruit without anyone knowing until they get investigated or indicted

I don't think anyone has ever claimed that they *do* know everyone. The charts are being constantly changed when new information is revealed.

[Newyorkempire]

Street Boss Andrew Russo indicted
Underboss Benjamin Castellazo indicted
Consigliere Ralph Dimmatteo indicted

Captains Teddy Persico Jr, Richard Ferrara and Vincent Ricciardo indicted

Solider Michael Uvino and associates Thomas Costa and Dominick Ricciardo indicted

If we take this at face value it's interesting that the consigliere and two captains we didn't even have listed as members on the Colombo thread in the charts section. So do we know if Ralph Dimatteo is related to the other Dimatteos? Also, kinda thought if Russo went down and a bunch of captains went down that William Russo would have gotten pulled into this.

Confirms further posters who create charts dont know every families membership to a tee and new guys are always coming and going. If a family has top guys who want it to exist theyll recruit without anyone knowing until they get investigated or indicted

I don't think anyone has ever claimed that they *do* know everyone. The charts are being constantly changed when new information is revealed.

Right and the information is never fully known, therefore claims of families dying, strength of family or members of family is never fully known

[Etna]

Street Boss Andrew Russo indicted
Underboss Benjamin Castellazo indicted
Consigliere Ralph Dimmatteo indicted

Captains Teddy Persico Jr, Richard Ferrara and Vincent Ricciardo indicted

Solider Michael Uvino and associates Thomas Costa and Dominick Ricciardo indicted

If we take this at face value it's interesting that the consigliere and two captains we didn't even have listed as members on the Colombo thread in the charts section. So do we know if Ralph Dimatteo is related to the other Dimatteos? Also, kinda thought if Russo went down and a bunch of captains went down that William Russo would have gotten pulled into this.

Confirms further posters who create charts dont know every families membership to a tee and new guys are always coming and going. If a family has top guys who want it to exist theyll recruit without anyone knowing until they get investigated or indicted

To quote Pennisi again, but, the mob doesn't know how many guys it has.

Also, it looks like according to the article below, Andy Russo attended court virtually from a hospital bed - so he is not in good health.

It also states that not only did Teddy violate his probation by meeting with members of organized crime, but he apparently "directed much of the labor racketeering scheme."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/14/nyre ... ested.html

[joeycigars]

I wonder who’s going to take over for Mush, Benny, etc. where’s Gohn?

If I was to bet on somebody it would be Joe Waverly since Capeci reported last year that it was Teddy Persico jr or Joe Waverly that was next in line to take over as boss. Another possibility could be former street boss Sally Bread Cambria.

Cacace was released about the same time as Teddy , If Cacace at 80 years old is smart he would stay very very low on the totem pole ,