When was Ernie Boy Abbamonte made?

[sdeitche]

Does anyone know? When he gets indicted in 1986 (while he's already in prison), he is referred to as a Bonanno and Lucchese guy. Obviously by the time he's indicted in 2012 for extortion he is listed as a Gambino soldier.

[eboli]

At the time of his 2012 indictment, he was described as a 'longtime' Gambino soldier. In the early 2000s he was described as a Gambino 'druglord' and it seems like he was already a member when they were dealing with the Aryan Brotherhood in the 90s. His father Ernie Sr. was originally from East Harlem, so that might explain why they labeled Ernie Boy a Lucchese guy, despite the fact that Mickey Paradiso was a co-conspirator in the 1986 indictment.

Forgot to add, Henry Hill dealt with him, and he described him as one of Gotti's guys.

[sdeitche]

At the time of his 2012 indictment, he was described as a 'longtime' Gambino soldier. In the early 2000s he was described as a Gambino 'druglord' and it seems like he was already a member when they were dealing with the Aryan Brotherhood in the 90s. His father Ernie Sr. was originally from East Harlem, so that might explain why they labeled Ernie Boy a Lucchese guy, despite the fact that Mickey Paradiso was a co-conspirator in the 1986 indictment.

Forgot to add, Henry Hill dealt with him, and he described him as one of Gotti's guys.

Thanks.

[newera_212]

At the time of his 2012 indictment, he was described as a 'longtime' Gambino soldier. In the early 2000s he was described as a Gambino 'druglord' and it seems like he was already a member when they were dealing with the Aryan Brotherhood in the 90s. His father Ernie Sr. was originally from East Harlem, so that might explain why they labeled Ernie Boy a Lucchese guy, despite the fact that Mickey Paradiso was a co-conspirator in the 1986 indictment.

Forgot to add, Henry Hill dealt with him, and he described him as one of Gotti's guys.

unless maybe it was his father(?) , I remember reading that Abbamonte was dealing with the (federal) AB as early as the early 80s and was allegedly the one who gave them the ‘idea’ to organize and transform into more of a business enterprise, with a commission - although it also appears there was some sort of hierarchy pretty much as soon as the AB hit the feds. IIRC it was Abbemonte who was the AB’s first real ally in LCN

[eboli]

At the time of his 2012 indictment, he was described as a 'longtime' Gambino soldier. In the early 2000s he was described as a Gambino 'druglord' and it seems like he was already a member when they were dealing with the Aryan Brotherhood in the 90s. His father Ernie Sr. was originally from East Harlem, so that might explain why they labeled Ernie Boy a Lucchese guy, despite the fact that Mickey Paradiso was a co-conspirator in the 1986 indictment.

Forgot to add, Henry Hill dealt with him, and he described him as one of Gotti's guys.

unless maybe it was his father(?) , I remember reading that Abbamonte was dealing with the (federal) AB as early as the early 80s and was allegedly the one who gave them the ‘idea’ to organize and transform into more of a business enterprise, with a commission - although it also appears there was some sort of hierarchy pretty much as soon as the AB hit the feds. IIRC it was Abbemonte who was the AB’s first real ally in LCN

Yeah, I think you're correct. Ernie Boy was dealing with the prison gangs early on. I don't know if they got the idea about a commission from him directly or the mob in general, but they really wanted to deal with LCN through him. Apparently he was all over the place. I've read he even used to deal with black gang leaders in prison, but I don't know if there's any truth to it.

As for his dealings with the AB, he would contact a mid-level member of the federal AB, who then contacted the AB higher ups. The chain of communication in the 1990s, explained by prison authorities, looked like this: Gotti/LCN - > Ernie Boy - > Ronald 'Slo' Slocum, AB member and street courier - > Barry 'The Baron' Mills, high-ranking AB member - > Tyler 'The Hulk' Bingham, senior commission member and shot caller. LCN was the junior partner in the partnership with the AB, since the AB took a huge percent of LCN's profits from drug distribution in prison, offered protection services, and prison privileges for LCN members.

[Pmac2]

Probaly around 2000 when peter gotti was boss

[furiofromnaples]

Abbamonte spent half of his life in prison for drugs,in the forum chart induction cremonies list there aren't his name but aI found a 2013 chart where he is listed as a made men.

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbth ... Post754208

[Cheech]

hes prominently featured in the pleasant ave book

[TommyGambino]

Is he free?

[jimmi_beans8]

LAST I REMEMBER,,,caught more time for dealing on the OUTSIDE while still locked INSIDE

[The Greek]

hes prominently featured in the pleasant ave book

The book is called "Blue Domino' I think

[sdeitche]

hes prominently featured in the pleasant ave book

The book is called "Blue Domino' I think

he's in both books - Blue Domino and Pleasant Avenue Connection

[Cheech]

i have both but only read pleasant ave connection. not blue domino

[TwoPiece]

speaking of blue domino are there any ebooks of it out there? can't believe the physical copies go for so much

[newera_212]

At the time of his 2012 indictment, he was described as a 'longtime' Gambino soldier. In the early 2000s he was described as a Gambino 'druglord' and it seems like he was already a member when they were dealing with the Aryan Brotherhood in the 90s. His father Ernie Sr. was originally from East Harlem, so that might explain why they labeled Ernie Boy a Lucchese guy, despite the fact that Mickey Paradiso was a co-conspirator in the 1986 indictment.

Forgot to add, Henry Hill dealt with him, and he described him as one of Gotti's guys.

unless maybe it was his father(?) , I remember reading that Abbamonte was dealing with the (federal) AB as early as the early 80s and was allegedly the one who gave them the ‘idea’ to organize and transform into more of a business enterprise, with a commission - although it also appears there was some sort of hierarchy pretty much as soon as the AB hit the feds. IIRC it was Abbemonte who was the AB’s first real ally in LCN

Yeah, I think you're correct. Ernie Boy was dealing with the prison gangs early on. I don't know if they got the idea about a commission from him directly or the mob in general, but they really wanted to deal with LCN through him. Apparently he was all over the place. I've read he even used to deal with black gang leaders in prison, but I don't know if there's any truth to it.

As for his dealings with the AB, he would contact a mid-level member of the federal AB, who then contacted the AB higher ups. The chain of communication in the 1990s, explained by prison authorities, looked like this: Gotti/LCN - > Ernie Boy - > Ronald 'Slo' Slocum, AB member and street courier - > Barry 'The Baron' Mills, high-ranking AB member - > Tyler 'The Hulk' Bingham, senior commission member and shot caller. LCN was the junior partner in the partnership with the AB, since the AB took a huge percent of LCN's profits from drug distribution in prison, offered protection services, and prison privileges for LCN members.

damn. some good info. ty