Early Torretta->NYC connections?

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Re: Early Torretta->NYC connections?

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hello B. how did you find out that these Mannino's were from Torretta?
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easy go to 18th ave. Felice..lol
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how you been, italy open up ?
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bronx wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:17 pm easy go to 18th ave. Felice..lol
no, I meant the other Manninos he named at the beginning of the post, I never found any link to Torretta

Angelo MANNINO
b. 1895
soldier
dead in 1974
possible member of Joseph Traina decina
started out in the East Village then they moved to Queens and then Staten Island

Ignazio MANNINO
b. 1925 (to Angelo)
“John Mannino”
soldier
he and his father were operating Angelo's Smithtown Hotel in Long Island
dead on 11.29.1957

Samuel John MANNINO
b. 22 jun 1922 (to Angelo)
soldier
lived in Smithtown, Long Island
died in 2004
member of Joseph Traina decina
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bronx wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:18 pm how you been, italy open up ?
yes, masks are still mandatory outside for some weeks yet but weather's really hot and virus is basically gone
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anyway there's a francesco davì who's a current lucchese soldier and he's from torretta.
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I think that Lorenzo “Lore” Mannino only related to MNninos of Torreta through marriage
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Felice -- Angelo Mannino's immigration record shows he came from Torretta. His parents were Vincenzo and Giuseppina Mannino.
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felice wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:28 pm anyway there's a francesco davì who's a current lucchese soldier and he's from torretta.

Any more information on him? Thanks.


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felice wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:24 pm
bronx wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:17 pm easy go to 18th ave. Felice..lol
no, I meant the other Manninos he named at the beginning of the post, I never found any link to Torretta

Angelo MANNINO
b. 1895
soldier
dead in 1974
possible member of Joseph Traina decina
started out in the East Village then they moved to Queens and then Staten Island

Ignazio MANNINO
b. 1925 (to Angelo)
“John Mannino”
soldier
he and his father were operating Angelo's Smithtown Hotel in Long Island
dead on 11.29.1957

Samuel John MANNINO
b. 22 jun 1922 (to Angelo)
soldier
lived in Smithtown, Long Island
died in 2004
member of Joseph Traina decina
Any relation with Frank Mannino who owns Manninos in Smithtown?
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B. wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:51 pm Felice -- Angelo Mannino's immigration record shows he came from Torretta. His parents were Vincenzo and Giuseppina Mannino.
that's interesting, thank you. I will check it then
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 5:38 pm
felice wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:28 pm anyway there's a francesco davì who's a current lucchese soldier and he's from torretta.

Any more information on him? Thanks.


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he's lives in astoria, have been involved in narcotics trafficking in the 80s. I think he may have answered to Baratta, I once read it somewhere. In the 80s he was definitely closer to the Gambinos
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The Lucchese zips are the most mysterious... most of them "should" have belonged to the Gambino family and the Luccheses aren't known to have kept close ties to Sicily. Most of the Sicilians with the Bonanno and Gambino families make sense but I've had a hard time figuring the Luccheses out.

Some names:

Onofrio Milazzo -- from Trapani province, belived to be a Sicilian man of honor who transferred to the Luccheses circa late 1960s or early 1970s before leaving the country. His relatives were NJ Lucchese associates.

Leo Giammona -- Passo di Rigano mafia royalty, nephew to Carlo Gambino, son-in-law of Frank Castellana. Attended Bono wedding. Total mystery why he ended up with the Lucchese family. Both Gambino members and Lucchese leaders wanted him dead apparently for different reasons but never seen a clear reason he was killed.

Paolo LoDuca -- close to the Gancis who ran the Noce family and a compare to Rosario Naimo. Identified by Italian authorities as a Sicilian man of honor, so he may have transferred to the Luccheses. Close to members of the Gambino Sicilian faction, LoDuca's promotion to Lucchese captain coincides with the Sicilians taking power in the Gambino family, coincidence or not.

Rosario Naimo -- the top Sicilian man of honor in the US for a period but was under the authority of the Lucchese family. Did not transfer like his friend LoDuca, remaining with San Lorenzo.

Vincenzo Napoli -- brother Antonino was a man of honor in Villabate who joined the Gambino family, as did brother Gaetano. Enzo Napoli was still an associate of the Gambino family when he was brought into the Luccheses, which caused an issue. Who was his sponsor? Napoli was known to associate closely with the Sicilian factions of both the Bonanno and Gambino families.

Francesco Davi -- I'm not familiar with him but if he's from Torretta, that is yet another guy with ties to the Gambino network who mysteriously ends up with the Luccheses.
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Thanks for the info.


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B. wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:35 pm The Lucchese zips are the most mysterious... most of them "should" have belonged to the Gambino family and the Luccheses aren't known to have kept close ties to Sicily. Most of the Sicilians with the Bonanno and Gambino families make sense but I've had a hard time figuring the Luccheses out.

My long standing theory has been the Sicilians that took over in Sicily, didnt want the key guys involved in their operations, too close to the Gambinos. I feel like the Sicilians who ended up Luchesses was a political reaction.

Instead of Gambino allied point men in America, I think the Sicilians favored a more neutral borgata, one with no stake in the political situation in Sicily.


I've always seen Ganci and Catalano as Corleonesi creatures, operating in America. Same with Naimo.
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