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Stroccos wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:10 pm
FriendofHenry wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 6:06 pm
Stroccos wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:33 pm
JCB1977 wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:05 pm Mallamo was closely aligned with Tony Milano. He’s stuck very close to the Calabrians. He was tight with Bazzano, Ripepi and Jimmy Tripodi from Pittsburgh but answered to Tony Milano. From the research I have been able to find, it seems like he was aligned with Pittsburgh early on and then Cleveland. By 1980, he was in semi retirement and his nephew Jimmy Prato was running the show. Mallamo had the Romeo brothers, Frank & Bruno Mallamo as well as Jimmy Prato and Dominic Prato as his close knit group in Youngstown. Ultimately, Milano called the shots with the Calabrians.
interesting

aything to murgie and the romeo brothers once being with celveland to
Please understand that I certainly can not speak of who Charlie may or may not have been affiliated with other than Pittsburgh.
Other than Tony Delsanter, who i know he was close to, I know of no other connection he had to Cleveland. Maybe Pat Ferruccio???
I went back and reread the file it didn't list murgie as a Cleveland guy just a associate of Cleveland and member of Pittsburgh , but some informants listed the romeos as members of Cleveland ,
I am would guess murgie had many connections to Cleveland
as you said delsanter and licavoli ,
when peanuts tronolone becaome boss he dealt with Murgie , Papalardo and joe loose also did in some capiticy
I certainly don't disagree with any of the above. As you would expect, Charlie never talked to me about any of his "associates" ;)
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Stroccos wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:33 pm
JCB1977 wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:05 pm Mallamo was closely aligned with Tony Milano. He’s stuck very close to the Calabrians. He was tight with Bazzano, Ripepi and Jimmy Tripodi from Pittsburgh but answered to Tony Milano. From the research I have been able to find, it seems like he was aligned with Pittsburgh early on and then Cleveland. By 1980, he was in semi retirement and his nephew Jimmy Prato was running the show. Mallamo had the Romeo brothers, Frank & Bruno Mallamo as well as Jimmy Prato and Dominic Prato as his close knit group in Youngstown. Ultimately, Milano called the shots with the Calabrians.
interesting

aything to murgie and the romeo brothers once being with celveland to
Romeo brothers, being Calabrian, we’re closely aligned with the same guys as Mallamo. They answered to Tony Milano. Paul Romeo was Godfather to John Bazzano Jr. He was close to Gianni “John” Bazzano Sr, also a Calabrian. John Bazzano Sr was Godfather to Paul’s son, Michael Dominic Romeo. Michael D Romeo and John Jr were as close as brothers, each being Godfather to each’s eldest child. The Ripepi’s and Bazzano’s (John Bazzano Jr also son in law to Tony Ripepi) used to spend a lot of time in Youngstown. Paul Romeo Sr interceded when Kelly Mannarino wanted to kill Ripepi. Mannarino was also Calabrian (surname was Ruggiero). Murgie was also close to Tronolone, Jack White, Ernie La Salle aka Fusco, John Angersola as well as the Detroit group (through Mannarino’s close connections to The Giacalones). Charlie was loyal to Kelly Mannarino, Big John and Mike Genovese, the old guard. Joe Regino was another very close friend of his.
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Here's a question that fits closely with this topic. Maybe one of you Cleveland guys can fill in the blanks.

- In 1963, Angelo Bruno was recorded discussing a situation where a Buffalo member got into serious trouble with Stefano Magaddino and fled to Cleveland because he believed Magaddino was going to kill him. He contacted Scalish's consigliere and was placed under the Cleveland consigliere's protection.

- The Cleveland family then reached out to Angelo Bruno for advice, who told them to contact Magaddino so they can figure out the story and decide if they can try to save the guy or not. Apparently the Cleveland consigliere did not report the issue to the Commission, which was a problem. John Scalish apparently volunteered to have the Buffalo member killed on Magaddino's behalf as long as Magaddino told him the backstory, but it's not clear what came of it. Bruno was only telling the story to explain Commission / inter-family politics and protocol.

- The Cleveland consigliere is never named. Would this be John DeMarco? I know he was a high-ranking member and is sometimes listed as consigliere, but not sure if that's confirmed or not.

- The Buffalo member isn't named. It wouldn't be someone from the DiCarlo-Pieri faction, as they had already left Buffalo and were members of either Cleveland or Detroit. This member was still living in Buffalo up to the point he fled to Cleveland.

- This must have happened sometime between 1959-1963, after Bruno took over Philly.

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- The only thing that comes to mind is an issue Buffalo member Salvatore Brocato had in Ohio. In late 1963, the Magaddino leadership was recorded arbitrating a sitdown with Brocato and fellow Buffalo member Crl Rizzo because thirteen years earlier (1950) Brocato had been in Canton, Ohio, and had borrowed money from Pittsburgh member Pat Ferruccio, as well as other Ohio figures "Carl Zino" (ph) and Bruno LNU, in order to start a business. Carl Rizzo had been with him and vouched for Brocato to the other men. Both Brocato and Rizzo were in Ohio on their way back from Detroit.

- As of 1963, Brocato had not completely repaid this loan and Rizzo registered a complaint with the Buffalo leadership, as the Ohio men were leaning on Rizzo to collect the money and it reflected badly on Rizzo. The Buffalo leadership sided with Brocato, as they felt Rizzo made a fool out of himself by taking responsibility for the loan and that the Ohio figures had no right to lean on Rizzo to collect it from Brocato.

- Brocato was questioned in connection to a jewelry theft in Youngstown in early 1950, around the same time he visited Canton. Any guesses on who "Carl Zino" and Bruno LNU might be? They appear to be associated closely with Ferruccio.

- Aside from this issue involving Buffalo members and Ohio mafia figures, I highly doubt it has anything to do with the above issue where a Buffalo member sought protection from the Cleveland family. The Buffalo leadership did not seem to be concerned enough with the issue to severely punish Rizzo or Brocato just for owing money to Canton figures. Also, this sitdown took place in late 1963, months after Angelo Bruno discussed the other Buffalo/Cleveland issue so the timeline doesn't really fit either.

Interesting on its own, though, and shows there was a lot of contact between Buffalo and Ohio figures.
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B. wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:00 am Here's a question that fits closely with this topic. Maybe one of you Cleveland guys can fill in the blanks.

- In 1963, Angelo Bruno was recorded discussing a situation where a Buffalo member got into serious trouble with Stefano Magaddino and fled to Cleveland because he believed Magaddino was going to kill him. He contacted Scalish's consigliere and was placed under the Cleveland consigliere's protection.

- The Cleveland family then reached out to Angelo Bruno for advice, who told them to contact Magaddino so they can figure out the story and decide if they can try to save the guy or not. Apparently the Cleveland consigliere did not report the issue to the Commission, which was a problem. John Scalish apparently volunteered to have the Buffalo member killed on Magaddino's behalf as long as Magaddino told him the backstory, but it's not clear what came of it. Bruno was only telling the story to explain Commission / inter-family politics and protocol.

- The Cleveland consigliere is never named. Would this be John DeMarco? I know he was a high-ranking member and is sometimes listed as consigliere, but not sure if that's confirmed or not.

- The Buffalo member isn't named. It wouldn't be someone from the DiCarlo-Pieri faction, as they had already left Buffalo and were members of either Cleveland or Detroit. This member was still living in Buffalo up to the point he fled to Cleveland.

- This must have happened sometime between 1959-1963, after Bruno took over Philly.

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- The only thing that comes to mind is an issue Buffalo member Salvatore Brocato had in Ohio. In late 1963, the Magaddino leadership was recorded arbitrating a sitdown with Brocato and fellow Buffalo member Crl Rizzo because thirteen years earlier (1950) Brocato had been in Canton, Ohio, and had borrowed money from Pittsburgh member Pat Ferruccio, as well as other Ohio figures "Carl Zino" (ph) and Bruno LNU, in order to start a business. Carl Rizzo had been with him and vouched for Brocato to the other men. Both Brocato and Rizzo were in Ohio on their way back from Detroit.

- As of 1963, Brocato had not completely repaid this loan and Rizzo registered a complaint with the Buffalo leadership, as the Ohio men were leaning on Rizzo to collect the money and it reflected badly on Rizzo. The Buffalo leadership sided with Brocato, as they felt Rizzo made a fool out of himself by taking responsibility for the loan and that the Ohio figures had no right to lean on Rizzo to collect it from Brocato.

- Brocato was questioned in connection to a jewelry theft in Youngstown in early 1950, around the same time he visited Canton. Any guesses on who "Carl Zino" and Bruno LNU might be? They appear to be associated closely with Ferruccio.

- Aside from this issue involving Buffalo members and Ohio mafia figures, I highly doubt it has anything to do with the above issue where a Buffalo member sought protection from the Cleveland family. The Buffalo leadership did not seem to be concerned enough with the issue to severely punish Rizzo or Brocato just for owing money to Canton figures. Also, this sitdown took place in late 1963, months after Angelo Bruno discussed the other Buffalo/Cleveland issue so the timeline doesn't really fit either.

Interesting on its own, though, and shows there was a lot of contact between Buffalo and Ohio figures.
interesting stuff B , there were tons of connections between buffalo and cleveland
i dont know who the guy was John Demarco was the consigliere , there was a narcotics pipeline bewteen buffalo and cleveland guys in the 50's it may of been connected to demarco i dont remeber

i wonder if Bruno was Frank Bruno
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My best guess is Tommy Bruno...big bookmaker out of Akron, closely connected to Dominic Mallamo.

Other guesses on Bruno:

Bruno Tegano, Steubenville. He was Calabrian like Ferruccio and one of Jimmy Tripodi’s top guys.

Bruno Mallamo- However, Big Dom handled all affairs with Ferruccio. His brother Bruno mostly was a bookkeeper for the numbers business, not as heavily involved as Big Dom
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Stroccos wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:03 am
B. wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:00 am Here's a question that fits closely with this topic. Maybe one of you Cleveland guys can fill in the blanks.

- In 1963, Angelo Bruno was recorded discussing a situation where a Buffalo member got into serious trouble with Stefano Magaddino and fled to Cleveland because he believed Magaddino was going to kill him. He contacted Scalish's consigliere and was placed under the Cleveland consigliere's protection.

- The Cleveland family then reached out to Angelo Bruno for advice, who told them to contact Magaddino so they can figure out the story and decide if they can try to save the guy or not. Apparently the Cleveland consigliere did not report the issue to the Commission, which was a problem. John Scalish apparently volunteered to have the Buffalo member killed on Magaddino's behalf as long as Magaddino told him the backstory, but it's not clear what came of it. Bruno was only telling the story to explain Commission / inter-family politics and protocol.

- The Cleveland consigliere is never named. Would this be John DeMarco? I know he was a high-ranking member and is sometimes listed as consigliere, but not sure if that's confirmed or not.

- The Buffalo member isn't named. It wouldn't be someone from the DiCarlo-Pieri faction, as they had already left Buffalo and were members of either Cleveland or Detroit. This member was still living in Buffalo up to the point he fled to Cleveland.

- This must have happened sometime between 1959-1963, after Bruno took over Philly.

--

- The only thing that comes to mind is an issue Buffalo member Salvatore Brocato had in Ohio. In late 1963, the Magaddino leadership was recorded arbitrating a sitdown with Brocato and fellow Buffalo member Crl Rizzo because thirteen years earlier (1950) Brocato had been in Canton, Ohio, and had borrowed money from Pittsburgh member Pat Ferruccio, as well as other Ohio figures "Carl Zino" (ph) and Bruno LNU, in order to start a business. Carl Rizzo had been with him and vouched for Brocato to the other men. Both Brocato and Rizzo were in Ohio on their way back from Detroit.

- As of 1963, Brocato had not completely repaid this loan and Rizzo registered a complaint with the Buffalo leadership, as the Ohio men were leaning on Rizzo to collect the money and it reflected badly on Rizzo. The Buffalo leadership sided with Brocato, as they felt Rizzo made a fool out of himself by taking responsibility for the loan and that the Ohio figures had no right to lean on Rizzo to collect it from Brocato.

- Brocato was questioned in connection to a jewelry theft in Youngstown in early 1950, around the same time he visited Canton. Any guesses on who "Carl Zino" and Bruno LNU might be? They appear to be associated closely with Ferruccio.

- Aside from this issue involving Buffalo members and Ohio mafia figures, I highly doubt it has anything to do with the above issue where a Buffalo member sought protection from the Cleveland family. The Buffalo leadership did not seem to be concerned enough with the issue to severely punish Rizzo or Brocato just for owing money to Canton figures. Also, this sitdown took place in late 1963, months after Angelo Bruno discussed the other Buffalo/Cleveland issue so the timeline doesn't really fit either.

Interesting on its own, though, and shows there was a lot of contact between Buffalo and Ohio figures.
interesting stuff B , there were tons of connections between buffalo and cleveland
i dont know who the guy was John Demarco was the consigliere , there was a narcotics pipeline bewteen buffalo and cleveland guys in the 50's it may of been connected to demarco i dont remeber

i wonder if Bruno was Frank Bruno
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Carl Rizzo, arrested in 1950 with Joseph Corbi (Baltimore), Charles Boncore (Buffalo, NY) Sam Salone (Rochester, NY), John Melito (Utica, NY), Serafino Camiolo (Rochester, NY) among others. He was employed at Warwick Novelty Co. in Canton, OH (A jukebox distributor)

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I believe that FoF actually knew Tony La-Facia (?). Maybe he can shed some light on this?
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JCB1977 wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:08 am
Stroccos wrote: Mon Oct 19, 2020 1:03 am
B. wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:00 am Here's a question that fits closely with this topic. Maybe one of you Cleveland guys can fill in the blanks.

- In 1963, Angelo Bruno was recorded discussing a situation where a Buffalo member got into serious trouble with Stefano Magaddino and fled to Cleveland because he believed Magaddino was going to kill him. He contacted Scalish's consigliere and was placed under the Cleveland consigliere's protection.

- The Cleveland family then reached out to Angelo Bruno for advice, who told them to contact Magaddino so they can figure out the story and decide if they can try to save the guy or not. Apparently the Cleveland consigliere did not report the issue to the Commission, which was a problem. John Scalish apparently volunteered to have the Buffalo member killed on Magaddino's behalf as long as Magaddino told him the backstory, but it's not clear what came of it. Bruno was only telling the story to explain Commission / inter-family politics and protocol.

- The Cleveland consigliere is never named. Would this be John DeMarco? I know he was a high-ranking member and is sometimes listed as consigliere, but not sure if that's confirmed or not.

- The Buffalo member isn't named. It wouldn't be someone from the DiCarlo-Pieri faction, as they had already left Buffalo and were members of either Cleveland or Detroit. This member was still living in Buffalo up to the point he fled to Cleveland.

- This must have happened sometime between 1959-1963, after Bruno took over Philly.

--

- The only thing that comes to mind is an issue Buffalo member Salvatore Brocato had in Ohio. In late 1963, the Magaddino leadership was recorded arbitrating a sitdown with Brocato and fellow Buffalo member Crl Rizzo because thirteen years earlier (1950) Brocato had been in Canton, Ohio, and had borrowed money from Pittsburgh member Pat Ferruccio, as well as other Ohio figures "Carl Zino" (ph) and Bruno LNU, in order to start a business. Carl Rizzo had been with him and vouched for Brocato to the other men. Both Brocato and Rizzo were in Ohio on their way back from Detroit.

- As of 1963, Brocato had not completely repaid this loan and Rizzo registered a complaint with the Buffalo leadership, as the Ohio men were leaning on Rizzo to collect the money and it reflected badly on Rizzo. The Buffalo leadership sided with Brocato, as they felt Rizzo made a fool out of himself by taking responsibility for the loan and that the Ohio figures had no right to lean on Rizzo to collect it from Brocato.

- Brocato was questioned in connection to a jewelry theft in Youngstown in early 1950, around the same time he visited Canton. Any guesses on who "Carl Zino" and Bruno LNU might be? They appear to be associated closely with Ferruccio.

- Aside from this issue involving Buffalo members and Ohio mafia figures, I highly doubt it has anything to do with the above issue where a Buffalo member sought protection from the Cleveland family. The Buffalo leadership did not seem to be concerned enough with the issue to severely punish Rizzo or Brocato just for owing money to Canton figures. Also, this sitdown took place in late 1963, months after Angelo Bruno discussed the other Buffalo/Cleveland issue so the timeline doesn't really fit either.

Interesting on its own, though, and shows there was a lot of contact between Buffalo and Ohio figures.
interesting stuff B , there were tons of connections between buffalo and cleveland
i dont know who the guy was John Demarco was the consigliere , there was a narcotics pipeline bewteen buffalo and cleveland guys in the 50's it may of been connected to demarco i dont remeber

i wonder if Bruno was Frank Bruno
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good find , so its likely one of the two bruno brothers
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JCB1977 wrote: Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:18 pm
Stroccos wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:33 pm
JCB1977 wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:05 pm Mallamo was closely aligned with Tony Milano. He’s stuck very close to the Calabrians. He was tight with Bazzano, Ripepi and Jimmy Tripodi from Pittsburgh but answered to Tony Milano. From the research I have been able to find, it seems like he was aligned with Pittsburgh early on and then Cleveland. By 1980, he was in semi retirement and his nephew Jimmy Prato was running the show. Mallamo had the Romeo brothers, Frank & Bruno Mallamo as well as Jimmy Prato and Dominic Prato as his close knit group in Youngstown. Ultimately, Milano called the shots with the Calabrians.
interesting

aything to murgie and the romeo brothers once being with celveland to
Romeo brothers, being Calabrian, we’re closely aligned with the same guys as Mallamo. They answered to Tony Milano. Paul Romeo was Godfather to John Bazzano Jr. He was close to Gianni “John” Bazzano Sr, also a Calabrian. John Bazzano Sr was Godfather to Paul’s son, Michael Dominic Romeo. Michael D Romeo and John Jr were as close as brothers, each being Godfather to each’s eldest child. The Ripepi’s and Bazzano’s (John Bazzano Jr also son in law to Tony Ripepi) used to spend a lot of time in Youngstown. Paul Romeo Sr interceded when Kelly Mannarino wanted to kill Ripepi. Mannarino was also Calabrian (surname was Ruggiero). Murgie was also close to Tronolone, Jack White, Ernie La Salle aka Fusco, John Angersola as well as the Detroit group (through Mannarino’s close connections to The Giacalones). Charlie was loyal to Kelly Mannarino, Big John and Mike Genovese, the old guard. Joe Regino was another very close friend of his.
Why did Mannarino want to kill Ripepi?
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