dreww wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:48 pm
I cringe so bad whenever Alite says, “it’s for the kids.” And Gene Borrello is a punk scum bag who you cannot convince me was a legitimate OC guy. He’s a street thug, and nothing more. Any guy who commits a home invasion, unless it’s to take out a child predator or someone who’s hurt your family, is bottom of the barrel and should rot in prison.
The "It's for the kids" line is a bunch of BS. It's become almost an afterthought. What "kids" are they referring to anyway?
As for Borrello, I guess it depends on what you mean by a "legitimate OC guy." He was an associate. Had family who were members or associates of the Gambinos back in the day. With Ronnie G's crew. But he was typical blue collar worker bee. He basically did collections, payouts and general strong arm work for the crew, while doing his own robberies on the side.
He's never claimed to be made when he wasn't. Though he does say Vinny Asaro wanted him made before Vinny went to prison but Ronnie nixed it. One of the reasons for Gene's eternal hatred for him.
dreww wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:48 pm
I cringe so bad whenever Alite says, “it’s for the kids.” And Gene Borrello is a punk scum bag who you cannot convince me was a legitimate OC guy. He’s a street thug, and nothing more. Any guy who commits a home invasion, unless it’s to take out a child predator or someone who’s hurt your family, is bottom of the barrel and should rot in prison.
The "It's for the kids" line is a bunch of BS. It's become almost an afterthought. What "kids" are they referring to anyway?
As for Borrello, I guess it depends on what you mean by a "legitimate OC guy." He was an associate. Had family who were members or associates of the Gambinos back in the day. With Ronnie G's crew. But he was typical blue collar worker bee. He basically did collections, payouts and general strong arm work for the crew, while doing his own robberies on the side.
He's never claimed to be made when he wasn't. Though he does say Vinny Asaro wanted him made before Vinny went to prison but Ronnie nixed it. One of the reasons for Gene's eternal hatred for him.
Yeah my issue with Gene is his obsession with Franzese. Don’t get me wrong I think Franzese has inflated his stats so to speak. But the way Gene talks about him, it just seems so....promotional. Like a rapper trying to start beef with someone more popular for record sales. He’s tried to squeeze a dig into Franzese in almost every interview they’ve done.
Hootie said in his interview with Bek that Gene was being recruited by crews in the Gambino and Genovese family before he decided to go with Ronnie. I don’t doubt Gene was willing to put in work. I mean the one hit he was sent on, he was the backup shooter and ended up being the only guy shooting because the other guy froze up. I just think A) he clearly misses the life and B) he should let the Franzese stuff go
dack2001 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:48 am
Agree that the information about Rubeo and the podcast was out there but Jerry did add the judges harsh reaction and filings and the Fed's reaction as well. All of that was not something reported previously.
Amershire_Ed wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:09 pmYeah my issue with Gene is his obsession with Franzese. Don’t get me wrong I think Franzese has inflated his stats so to speak. But the way Gene talks about him, it just seems so....promotional. Like a rapper trying to start beef with someone more popular for record sales. He’s tried to squeeze a dig into Franzese in almost every interview they’ve done.
Hootie said in his interview with Bek that Gene was being recruited by crews in the Gambino and Genovese family before he decided to go with Ronnie. I don’t doubt Gene was willing to put in work. I mean the one hit he was sent on, he was the backup shooter and ended up being the only guy shooting because the other guy froze up. I just think A) he clearly misses the life and B) he should let the Franzese stuff go
Yeah, I don't know why he singles out Franzese. If you're going to rant about other rats spewing BS, there are many besides him. Including one he sits next to every show.
dreww wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:48 pm
I cringe so bad whenever Alite says, “it’s for the kids.” And Gene Borrello is a punk scum bag who you cannot convince me was a legitimate OC guy. He’s a street thug, and nothing more. Any guy who commits a home invasion, unless it’s to take out a child predator or someone who’s hurt your family, is bottom of the barrel and should rot in prison.
The "It's for the kids" line is a bunch of BS. It's become almost an afterthought. What "kids" are they referring to anyway?
As for Borrello, I guess it depends on what you mean by a "legitimate OC guy." He was an associate. Had family who were members or associates of the Gambinos back in the day. With Ronnie G's crew. But he was typical blue collar worker bee. He basically did collections, payouts and general strong arm work for the crew, while doing his own robberies on the side.
He's never claimed to be made when he wasn't. Though he does say Vinny Asaro wanted him made before Vinny went to prison but Ronnie nixed it. One of the reasons for Gene's eternal hatred for him.
Totally agree with you on the doing it for the kids routine. Not a single knucklehead looking to get involved in the mafia in 2020 will stop because of anything Gene or John says lol.
In my opinion, Gene’s hatred for Ronnie G is also getting to the point of being just as laughable. Gene admits to having a robbery/home invasion crew on the side and also in a recent podcast admitted to having a drug business on the side as well. I’m not buying anything Gene says about Ronnie blocking him from getting made due to jealously or ego or anything like that. Gene was a cowboy and guys like him can get blocked from being made for those reasons alone, but Gene refuses to admit that he was not qualified for membership because he was a drug dealer and a home invader.
Rubio did the same thing for that matter where he casually let slip he was selling drugs but then still blames Patsy for not helping him when he got arrested. What do these morons think? Patsy or Ronnie is going to help out an associate who is running around the neighborhood robbing people’s houses against the rules and selling drugs behind their back?
Gene was never going to be made.He didnt even have a racket and wasnt even given a no show job.Ronnie just used him and kept selling him the lie that he was going to be made one day so he could keep gene as his slave.What young Italian kid wanting to get into the life is going to listen to an albanian rat and a guy who wasnt made rat when most likley a kid getting into the life probably has family in the life.
Gene is enraged because hes figured out he was used (the fbi must of told him because he was too stupid to realize).Now he cant make money off his podcasts because Micheal Franceze is the least of his competition.Hes literally competing with every single type of entertainment know to man,I could go on youtube now and find a stamp collecting documentary then watch a play through of the new assasins creed game,My point is these guys probably thought they were going to get rich off youtube and not have to get a job but now its unraveling
He said he had a union job through a relative on one of the earlier episodes. I think it’s obvious though from watching these shows that he still has the itch.
When they had Luisi and Arilotta on, Gene tried to kind of entice the other guys to say no one really respected you unless you were a shooter. He was subliminally trying to get them to take a shot at Franzese, but all of them, even Alite, was like “the ultimate gangsters were shooters *and* earners”, and you could kinda tell Gene was deflated that they didn’t pick up on what he was trying to get at.
Amershire_Ed wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:41 pm
He said he had a union job through a relative on one of the earlier episodes. I think it’s obvious though from watching these shows that he still has the itch.
When they had Luisi and Arilotta on, Gene tried to kind of entice the other guys to say no one really respected you unless you were a shooter. He was subliminally trying to get them to take a shot at Franzese, but all of them, even Alite, was like “the ultimate gangsters were shooters *and* earners”, and you could kinda tell Gene was deflated that they didn’t pick up on what he was trying to get at.
Lol that was the funniest part when gene is trying to get them to agree with him. And they basically didnt know wtf hes even really talking about.
And then hes constantly saying"ppl are allways so surprised about the crimes iv committed " pretty much trying to get the point of how ruthless and tough he is...
But the crazy thing is... Micheal franz.... okay maybe he didnt kill anyone... but he also made MILLIONS .... or whatever.... a week/month which no doubt quadrupled what gene ever made.
Gene constantly has to talk shit on Micheal bc Micheal isnt counted as a snitch like at the end of the day gene is.
Amershire_Ed wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:41 pm
He said he had a union job through a relative on one of the earlier episodes. I think it’s obvious though from watching these shows that he still has the itch.
When they had Luisi and Arilotta on, Gene tried to kind of entice the other guys to say no one really respected you unless you were a shooter. He was subliminally trying to get them to take a shot at Franzese, but all of them, even Alite, was like “the ultimate gangsters were shooters *and* earners”, and you could kinda tell Gene was deflated that they didn’t pick up on what he was trying to get at.
Lol that was the funniest part when gene is trying to get them to agree with him. And they basically didnt know wtf hes even really talking about.
And then hes constantly saying"ppl are allways so surprised about the crimes iv committed " pretty much trying to get the point of how ruthless and tough he is...
But the crazy thing is... Micheal franz.... okay maybe he didnt kill anyone... but he also made MILLIONS .... or whatever.... a week/month which no doubt quadrupled what gene ever made.
Gene constantly has to talk shit on Micheal bc Micheal isnt counted as a snitch like at the end of the day gene is.
Micheal probably did kill someone.He got made in the mid 70s and his father also probably forced him.
I believe he drove a backup car in a hit back in the 1970s. Salvatore Miciotta, who took part in the murder, implicated Franzese in it.
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Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:36 am
I believe he drove a backup car in a hit back in the 1970s. Salvatore Miciotta, who took part in the murder, implicated Franzese in it.
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And it wasn’t necessarily mob related, correct? Wasn’t it the guy who was selling drugs to a family member or something?
Pmac2 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:56 pm
Agreed. What does he stock shelves at target at night. He probaly wishes he just did the time
He was apparently looking at 40 years Thats what the feds told him and the fucking idiot believed them.The feds will tell you your looking at 10 years if you steal a pencil if they want you to flip.The reason they didn't let him apparently copout to 20 years is because they didn't give a fuck about him the real prize was Vinny and Ronnie.A low level thug like gene is no prize for the FBI.Also i dont believe gene offered to do 20 years i think 10 years would of been the copout.Their was no murders or high level drug kingpin status on his resume so why would he do 40 years.He was realistically looking at 15 years he would of been out in 13. Ronnie who was a millionaire capo got 14
Pmac2 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:56 pm
Agreed. What does he stock shelves at target at night. He probaly wishes he just did the time
He was apparently looking at 40 years Thats what the feds told him and the fucking idiot believed them.The feds will tell you your looking at 10 years if you steal a pencil if they want you to flip.The reason they didn't let him apparently copout to 20 years is because they didn't give a fuck about him the real prize was Vinny and Ronnie.A low level thug like gene is no prize for the FBI.Also i dont believe gene offered to do 20 years i think 10 years would of been the copout.Their was no murders or high level drug kingpin status on his resume so why would he do 40 years.He was realistically looking at 15 years he would of been out in 13. Ronnie who was a millionaire capo got 14
Itd be nice for someone to be able to post that info for all the snitch bs talking he be doing....itd be nice for him to get called out once in a while
