Sammy claims Watts an informant

[JakeTheSnake630]

I posted the link to the video but I guess it got taken down b/c it was in the wrong section. That being said im sure you all know how to find sammys videos on YouTube. This is the first I’ve ever heard of Watts being a CI. Could just be a bitter Gravano, or maybe it’s true? Would love to hear some thoughts. Has anyone ever heard of Joe Watts being a CI?

[HairyKnuckles]

I posted the link to the video but I guess it got taken down b/c it was in the wrong section. That being said im sure you all know how to find sammys videos on YouTube. This is the first I’ve ever heard of Watts being a CI. Could just be a bitter Gravano, or maybe it’s true? Would love to hear some thoughts. Has anyone ever heard of Joe Watts being a CI?

You guessed right. Put all youtube videos in the mugshot section.

[Eld]

I posted the link to the video but I guess it got taken down b/c it was in the wrong section. That being said im sure you all know how to find sammys videos on YouTube. This is the first I’ve ever heard of Watts being a CI. Could just be a bitter Gravano, or maybe it’s true? Would love to hear some thoughts. Has anyone ever heard of Joe Watts being a CI?

If I rember right Junior Gotti also claimed Watts was a CI, I belive it stems from the 1990s when Watts got a 6 years plea deal for multiple murders. Dosen't seem to be any public info backing it up.


According to Gotti's FBI file he did have a CI close to him during his trip to Miami in the spring of 1987. If that was Watts we don't know.

[JakeTheSnake630]

Could it have been Willy Boy?

[Hired_Goonz]

Is it true that Watts was queen for a day? I thought I read somewhere that he sat down for a proffer session. In any event I wouldn't be surprised in the least if both he and Sammy were CIs in the late 70s early 80s.

[Stroccos]

I posted the link to the video but I guess it got taken down b/c it was in the wrong section. That being said im sure you all know how to find sammys videos on YouTube. This is the first I’ve ever heard of Watts being a CI. Could just be a bitter Gravano, or maybe it’s true? Would love to hear some thoughts. Has anyone ever heard of Joe Watts being a CI?

If I rember right Junior Gotti also claimed Watts was a CI, I belive it stems from the 1990s when Watts got a 6 years plea deal for multiple murders. Dosen't seem to be any public info backing it up.


According to Gotti's FBI file he did have a CI close to him during his trip to Miami in the spring of 1987. If that was Watts we don't know.

Kind of ironic since didn’t Jr gotti rat on watts

[Tonyd621]

He did too much time. I dnt believe it

[Pmac2]

he wouldnt have got the last 13yrs he would have flipped i think if he was a CI. they would have wrapped that murder into his first plea deal

[Eld]

According to Jr Gotti the CI in question (who he suspected was Watts) later had a falling out with the goverment.

[Tonyd621]

I cant stand how Sammy portrays himself now compared to ppl like Watts or Gotti or whoever. Like hes the last gangster. Somehow the way he ratted allows him to hold his head high compared to everybody elses.

[Nick Prango]

I cant stand how Sammy portrays himself now compared to ppl like Watts or Gotti or whoever. Like hes the last gangster. Somehow the way he ratted allows him to hold his head high compared to everybody elses.

I totally agree. Salvatore Gravano is full of shit. Salvatore Gravano is bragging, but when you're a snitch who had to testify in multiple high profile cases, you can't brag about not needing protection. Gravano was being protected by the government. Every prison has a place for snitches. Gravano was in those places. He wasn't in general population. Even in Colorado Supermax he was on 23hr lockdown, their whole system is the protection. The guys doing time in Colorado Supermax don't have physical contact with inmates or anyone else.


Gotti never payed money to the Brand for protection, his family has even confirmed that's false. John Gotti was never extorted. He was jumped by a mentally unstable young guy and that's it. Gotti was an 55 year old man by then (1996) so of course the younger Johnson had the upper hand.There are a couple of versions of the story out there. Probably Gotti was running his mouth and got what was coming to him. He was jumped by 28 year old Walter Johnson. But he was never extorted by the Aryan Brotherhood. Gotti was arrogant and narcissistic that personality type had difficulty getting along with others. You have to humble yourself in prison to a certain degree and respect the other prisoners. Some prisoners don't give a crap who you were on the outside. And who cares if he got beaten up anyway? He was still a stand up guy, gave no names, dusted himself off and moved on. Gotti was 55 in the summer of 1996. Gotti was old and sick by this point. People make a big deal about a young guy beating the crap out of a 55 year old man. In his younger years, Gotti was a well known tough guy who was really good with his hands. And no doubt if Gotti knew it was coming the results may have been different even at that stage in Gotti’s life.

In this interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guqiFDl1gb4

on street gangs this blood gang member who did time with John Gotti talks about the situation. Gotti didn't get beat to a pulp. Around the 4min mark. He makes it seem like Gotti had no real issues. This guy says that Gotti was cool. And he never saw any racism. He was treated like a superstar by fellow inmates He just had a problem with that 1 guy, and that 1 guy Walter Johnson was a fucking nutjob. It was just a random one off, and even in Marion Gotti had the power to not get touched like that. One reason it's hard to believe he was assaulted again or extorted on a regular basis is because it would have made the news. Just like the 1st one. The feds got a kick out of humiliating him.

[funkster]

It is odd that Sammy is somehow trying to disassociate himself with having flipped, but he’s always been self serving. Seems to be on an image rehabilitation tour.

[Nick Prango]

It is odd that Sammy is somehow trying to disassociate himself with having flipped, but he’s always been self serving. Seems to be on an image rehabilitation tour.

Yeah he portrays himself like a stand up guy, tough mafioso. It is pathetic. He is full of shit.

[Amershire_Ed]

This sounds crazy but I think Sammy cooperating actually helped Gotti’s image in the long run. Gotti deserved much more of the blame than he got, but Sammy snitching kept that from ever happening. Don’t forget the Feds had less than 100 hours of Gotti wired up at the Ravenite apartment, yet in that relatively short time Gotti incriminated himself and several other people. They had **thousands** of hours of Gravano at two of his offices and not only did he never incriminate anyone, but he never said one negative thing about Gotti. If Sammy woulda just ate the years I think Gotti’s reputation would be different than it is today.

[Amershire_Ed]

I mean seriously if Sammy doesn’t flip, Gotti goes down as the guy that took out a successful and reasonably well liked boss—one that had been hand picked by Carlo freaking Gambino no less. And he goes down as a guy that got several close friends and family members life in prison simply because he wanted everyone to know he was a gangster.