Questions about Scarfo Jr being made into Lucchese family

[HoagieNose]

It seems odd to me that he was made into a totally different family just because his dad and Amuso were prison buddies.

What year was he made?
Did he just get made and accepted into the family, or did he have to prove himself first?

[Pogo The Clown]

His dad asked Amuso to take him in to protect him from the Natale-Merlino regime. He was made some time 1999/2000.


Pogo

[West Coast1]

I think the NJ philly crew helped hide him first and then their friends in Lukes made him so it was hands off

[HoagieNose]

Did that even matter to Merlino? Weren’t there rumors he was still trying to kill Nicky Jr even after he was made ?

[LAfarmer108]

Smart move by Scarfo Sr. to protect the son

[Pmac2]

Probaly saved his son but im guessing if scarfo jr went physically into philly there probaly be a problem he said so anuff on his wiretap to his cousin pellulo. They dont recognize us in philly. He was telling him his button dont matter there

[jmack]

Probaly saved his son but im guessing if scarfo jr went physically into philly there probaly be a problem he said so anuff on his wiretap to his cousin pellulo. They dont recognize us in philly. He was telling him his button dont matter there

Scarfo Jr. has been in Philly plenty of times since he was made by the Luke’s.

[furiofromnaples]

He was made in June 1999 and Nicky jr ever tried to turn back to philly and this is the reason why was demoted when was the capo of NJ crew.
I think that the Luccheses never wanted a war with philly but only helped Jr to save his life.

[Pmac2]

I should have wrote it better. He couldnt set up shop in Philly he was telling his cousin sal pellulo just because there made guys in the luchese family the Philly guys would probaly still touch them in philly.

[OlBlueEyesClub]

He was hidden out in North Jersey, that wing of the family, took responsibility of Nicky Jr, and he was placed in the care of George Fresolone (whom goes into detail about why, and somewhat how he went from being hidden by the NJ wing of the Bruno/Scarfo Crime Family, to being made into the Luccheses and becoming a captain.)

He wasn’t just made a captain because his dad or Amuso said so, Nicky Jr, knew how to earn and his field of expertise was white collar crime. He made the Luccheses a lot of money.

The Pernas never liked Nicky Jr, and they tolerated him because the boss did. But something happened, I think it was the announcement that the feds had been building a case against him & Pelullo, that cause Nicky Jrs stature to be questioned. The Pernas took that opportunity to go and complain to the boss of the family at the time, and when he got the news that they were going to take Nicky Jr down and replace him with one of the Perna brothers. They couldn’t wait to get back to Jersey and let Scarfo Jr. know this, by going directly to him and telling him that he’d been taken down and was no longer a captain.

Basically he made the family money, probably a lot more than the Pernas did, and I simply think the Pernas were just bringing up excuses to have him whacked.

[AntComello]

Idk the pernas def made that family a shit ton of money as well with just their sport’s book alone.

[Wiseguy]

The Pernas never liked Nicky Jr, and they tolerated him because the boss did. But something happened, I think it was the announcement that the feds had been building a case against him & Pelullo, that cause Nicky Jrs stature to be questioned. The Pernas took that opportunity to go and complain to the boss of the family at the time, and when he got the news that they were going to take Nicky Jr down and replace him with one of the Perna brothers. They couldn’t wait to get back to Jersey and let Scarfo Jr. know this, by going directly to him and telling him that he’d been taken down and was no longer a captain.

His legal issues, as well as reports that had come out about supposedly wanting to make a move on Philly territory and recruiting people there. I don't know how much of that was actually true. The Operation Heat affidavit mentioned him requesting to be released from the Lucchese family and moving to Florida while maintaining a residence in Atlantic City. The Pernas definitely used all this to their advantage.

[NJShore4Life]

Nicky Jr and his crew (AP, Sammy, JP, Pelullo, etc) were operating and shaking down joints in the Atlantic City area before he went away around like 2006ish. I had friends at that time who were nightclub and strip club bouncers as well as bartenders in the AC area and they were going around doing their thing . So Nicky Jr was operating in Philly LCN territory during that timeframe.

I’m sure having Nicky Junior’s entire crew that was still out on the streets transferred into Philly LCN after Nicky Jr went away for FirstPlus had something to do with getting back their AC rackets that are traditionally Philly LCN turf.

-Dante

[NJShore4Life]

I mean just listen to Stevie’s pep talk at the induction ceremony that AP recorded. This was all about getting back their AC rackets that Nicky Jr had when he was operating in AC area.

A lot more will be coming out soon on the Nicky Jr / Philly LCN dynamic if Stevie and Dom go to trial to fight their charges because they aren’t able to work out a favorable plea deal.

I’m not even sure though if AP will have to testify and take the stand though because he brought an FBI undercover agent into the fold who can testify who is A LOT more credible than AP.

AP wasnt even a trusted and credible person within the life, not many people trusted him which is why the indictment only hit the Mazzone/Grande wing of the family and the associates on the fringes who dealt in drugs and scams like Sharkey, etc.

AP was only able to get to Dom G because Dom inherited him into his crew, so he unfortunately had AP under him.

-Dante

[Pmac2]

So it jad to been crea an madonna just basically releasing those 2 guys as some type of gift or something weve never got the story ablut that. I find it interesting 1 of the 5 families would give into a smaller family unless they got something out of it. Wonder what. The luchese wouldnt just be like well heres 2 made guys in the jersey crew we dont really know or want you can have them. Its really the first time jve heard of bosses transfering soldiers since the 60tys. Ray patrarca had alot of guys coming and going just because new england was so spread out that if new york guys moved anywhere northeast bascially they transferred to rays family. Seemed like guys were more transient back then just the times