B. wrote:
Bruno was [...] one of the biggest advocates for wiping out the Gallo faction. He offered to send Philly soldiers up to NY so that unknowns could hit them.
Haha... the "docile" don, gettin' murderous yet again. Never knew about this, thanks for the info. I get the feeling that eventually we're going to uncover so many more murders and murder conspiracies by Bruno that he'll achieve parity with Scarfo himself.
Speaking of people wanting to wipe out the Gallos, that Kid Blast is one hell of a survivor, isn't he? Son of a bitch is still around and still running a Genovese crew. He's outlasted pretty much everyone from the era, both in terms of staying alive and staying a free man.
B. wrote:
Bruno was [...] one of the biggest advocates for wiping out the Gallo faction. He offered to send Philly soldiers up to NY so that unknowns could hit them.
Haha... the "docile" don, gettin' murderous yet again. Never knew about this, thanks for the info. I get the feeling that eventually we're going to uncover so many more murders and murder conspiracies by Bruno that he'll achieve parity with Scarfo himself.
Speaking of people wanting to wipe out the Gallos, that Kid Blast is one hell of a survivor, isn't he? Son of a bitch is still around and still running a Genovese crew. He's outlasted pretty much everyone from the era, both in terms of staying alive and staying a free man.
Yeah, Gallo is something. Not just getting picked up by the Genovese, but to have the "success" he's had under them is pretty big. He's also stayed very low-key despite the infamy his name brings him.
Twenty years as boss in a place like Philly will definitely give someone a body count. Bruno is believed to have been involved in at least four hits as an associate/soldier and once or twice was said to have been a shooter, too. He was a businessman though and I think it's true that murder was a last resort for him. The difference with Scarfo is that even though a lot of his hits were justified according to the rules, he genuinely enjoyed ordering them.
Sorry, didn't mean to make this into yet another Philly topic. Thom Jones eye roll
Ralph Natale also had ties to the Colombos and had a meeting with them in NY shortly after becoming Boss.
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That could have been it. I seem to recall him making contacts during his prison stretch.
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Natale testified that he and Merlino traveled to New York to meet with Andy Russo & Tommy Gieoli, I think this was in 1994/95 (this date could be off), he also testified that he, Merlino, and Mazzone met with more Colombo guys a year or so later.
The Cleveland family had strong ties as well, especially from the 1930's-1980's. Tony & Frank Milano were major players around the country with strong ties to L.A. (through Dragna and Fratianno), Detroit, Pittsburgh, New York and New Orleans. John "Peanuts" Tronolone and Tony Salerno were very close and the Genovese Family represented them on the commission. Lonardo was alos close to Accardo, Aiuppa and Lombardo in Chicago. Through Maishe Rockman along with Bill Presser, Cleveland was connected to KC and Milwaukee along with Allen Dorfman in Chicago. John Scalish was particularly close to Joe Zerilli and Stefano Maggadino. Jack Licavoli's cousin Yonnie Licavoli in Detroit and also connected to St. Louis where the Licavoli's were orginally from. Stefano Randazzo, originally with Cleveland ended up going to Tampa with Santo Traficante Jr. Most important, they were tied to Las Vegas with Moe Dalitz. Moe Dalitz very well may have been the wealthiest gangster in the history of Organized Crime. He truly took his criminal empire and went legit to become the King of Las Vegas, something Michael Corleone couldn't even do
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Chucky wrote:Natale testified that he and Merlino traveled to New York to meet with Andy Russo & Tommy Gieoli, I think this was in 1994/95 (this date could be off), he also testified that he, Merlino, and Mazzone met with more Colombo guys a year or so later.
Thanks for these details. I wonder if Natale's debriefings have ever been made available? Should be some interesting info in them.
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JCB1977 wrote:The Cleveland family had strong ties as well, especially from the 1930's-1980's. Tony & Frank Milano were major players around the country with strong ties to L.A. (through Dragna and Fratianno), Detroit, Pittsburgh, New York and New Orleans. John "Peanuts" Tronolone and Tony Salerno were very close and the Genovese Family represented them on the commission. Lonardo was alos close to Accardo, Aiuppa and Lombardo in Chicago. Through Maishe Rockman along with Bill Presser, Cleveland was connected to KC and Milwaukee along with Allen Dorfman in Chicago. John Scalish was particularly close to Joe Zerilli and Stefano Maggadino. Jack Licavoli's cousin Yonnie Licavoli in Detroit and also connected to St. Louis where the Licavoli's were orginally from. Stefano Randazzo, originally with Cleveland ended up going to Tampa with Santo Traficante Jr. Most important, they were tied to Las Vegas with Moe Dalitz. Moe Dalitz very well may have been the wealthiest gangster in the history of Organized Crime. He truly took his criminal empire and went legit to become the King of Las Vegas, something Michael Corleone couldn't even do
YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE EARLY TWENTIES, WITH LONARDO'S ,MILANO'S
