Andrew Campos Pleads Gui

[Tonyd621]

I dunno, in a very strange, weird way I was pretty disappointed with this whole bust. These guys were at the forefront of internet fraud before the 2000s even hit. I'd expect them to funding some Bitcoin miners or some other technical shit. Even the way they hid the money was pitiful, Bank of America? No tax havens? You KNOW they didnt hide all that Telephone cramming and porn money in some fuckin jerkoffs Chase account, like WTF?

These guys are no geniuses, they're a crew of street guys above all. Martino was the guy who brought in the millions. Aside from him they don't have the knowledge or connections for the kind of investments and scams you expected them to be involved with.
When the indictment came out I was shocked to read that Ciaccia had been made. Guy is dumb as a box of rocks even by mob standard, not even a tough guy.
The other guy Vinny Fiore caught on tape talking on the phone about crime, schemes, the westside admin...They never learn.
But even more baffling is the fact that Georgie Campos is confirmed as a made guy. I'm not gonna dive head first into a debate about this but he is HISPANIC. Truly incredible.

There's been some debate on here if he is Spanish and it's possible Campos could be italian.

[Shellackhead]

I dunno, in a very strange, weird way I was pretty disappointed with this whole bust. These guys were at the forefront of internet fraud before the 2000s even hit. I'd expect them to funding some Bitcoin miners or some other technical shit. Even the way they hid the money was pitiful, Bank of America? No tax havens? You KNOW they didnt hide all that Telephone cramming and porn money in some fuckin jerkoffs Chase account, like WTF?

These guys are no geniuses, they're a crew of street guys above all. Martino was the guy who brought in the millions. Aside from him they don't have the knowledge or connections for the kind of investments and scams you expected them to be involved with.
When the indictment came out I was shocked to read that Ciaccia had been made. Guy is dumb as a box of rocks even by mob standard, not even a tough guy.
The other guy Vinny Fiore caught on tape talking on the phone about crime, schemes, the westside admin...They never learn.
But even more baffling is the fact that Georgie Campos is confirmed as a made guy. I'm not gonna dive head first into a debate about this but he is HISPANIC. Truly incredible.

There's been some debate on here if he is Spanish and it's possible Campos could be italian.

I heard they were Puerto Rican’s... Campos is a Latino surname.

[CabriniGreen]

In the press release they said the 5 years was what they were subject to..as a max. They go through the whole sentencing report and see what kinda knucklehead you've been and figure out a recommended sentence. I'd say no way they get near the 5. Ciaccia as far as I know, doesn't even have a record, so he might get a slap on the wrist, Georgie the father a bit more "checkered past", so who knows, but even with him, I can't see him getting more than 24-36 months, if that much. Like I said, Andrew they're looking to make an example out of so with his priors, they might go as high as half...120 months, maybe more. I'm just wondering if they're gonna go after his house being that the indictment alleges he used money siphoned off of other jobs to build the house. That'd be a real kick in the ass.

That's why this whole thing just strikes me as extremely dumb. You hustle, to wash your money, to form a company like this one, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE of these Grandfathered in type construction contacts that came from a previous era, SO you can live in your Soprano-esque home with the peace of mind knowing the income is clean. You can claim it on taxes.

But these guys used these contacts to swindle, fuck up the whole operation, and probably gotta give up the homes anyway.....

How much did they bribe the guy for him to risk a 500k a year job? Millions? If not, hes dumb as fuck.
To me, it seems they went full Chrissy, with the fiber optic cable, instead of focusing on the job, and securing the next one, and the NEXT one after that.... now they are on the Feds radar... it's not like they still have the Unions yo use as weapons, right?

I dunno, in a very strange, weird way I was pretty disappointed with this whole bust. These guys were at the forefront of internet fraud before the 2000s even hit. I'd expect them to funding some Bitcoin miners or some other technical shit. Even the way they hid the money was pitiful, Bank of America? No tax havens? You KNOW they didnt hide all that Telephone cramming and porn money in some fuckin jerkoffs Chase account, like WTF?

Made me believe they ( Campos) wernt exactly the masterminds of that internet shit.

There isn’t a major construction project in the area that doesn’t inflate / invent invoices, in all kinds of ways, mob or no mob. Like cheating on your taxes and a steady flow of fast cash

Playing invoice games with materials isnt the same as straight up paying workers under the table on a what, 80 million dollar, kinda high profile job? I dont know how this shit works.... Do the city and state audit the job after? Do all those people file taxes at the end of the year? If so, how do you clean that up? How many tax returns you gotta massage? It seems like you are asking to get caught. Remember, the IRS gotta get their taste from the wages, I wouldnt fuck with that, especially if I dont have a Union to facilitate all that.


They just did everything so brazen and stupid... if the VP guy takes out a home improvement loan, ( He makes 500k a year, he could get one, no?) And the mob gives him the money in a secret account or crypto or whatever, and he pays off the loan slow, do they even get caught at all?

Even Campos with the house, I thought they stole 780 MILLION?! Am I missing something here? I'm really starting to believe it was 80 million, cut up amongst many guys.

It's something Gravano talked about in his book, the greed and stupidity of the construction racketeers. He said beyond steering the contract his way, he just tried to run a great construction business. He didnt SEE the BUSINESS as a hustle. To me, they should be concerned with the NEXT 80-100 million dollar job, overcharging seems to destroy the competitive advantage. You already cheated to get the contract, if you do the job cheaper than everyone else can, you would get more jobs, right? Why not just use nonunion labor? I thought many did this without getting caught up. Is that what they were doing?

[TommyNoto]

In the press release they said the 5 years was what they were subject to..as a max. They go through the whole sentencing report and see what kinda knucklehead you've been and figure out a recommended sentence. I'd say no way they get near the 5. Ciaccia as far as I know, doesn't even have a record, so he might get a slap on the wrist, Georgie the father a bit more "checkered past", so who knows, but even with him, I can't see him getting more than 24-36 months, if that much. Like I said, Andrew they're looking to make an example out of so with his priors, they might go as high as half...120 months, maybe more. I'm just wondering if they're gonna go after his house being that the indictment alleges he used money siphoned off of other jobs to build the house. That'd be a real kick in the ass.

That's why this whole thing just strikes me as extremely dumb. You hustle, to wash your money, to form a company like this one, TO TAKE ADVANTAGE of these Grandfathered in type construction contacts that came from a previous era, SO you can live in your Soprano-esque home with the peace of mind knowing the income is clean. You can claim it on taxes.

But these guys used these contacts to swindle, fuck up the whole operation, and probably gotta give up the homes anyway.....

How much did they bribe the guy for him to risk a 500k a year job? Millions? If not, hes dumb as fuck.
To me, it seems they went full Chrissy, with the fiber optic cable, instead of focusing on the job, and securing the next one, and the NEXT one after that.... now they are on the Feds radar... it's not like they still have the Unions yo use as weapons, right?

I dunno, in a very strange, weird way I was pretty disappointed with this whole bust. These guys were at the forefront of internet fraud before the 2000s even hit. I'd expect them to funding some Bitcoin miners or some other technical shit. Even the way they hid the money was pitiful, Bank of America? No tax havens? You KNOW they didnt hide all that Telephone cramming and porn money in some fuckin jerkoffs Chase account, like WTF?

Made me believe they ( Campos) wernt exactly the masterminds of that internet shit.

There isn’t a major construction project in the area that doesn’t inflate / invent invoices, in all kinds of ways, mob or no mob. Like cheating on your taxes and a steady flow of fast cash

Playing invoice games with materials isnt the same as straight up paying workers under the table on a what, 80 million dollar, kinda high profile job? I dont know how this shit works.... Do the city and state audit the job after? Do all those people file taxes at the end of the year? If so, how do you clean that up? How many tax returns you gotta massage? It seems like you are asking to get caught. Remember, the IRS gotta get their taste from the wages, I wouldnt fuck with that, especially if I dont have a Union to facilitate all that.


They just did everything so brazen and stupid... if the VP guy takes out a home improvement loan, ( He makes 500k a year, he could get one, no?) And the mob gives him the money in a secret account or crypto or whatever, and he pays off the loan slow, do they even get caught at all?

Even Campos with the house, I thought they stole 780 MILLION?! Am I missing something here? I'm really starting to believe it was 80 million, cut up amongst many guys.

It's something Gravano talked about in his book, the greed and stupidity of the construction racketeers. He said beyond steering the contract his way, he just tried to run a great construction business. He didnt SEE the BUSINESS as a hustle. To me, they should be concerned with the NEXT 80-100 million dollar job, overcharging seems to destroy the competitive advantage. You already cheated to get the contract, if you do the job cheaper than everyone else can, you would get more jobs, right? Why not just use nonunion labor? I thought many did this without getting caught up. Is that what they were doing?

Paying off the books or short changing benefits has been a core racket for a long time

[TommyGambino]

New gangland pretty much all about this case