General Chicago Outfit Info Dumping Ground

[Snakes]

Ran across a random file that mentioned guys who were still willing to dirty work (hits) even after assuming positions of authority within the organization:

Sam Giancana
Jack Cerone
Willie Daddano
Phil Alderisio

Thanks. None of these names come as a surprise, of course. What was the source?

Just a random memo with informant information. It didn't have too many other pieces of information that I thought was interesting but I have a bunch of disorganized pages that I was perusing and just found that amusing.

[funkster]

Sorry if this was posted already - Rico "Ricky/Richie" Zuniga died from COVID in prison in November. He was part of the PK Crew and very close with Paul Koruluk and those guys (arrested multiple times with them). He was serving time for the murder of Carmen Sarlo and others along with Richard Bravieri. Richie and his brothers were all CNotes - one brother was shot and killed at an old gang hangout called TJ's on Western Avenue in the late 80s I believe.

https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/ch ... =197158685

Nice find, thanks for posting. Ricky married Paulie K's sister, I believe? I suspect that several of the Zunigas may have been C-Notes. Do you recall which brother was killed in the 80s? I'm not able to find anything in the papers on it. Also, do you remember exactly where TJs was located?

Here's a pic of Ricky Zuniga and Joey Bravieri at the time of the Sarlo/Gasic slayings. According to a witness who fled the scene, after shooting Joannie Gasic they turned on Sarlo: "No, you got to go, Carmie. You got to go, too." These guys were, of course, coked-up out of their skulls when this happened. The C-Notes fell into drugs super hard, and addiction did a lot of damage to the organization.

Zuniga and Joey Bravieri.PNG

These were definitely some rough guys and I remember that story vividly as I spent summers in that neighborhood. Gasic's family still lives there today. Reynald Zuniga was the brother who was killed:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct- ... story.html

Also - Maria Koruluk is Paul's wife - I am not sure if Paul also has a sister named Maria. I believe his wife's maiden name was Vargas - I saw reported she was related to Sam Cecola, but doubt that as she is half puerto rican.

Funny you guys mention this, saw a recent conversation on a fb neighborhood group about it. One of the old neighborhood people mentioned that there was a bar nearby owned by Casey Czaflarski? Supposedly it was named Casey's?

[Villain]

Ran across a random file that mentioned guys who were still willing to dirty work (hits) even after assuming positions of authority within the organization:

Sam Giancana
Jack Cerone
Willie Daddano
Phil Alderisio

Thanks. None of these names come as a surprise, of course. What was the source?

Just a random memo with informant information. It didn't have too many other pieces of information that I thought was interesting but I have a bunch of disorganized pages that I was perusing and just found that amusing.

Wasnt there one situation in which Buccieri also executed a hit by himself while being a capo?

[Antiliar]

Frank Rosenthal told the story of how he stopped Buccieri from choking Tony Spilotro to death, having grabbed him by the throat. Spilotro apparently mouthed off and Rosenthal saved his life.

On a separate note, I'm discovering that one of my favorite Outfit-related books, "All American Mafioso" by Rappleye and Becker, may have made up some facts. This frustrates me because Rappleye was a prize-winning journalist, the book is heavily sourced, and I was in contact with him many years ago, but I just caught these details this week.

[SolarSolano]

Frank Rosenthal told the story of how he stopped Buccieri from choking Tony Spilotro to death, having grabbed him by the throat. Spilotro apparently mouthed off and Rosenthal saved his life.

On a separate note, I'm discovering that one of my favorite Outfit-related books, "All American Mafioso" by Rappleye and Becker, may have made up some facts. This frustrates me because Rappleye was a prize-winning journalist, the book is heavily sourced, and I was in contact with him many years ago, but I just caught these details this week.

Roselli clearly had one of the more interesting mob careers spanning several cities - he ran drugs and did errands in Boston's north end as a kid and I believe fled to Chicago. Seems he worked with bosses across the country and was well-known on the east coast.

[Snakes]

Ran across a random file that mentioned guys who were still willing to dirty work (hits) even after assuming positions of authority within the organization:

Sam Giancana
Jack Cerone
Willie Daddano
Phil Alderisio

Thanks. None of these names come as a surprise, of course. What was the source?

Just a random memo with informant information. It didn't have too many other pieces of information that I thought was interesting but I have a bunch of disorganized pages that I was perusing and just found that amusing.

Wasnt there one situation in which Buccieri also executed a hit by himself while being a capo?

The William Jackson hit, too.

[funkster]

I thought it was Frank who was at the Action Jackson hit, not Fifi?

[Snakes]

I thought it was Frank who was at the Action Jackson hit, not Fifi?

Nah, it was Fifi. Frank never really had a rep as a killer, to my knowledge.

[funkster]

I've only seen the wiretap labeled as such, unless someone has ever seen a different source?


JAMES TORELLO: Jackson was hung up on that meat hook. He was so heavy he bent it. He was on that thing three days before he croaked.

FRANK BUCCIERI (giggling): Jackie, you shoulda seen the guy. Like an elephant, he was, and when Jimmy hit him with that electric prod…

TORELLO (excitedly): He was floppin’ around on that hook, Jackie. We tossed water on him to give the prod a better charge, and he’s screamin’…

[Pogo The Clown]

Well at least they took pleasure in their work.


Pogo

[Snakes]

I've only seen the wiretap labeled as such, unless someone has ever seen a different source?


JAMES TORELLO: Jackson was hung up on that meat hook. He was so heavy he bent it. He was on that thing three days before he croaked.

FRANK BUCCIERI (giggling): Jackie, you shoulda seen the guy. Like an elephant, he was, and when Jimmy hit him with that electric prod…

TORELLO (excitedly): He was floppin’ around on that hook, Jackie. We tossed water on him to give the prod a better charge, and he’s screamin’…

Unless I'm bigly mistaken, I'm almost positive it was Fiore. I think that wherever you got that transcript made a typo.

[PolackTony]

I've only seen the wiretap labeled as such, unless someone has ever seen a different source?


JAMES TORELLO: Jackson was hung up on that meat hook. He was so heavy he bent it. He was on that thing three days before he croaked.

FRANK BUCCIERI (giggling): Jackie, you shoulda seen the guy. Like an elephant, he was, and when Jimmy hit him with that electric prod…

TORELLO (excitedly): He was floppin’ around on that hook, Jackie. We tossed water on him to give the prod a better charge, and he’s screamin’…

Unless I'm bigly mistaken, I'm almost positive it was Fiore. I think that wherever you got that transcript made a typo.

Unless a lot of people have been mistaken, it was Fifi. I don't have the transcripts of the recorded conversation in Miami in front of me, but my understanding was always this was Fifi and Turk recounting the Jackson thing to Cerone and Dave Yaras.

Over the years I've seen people claim that Cerone and Yaras were also among the group that participated in the Jackson killing. Doesn't seem likely, as why would Buccieri and Torello need to tell them about it then? I've also seen people state that Sam Destefano, Alderisio, and Cowboy Mirro participated as well.

What's the best info on who all most likely actually participated?

[Antiliar]

I've only seen the wiretap labeled as such, unless someone has ever seen a different source?


JAMES TORELLO: Jackson was hung up on that meat hook. He was so heavy he bent it. He was on that thing three days before he croaked.

FRANK BUCCIERI (giggling): Jackie, you shoulda seen the guy. Like an elephant, he was, and when Jimmy hit him with that electric prod…

TORELLO (excitedly): He was floppin’ around on that hook, Jackie. We tossed water on him to give the prod a better charge, and he’s screamin’…

Unless I'm bigly mistaken, I'm almost positive it was Fiore. I think that wherever you got that transcript made a typo.

Unless a lot of people have been mistaken, it was Fifi. I don't have the transcripts of the recorded conversation in Miami in front of me, but my understanding was always this was Fifi and Turk recounting the Jackson thing to Cerone and Dave Yaras.

Over the years I've seen people claim that Cerone and Yaras were also among the group that participated in the Jackson killing. Doesn't seem likely, as why would Buccieri and Torello need to tell them about it then? I've also seen people state that Sam Destefano, Alderisio, and Cowboy Mirro participated as well.

What's the best info on who all most likely actually participated?

Life magazine did a story on it with photos and transcripts (and yes, it was Fifi):
https://books.google.com/books?id=a08EA ... ne&f=false

[PolackTony]

I've only seen the wiretap labeled as such, unless someone has ever seen a different source?


JAMES TORELLO: Jackson was hung up on that meat hook. He was so heavy he bent it. He was on that thing three days before he croaked.

FRANK BUCCIERI (giggling): Jackie, you shoulda seen the guy. Like an elephant, he was, and when Jimmy hit him with that electric prod…

TORELLO (excitedly): He was floppin’ around on that hook, Jackie. We tossed water on him to give the prod a better charge, and he’s screamin’…

Unless I'm bigly mistaken, I'm almost positive it was Fiore. I think that wherever you got that transcript made a typo.

Unless a lot of people have been mistaken, it was Fifi. I don't have the transcripts of the recorded conversation in Miami in front of me, but my understanding was always this was Fifi and Turk recounting the Jackson thing to Cerone and Dave Yaras.

Over the years I've seen people claim that Cerone and Yaras were also among the group that participated in the Jackson killing. Doesn't seem likely, as why would Buccieri and Torello need to tell them about it then? I've also seen people state that Sam Destefano, Alderisio, and Cowboy Mirro participated as well.

What's the best info on who all most likely actually participated?

Life magazine did a story on it with photos and transcripts (and yes, it was Fifi):
https://books.google.com/books?id=a08EA ... ne&f=false

Thanks, I hadn't seen that before.

[funkster]

No idea, I've only ever seen them labeled as such. No idea where they would have gotten it from or how it would have been labeled incorrectly.