New Pennisi Article

[dack2001]

15k per month, essentially tax free, isn't anything to sneeze at. Will afford you a nice living, not wealthy per se but pretty comfortable.

[Pmac2]

I could live ok on 5k amonth. 60k a year. You dont have kids you'll be fine. Have to drive the Camry not a lexus ect

[scagghiuni]

Fascinating part about Pennisi meeting up with the 'ndrangheta group and them lining up in age from youngest to oldest.

Says the US mafia doesn't have to recognize Sicilian mafia, but the phrasing implies they have a choice. Says guys from Sicily can be "inducted" into the five families to be recognized. I wonder if he's aware of transfers still going on in the Gambino family, like Felice posted, and Calogero Ganci's 1990s testimony. Pennisi says the Gambino family is bringing guys over from Sicily and inducting them to this day.

i dont think the gambino family is bringing guys from sicily, it inductes who is already living over there, there are several sicilian mafia members in the states

[newera_212]

I loved the podcast. Pennisi is my new favorite rat for a lot of reasons. For one, the new info on current / modern times. Two, he hasn't once made himself out to be bigger than he was, nor does he really speak about people or the life with animosity or contempt.

His historical knowledge of the mob makes me think he's an avid reader / watcher and may even read forums. He knows about certain things the way we do. A street guy from a different era and family to be talking about how Chin didn't take money from his Capos, etc... that doesn't seem like something he'd be sitting around discussing with his crew while he was active; you can tell he's researched LCN to some degree.

I can see why there was a falling out between him and his crew. His level of caution and circumvention was above and beyond probably anything those guys had ever seen. It was almost like he was willing to take no risks at all and left money on the table, almost the opposite of what everyone around him was about. Being his Capo was probably frustrating

I also like how he all but admitted that him being made as fast as he was, was odd. We've all said on here that how and when and why he was made is kind of baffling so to hear him admit that personally was funny.

Idk- he doesn't seem like a bad guy. Gives a great interview, seems humble, etc. wouldnt mind hearing more from him

[mafiastudent]

I loved the podcast. Pennisi is my new favorite rat for a lot of reasons. For one, the new info on current / modern times. Two, he hasn't once made himself out to be bigger than he was, nor does he really speak about people or the life with animosity or contempt.

His historical knowledge of the mob makes me think he's an avid reader / watcher and may even read forums. He knows about certain things the way we do. A street guy from a different era and family to be talking about how Chin didn't take money from his Capos, etc... that doesn't seem like something he'd be sitting around discussing with his crew while he was active; you can tell he's researched LCN to some degree.

I can see why there was a falling out between him and his crew. His level of caution and circumvention was above and beyond probably anything those guys had ever seen. It was almost like he was willing to take no risks at all and left money on the table, almost the opposite of what everyone around him was about. Being his Capo was probably frustrating

I also like how he all but admitted that him being made as fast as he was, was odd. We've all said on here that how and when and why he was made is kind of baffling so to hear him admit that personally was funny.

Idk- he doesn't seem like a bad guy. Gives a great interview, seems humble, etc. wouldnt mind hearing more from him

I was going to keep my mouth shut...but I think a guy who burned his girlfriend's hair and knocked out her teeth might contradict the "he doesn't seem like a bad guy" theory. Just sayin.

[Pogo The Clown]

I was going to keep my mouth shut...but I think a guy who burned his girlfriend's hair and knocked out her teeth might contradict the "he doesn't seem like a bad guy" theory. Just sayin.

Depends what she did.


Pogo

[slimshady_007]

I loved the podcast. Pennisi is my new favorite rat for a lot of reasons. For one, the new info on current / modern times. Two, he hasn't once made himself out to be bigger than he was, nor does he really speak about people or the life with animosity or contempt.

His historical knowledge of the mob makes me think he's an avid reader / watcher and may even read forums. He knows about certain things the way we do. A street guy from a different era and family to be talking about how Chin didn't take money from his Capos, etc... that doesn't seem like something he'd be sitting around discussing with his crew while he was active; you can tell he's researched LCN to some degree.

I can see why there was a falling out between him and his crew. His level of caution and circumvention was above and beyond probably anything those guys had ever seen. It was almost like he was willing to take no risks at all and left money on the table, almost the opposite of what everyone around him was about. Being his Capo was probably frustrating

I also like how he all but admitted that him being made as fast as he was, was odd. We've all said on here that how and when and why he was made is kind of baffling so to hear him admit that personally was funny.

Idk- he doesn't seem like a bad guy. Gives a great interview, seems humble, etc. wouldnt mind hearing more from him

I agree with what you said about Pennisi being humble. He’s not doin the “Im the last tough guy” bs that Borello and Alite like to do. His stories seem to be legit.

[Gabagool718]

John P is definitely legit he gives the best insight into the life that we have heard in the past 20 years

[jimmi_beans8]

! 718 agreed no one else could give any relation to stevie stories
updated info
great point also Pmac2

[Stroccos]

15k per month, essentially tax free, isn't anything to sneeze at. Will afford you a nice living, not wealthy per se but pretty comfortable.

in nyc is that really that much ? they pay janiotors 100k there, in the midwest in most areas you would be doing quite well on 15k a month

[chubby]

I listened to 2 episodes of the podcast he was on that was on YouTube. I can’t remember the name now though.. his mob Career seemed really strange... seems like he wasn’t even motivated to even earn... and now I understand his point of view about how cautious he was.. but it gets to a point where it’s like man if you’re really that concerned about possibly getting caught up with law enforcement, then you just shouldn’t be in the life in the first place... like him saying he split a half sheet and had 2 gamblers under him? Lol wtf??? I don’t know, to me it seemed like it didn’t even want to be made, or commit crime... that’s honestly how it sounds...
quick question that I’m super curious about... when him and all his boys all got knocked the fuck out by Ralph balsamo and his crew at the strip club, they mention that Ralph was with a west side soldier named jamie (i think) and that he was made but was officially on the shelf.... if he was on the shelf then why was Ralph still letting him hang around and participate with his crew??? If you’re shelved I thought you basically are no longer looked at or respected as a member.... so I’m surprised that he would still be hanging around... can anyone answer that for me??? I’m way curious...

[chin_gigante]

I listened to 2 episodes of the podcast he was on that was on YouTube. I can’t remember the name now though.. his mob Career seemed really strange... seems like he wasn’t even motivated to even earn... and now I understand his point of view about how cautious he was.. but it gets to a point where it’s like man if you’re really that concerned about possibly getting caught up with law enforcement, then you just shouldn’t be in the life in the first place... like him saying he split a half sheet and had 2 gamblers under him? Lol wtf??? I don’t know, to me it seemed like it didn’t even want to be made, or commit crime... that’s honestly how it sounds...
quick question that I’m super curious about... when him and all his boys all got knocked the fuck out by Ralph balsamo and his crew at the strip club, they mention that Ralph was with a west side soldier named jamie (i think) and that he was made but was officially on the shelf.... if he was on the shelf then why was Ralph still letting him hang around and participate with his crew??? If you’re shelved I thought you basically are no longer looked at or respected as a member.... so I’m surprised that he would still be hanging around... can anyone answer that for me??? I’m way curious...

He also said Dom Truscello was hanging around Anthony Grado despite the fact that he was on the shelf so it seems like it might be more common than expected

[johnny_scootch]

I listened to 2 episodes of the podcast he was on that was on YouTube. I can’t remember the name now though.. his mob Career seemed really strange... seems like he wasn’t even motivated to even earn... and now I understand his point of view about how cautious he was.. but it gets to a point where it’s like man if you’re really that concerned about possibly getting caught up with law enforcement, then you just shouldn’t be in the life in the first place... like him saying he split a half sheet and had 2 gamblers under him? Lol wtf??? I don’t know, to me it seemed like it didn’t even want to be made, or commit crime... that’s honestly how it sounds...
quick question that I’m super curious about... when him and all his boys all got knocked the fuck out by Ralph balsamo and his crew at the strip club, they mention that Ralph was with a west side soldier named jamie (i think) and that he was made but was officially on the shelf.... if he was on the shelf then why was Ralph still letting him hang around and participate with his crew??? If you’re shelved I thought you basically are no longer looked at or respected as a member.... so I’m surprised that he would still be hanging around... can anyone answer that for me??? I’m way curious...

It depends how far back on the shelf they put you, some guys end up banished forever and others get back in.

[johnny_scootch]

I also recall from LCNBios that Pete Lovaglio would meet with Joe Cammarano while Pete was shelved.

[B.]

It also came out in a recent Colombo case that a shelved member was in contact with active members at a wedding.

My understanding is a shelved member can still interact with members socially but can't talk to them about the organization and they receive no representation. I'm sure the level of social contact they have with members depends on who they are, who they know, where they live, and how serious their infractions were.

One interesting thing Sal Vitale testified about is how a ranking member can be shelved and keep his rank. For example, an underboss or captain could be shelved and would still be an underboss or captain, then when he was taken off the shelf he'd resume his duties. He didn't give any examples and you'd think if someone committed a serious enough infraction to be shelved they'd also be demoted.

Vitale wasn't officially shelved, but it sounds like the above more or less applied to him. He kept his rank but his duties were essentially taken away. Similar thing happened to Ignazio Denaro in Philadelphia.