How is prison life for modern day Italian American mobsters? Are they still respected and feared?

[Nick Prango]

This guy Gilli Brando speaks very highly of Vic Amuso in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Den4P46QTaU He was locked up in Beamont Texas with him.

Can you give a time stamp? I can't endure this fucking shit.

At 18:43

Thank you. He really said little about Amuso. Still, the story of how the feds stole Amuso's car and bugged it is interesting.

He said little, but he was totally praising Amuso

[Nick Prango]

No it’s not like the goodfellas shit from 30 years ago. Usually mafia guys are fine because they carry themselves the right way. But they aren’t “running shit” in there.

This guy Icwear Vezzo did time in FCI Eclton, Ohio with LCN guys. He says that Italians were respected there. He speaks very highly of Italian mobsters. In this video he speaks about that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txWNOAu ... l=AlProfit

[givememysocks]

No it’s not like the goodfellas shit from 30 years ago. Usually mafia guys are fine because they carry themselves the right way. But they aren’t “running shit” in there.

This guy Icwear Vezzo did time in FCI Eclton, Ohio with LCN guys. He says that Italians were respected there. He speaks very highly of Italian mobsters. In this video he speaks about that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txWNOAu ... l=AlProfit

He mentions the guy having one arm, gotta be ronnie trucchio hes talking about

[Nick Prango]

No it’s not like the goodfellas shit from 30 years ago. Usually mafia guys are fine because they carry themselves the right way. But they aren’t “running shit” in there.

This guy Icwear Vezzo did time in FCI Eclton, Ohio with LCN guys. He says that Italians were respected there. He speaks very highly of Italian mobsters. In this video he speaks about that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txWNOAu ... l=AlProfit

He mentions the guy having one arm, gotta be ronnie trucchio hes talking about

I thought the same. The ages don’t match up, but he could’ve been lying to throw us off.

[Moscone65]

He said something about him having an mp3 full of rap songs. I highly doubt Ronnie trucchio listens to much rap music

[newera_212]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f66XjcOaY3Q

This is Hootie Russo's new podcast - he has Gene on as a featured guest. Not sure who the other two guys are but thankfully they kept it to a minimum and let Gene and Hootie just bullshit back and forth with one another about insider neighborhood talk for over an hour. Lots and lots of never before heard stuff about Ronnie G and the Trucchio crew, but Hootie confirms that Al Trucchio is 100% shelved now, living on Long Island, and enjoying his money ("he's gotta be worth about $25 mil" says Hootie). Apparently some active wiseguys who Hootie is still in touch with said that Al is a civilian now and he's not under Gambino protection.

Anyway I'm posting this in here, only because Hootie talks about Al and how he was treated in prison. He says that as soon as he touched down in the feds, he was slapped across the mouth immediately by Johnny Joe Spirito (for statements he made in court, which is one of many reasons why he got shelved in the first place). Al wasn't allowed in the Italian's 'car' in prison and that's why all of those prison photos that have been posted of him he was around black guys

[Amershire_Ed]

What was Al shelved for? Didn’t his plea deal kinda fuck over one of the Corrozzo’s or something?

[newera_212]

What was Al shelved for? Didn’t his plea deal kinda fuck over one of the Corrozzo’s or something?

I've listened to a few of these podcasts that this Hootie guy has been on, he's done a number of shows and tells the same story more or less, but with different anecdotes. Between all of those and this last one, he breaks down why Al was shelved. It sounds like it was for a combination of reasons amounting to how he acted as a Capo/made guy in public, plus how he was talking to his bosses, and how he treated his crew members and codefendants.

Supposedly he was bitching the whole time about his situation, complaining too much about being indicted, complaining about being remanded, supposedly paying off Latinos in federal detention to leave him alone. Going behind lawyers and bosses backs to tell other co-defendants to blame everything on Todd LaBarca. The latest thing that Hootie said which was the nail in the coffin, supposedly, is that he stood up in front of the Judge, court reporter, etc. in court and pointed at his other (made men) crew members and said, "these are the guys who took drug money, not me". Also he supposedly he started spreading rumors that Frank Roccaforte was a rat when it was the bosses who gave Frank the go-ahead to sever himself from a global plea deal and plead guilty by himself to start serving his sentence right away.

During the whole thing there was an article that came out in the Daily News and Post that said Al got into a 'beef' with Joe Corrozo the lawyer, and that Corrozo said "so it's every man for himself now, Al?" - now after hearing what this Hootie kid says, that article makes a lot of sense. Apparently when they were all trying to work on a global plea and chop up who was responsible for what, Hootie says Al started to act like he didn't know his crew members (most of whom he grew up with since childhood) and didn't act like how a made guy should. Hootie says that the fact that Al is still shelved in 2021's version of LCN says a lot about him and how much he's hated, especially considering how much money he has and they still won't let him back in.

Another interesting thing that Hootie said on the latest podcast was that during the big 2011 take down day bust, the Gambinos were being ran by a 3 man panel like we knew, but that Vernace was actually functioning as the Boss. I believe he was listed as a Consigliere on all of the charts at the time.

[TommyGambino]

What was Al shelved for? Didn’t his plea deal kinda fuck over one of the Corrozzo’s or something?

I've listened to a few of these podcasts that this Hootie guy has been on, he's done a number of shows and tells the same story more or less, but with different anecdotes. Between all of those and this last one, he breaks down why Al was shelved. It sounds like it was for a combination of reasons amounting to how he acted as a Capo/made guy in public, plus how he was talking to his bosses, and how he treated his crew members and codefendants.

Supposedly he was bitching the whole time about his situation, complaining too much about being indicted, complaining about being remanded, supposedly paying off Latinos in federal detention to leave him alone. Going behind lawyers and bosses backs to tell other co-defendants to blame everything on Todd LaBarca. The latest thing that Hootie said which was the nail in the coffin, supposedly, is that he stood up in front of the Judge, court reporter, etc. in court and pointed at his other (made men) crew members and said, "these are the guys who took drug money, not me". Also he supposedly he started spreading rumors that Frank Roccaforte was a rat when it was the bosses who gave Frank the go-ahead to sever himself from a global plea deal and plead guilty by himself to start serving his sentence right away.

During the whole thing there was an article that came out in the Daily News and Post that said Al got into a 'beef' with Joe Corrozo the lawyer, and that Corrozo said "so it's every man for himself now, Al?" - now after hearing what this Hootie kid says, that article makes a lot of sense. Apparently when they were all trying to work on a global plea and chop up who was responsible for what, Hootie says Al started to act like he didn't know his crew members (most of whom he grew up with since childhood) and didn't act like how a made guy should. Hootie says that the fact that Al is still shelved in 2021's version of LCN says a lot about him and how much he's hated, especially considering how much money he has and they still won't let him back in.

Another interesting thing that Hootie said on the latest podcast was that during the big 2011 take down day bust, the Gambinos were being ran by a 3 man panel like we knew, but that Vernace was actually functioning as the Boss. I believe he was listed as a Consigliere on all of the charts at the time.

He was shaking down Frank roc, that was his best friend's litlle brother no wonder he's hated.

[newera_212]

What was Al shelved for? Didn’t his plea deal kinda fuck over one of the Corrozzo’s or something?

I've listened to a few of these podcasts that this Hootie guy has been on, he's done a number of shows and tells the same story more or less, but with different anecdotes. Between all of those and this last one, he breaks down why Al was shelved. It sounds like it was for a combination of reasons amounting to how he acted as a Capo/made guy in public, plus how he was talking to his bosses, and how he treated his crew members and codefendants.

Supposedly he was bitching the whole time about his situation, complaining too much about being indicted, complaining about being remanded, supposedly paying off Latinos in federal detention to leave him alone. Going behind lawyers and bosses backs to tell other co-defendants to blame everything on Todd LaBarca. The latest thing that Hootie said which was the nail in the coffin, supposedly, is that he stood up in front of the Judge, court reporter, etc. in court and pointed at his other (made men) crew members and said, "these are the guys who took drug money, not me". Also he supposedly he started spreading rumors that Frank Roccaforte was a rat when it was the bosses who gave Frank the go-ahead to sever himself from a global plea deal and plead guilty by himself to start serving his sentence right away.

During the whole thing there was an article that came out in the Daily News and Post that said Al got into a 'beef' with Joe Corrozo the lawyer, and that Corrozo said "so it's every man for himself now, Al?" - now after hearing what this Hootie kid says, that article makes a lot of sense. Apparently when they were all trying to work on a global plea and chop up who was responsible for what, Hootie says Al started to act like he didn't know his crew members (most of whom he grew up with since childhood) and didn't act like how a made guy should. Hootie says that the fact that Al is still shelved in 2021's version of LCN says a lot about him and how much he's hated, especially considering how much money he has and they still won't let him back in.

Another interesting thing that Hootie said on the latest podcast was that during the big 2011 take down day bust, the Gambinos were being ran by a 3 man panel like we knew, but that Vernace was actually functioning as the Boss. I believe he was listed as a Consigliere on all of the charts at the time.

He was shaking down Frank roc, that was his best friend's litlle brother no wonder he's hated.

That was another thing the guy Hootie talked about. He said that Frank Roc wasn't remanded like the rest of them, and alluded to the fact that Frank was supposedly blowing through "crew" money while home on bail - so Al was trying to reign him in I guess. Lotta good info on the podcast but it's all over the place. Worth checking out if you can stomach the co-hosts

[Nick Prango]

What was Al shelved for? Didn’t his plea deal kinda fuck over one of the Corrozzo’s or something?

I've listened to a few of these podcasts that this Hootie guy has been on, he's done a number of shows and tells the same story more or less, but with different anecdotes. Between all of those and this last one, he breaks down why Al was shelved. It sounds like it was for a combination of reasons amounting to how he acted as a Capo/made guy in public, plus how he was talking to his bosses, and how he treated his crew members and codefendants.

Supposedly he was bitching the whole time about his situation, complaining too much about being indicted, complaining about being remanded, supposedly paying off Latinos in federal detention to leave him alone. Going behind lawyers and bosses backs to tell other co-defendants to blame everything on Todd LaBarca. The latest thing that Hootie said which was the nail in the coffin, supposedly, is that he stood up in front of the Judge, court reporter, etc. in court and pointed at his other (made men) crew members and said, "these are the guys who took drug money, not me". Also he supposedly he started spreading rumors that Frank Roccaforte was a rat when it was the bosses who gave Frank the go-ahead to sever himself from a global plea deal and plead guilty by himself to start serving his sentence right away.

During the whole thing there was an article that came out in the Daily News and Post that said Al got into a 'beef' with Joe Corrozo the lawyer, and that Corrozo said "so it's every man for himself now, Al?" - now after hearing what this Hootie kid says, that article makes a lot of sense. Apparently when they were all trying to work on a global plea and chop up who was responsible for what, Hootie says Al started to act like he didn't know his crew members (most of whom he grew up with since childhood) and didn't act like how a made guy should. Hootie says that the fact that Al is still shelved in 2021's version of LCN says a lot about him and how much he's hated, especially considering how much money he has and they still won't let him back in.

Another interesting thing that Hootie said on the latest podcast was that during the big 2011 take down day bust, the Gambinos were being ran by a 3 man panel like we knew, but that Vernace was actually functioning as the Boss. I believe he was listed as a Consigliere on all of the charts at the time.

He was shaking down Frank roc, that was his best friend's litlle brother no wonder he's hated.

That was another thing the guy Hootie talked about. He said that Frank Roc wasn't remanded like the rest of them, and alluded to the fact that Frank was supposedly blowing through "crew" money while home on bail - so Al was trying to reign him in I guess. Lotta good info on the podcast but it's all over the place. Worth checking out if you can stomach the co-hosts

Anthony "Hootie" Russo interviews well, isn’t a dumbass, and seems like a pretty good guy. He’s far better than Gene Borrello

[AntComello]

Just listened to the hootie podcast and Gene says that he hates Ronnie g for “ruining his life” but that he is a legitimate tough guy and that he used to abuse a lot of the gambino guys from Howard beach.

[newera_212]

Just listened to the hootie podcast and Gene says that he hates Ronnie g for “ruining his life” but that he is a legitimate tough guy and that he used to abuse a lot of the gambino guys from Howard beach.

Yeah that was pretty interesting. He's spent a lot of time on these interviews making a lot of his former associates seem like clowns, even trashing Ronnie G at times, but on this one he admitted straight up that Ronnie is the real deal and a solid guy and he's just personally mad at Ronnie for "taking the streets away from him" - at least Gene has the self awareness to come out and admit he has a legit bone to pick with these guys, versus the narrative that some of the others (i.e. Alite) keep alive - where they left on their own because the life had changed and they were the last stand up guys on earth. Hootie more or less has the same stance with Trucchio, but it's weird because in some interviews he paints Trucchio out to be this big pussy, and in others said that Trucchio would be perfect boss material (huge money maker, good leader, took time twice and didn't rat, etc).

[Nick Prango]

Just listened to the hootie podcast and Gene says that he hates Ronnie g for “ruining his life” but that he is a legitimate tough guy and that he used to abuse a lot of the gambino guys from Howard beach.

Yeah that was pretty interesting. He's spent a lot of time on these interviews making a lot of his former associates seem like clowns, even trashing Ronnie G at times, but on this one he admitted straight up that Ronnie is the real deal and a solid guy and he's just personally mad at Ronnie for "taking the streets away from him" - at least Gene has the self awareness to come out and admit he has a legit bone to pick with these guys, versus the narrative that some of the others (i.e. Alite) keep alive - where they left on their own because the life had changed and they were the last stand up guys on earth. Hootie more or less has the same stance with Trucchio, but it's weird because in some interviews he paints Trucchio out to be this big pussy, and in others said that Trucchio would be perfect boss material (huge money maker, good leader, took time twice and didn't rat, etc).

It seems that they both have mixed feelings about their former capos. Gene sometimes sounds like angry ex lover when he talks about Ronnie G.

[Amershire_Ed]

Just listened to the hootie podcast and Gene says that he hates Ronnie g for “ruining his life” but that he is a legitimate tough guy and that he used to abuse a lot of the gambino guys from Howard beach.

Yeah he said “Ronnie took away the only thing I had, which was the streets” but he also acknowledged Ronnie being more than willing to throw hands, and called him an actual tough guy.

Also, one thing I’ll say about Gene. I don’t think he exaggerates his tough guy activities. I just thinks he talks about them a lot to justify his cooperation. I think there is more than enough evidence out there that Gene was willing to engage in a kinda violence that a lotta wiseguys aren’t comfortable with these days. And when Gene talks that stuff up, I’m convinced it has way more to do with excusing his cooperation than it does inflating his street stats. I actually think Gene has a lot of interesting stuff to offer but he’s way too caught up with trying to shit on Franzese and stuff.