Franzese discusses made date

[JeremyTheJew]

https://youtu.be/CAyT55dQ3wU

Alot debate about franzese about his making date... halfway thru this video he says the books WERE OPEN early 70s.

he brought up fish cafaro as evidence also

[thekiduknow]

Interesting that he says "Oh someone says this and someone says that", dismissing the fact that the books opened up in 1976, then just gives what Cafaro says as evidence that the books were open in the early 70s. There are other made guys who got there induction dates wrong, like Sal Vitale and Louie Tartaglione for example.

LCNBios writes about his ceremony and why October 1978 is the actual date of his induction.

[thekiduknow]

https://lcnbios.blogspot.com/2018/12/co ... 1970s.html

Forgot to post the link

[Eline2015]

Franzese in 80s after arrest: I just running a gasoline scum with Russian mob, I don’t know nothing
Franzese in 2020: let me tell you another story...

[JMAN723]

Andrew Russo was made in early 76 and he was Franzese’s captain so I always believed he was really made in 77/78

[TommyGambino]

Why does he have to lie about everything

[newera_212]

https://lcnbios.blogspot.com/2018/12/co ... 1970s.html

Forgot to post the link

this is awesome. i never saw this before. crazy to see how active and involved Alphonse Persico was. look how many guys he sponsored

[Shellackhead]

Lol, where are the 5 guys that were murdered within 5 years at? Some died in a span of 15 years, another one is still alive, and another One flipped

[newera_212]

also i know some people are inherently bad with their own little things; names, faces, directions, dates, etc.

but... how could someone not remember the date, or jesus ... even the year...of their making ceremony. especially when a big part of your identity was centered on you being a mob member

makes no sense

[Shellackhead]

also i know some people are inherently bad with their own little things; names, faces, directions, dates, etc.

but... how could someone not remember the date, or jesus ... even the year...of their making ceremony. especially when a big part of your identity was centered on you being a mob member

makes no sense

And how he says it with so much security, “Halloween Night 1975 I became a made member of the mafia.”

[newera_212]

also i know some people are inherently bad with their own little things; names, faces, directions, dates, etc.

but... how could someone not remember the date, or jesus ... even the year...of their making ceremony. especially when a big part of your identity was centered on you being a mob member

makes no sense

And how he says it with so much security, “Halloween Night 1975 I became a made member of the mafia.”

to add more confusion to it, i can legitimately see people being made before the books were opened. especially in the Colombos who were down to under 100 guys, fractured, and kind of in a transition period. I just believe Miciotta and others, over Franzese

[Antiliar]

Why does he have to lie about everything

A lie is a deliberate action to deceive. He's been consistent with a date of Halloween 1975, so he appears to sincerely believe it. If he's wrong, then he's just mistaken.

[CabriniGreen]

also i know some people are inherently bad with their own little things; names, faces, directions, dates, etc.

but... how could someone not remember the date, or jesus ... even the year...of their making ceremony. especially when a big part of your identity was centered on you being a mob member

makes no sense

The thing is, he said it wasnt though. He said other guys got made and started strutting around, like Chris on the Sopranos. He said he just went to work like it was a regular day. Same when he became capo, he said functionally, for years, he basically was already a capo. He didnt FEEL any different....

[newera_212]

also i know some people are inherently bad with their own little things; names, faces, directions, dates, etc.

but... how could someone not remember the date, or jesus ... even the year...of their making ceremony. especially when a big part of your identity was centered on you being a mob member

makes no sense

The thing is, he said it wasnt though. He said other guys got made and started strutting around, like Chris on the Sopranos. He said he just went to work like it was a regular day. Same when he became capo, he said functionally, for years, he basically was already a capo. He didnt FEEL any different....

well, if it wasn't back then...then it certainly is now. i dont think hes done a video, appearance, or any sort of interview without mentioning the words mafia and boss, basically ever. i see your point though...if it was just business as usual for him then i guess i can see why he’d be potentially mixing up the dates

[Pete]

Why does he have to lie about everything

A lie is a deliberate action to deceive. He's been consistent with a date of Halloween 1975, so he appears to sincerely believe it. If he's wrong, then he's just mistaken.

If you read joe Massinos testimony he said books were opened in 75 which goes with what franzese said