Patriarca induction ceremonies?

[mike68]

John Scarpelli and Tore Marino were made with Louis D according to Gangster Report.

[Pogo The Clown]

This document has Salemme being made earlier.


viewtopic.php?f=32&t=5565&p=133276&hili ... me#p133276


Dones anyone have anything on his testifying that he was made in July 1987?


We can add Albino Folcarelli as a possible for the post 2011 ceremonies. He was Identified as proposed when he was indicted 2011. He out of prison in 2017.

Post 2011:
Lee Rizzo

Where did this guy come from?

If I remember right Stroccos discovered him in a document.


Pogo

[Lefty_Ruggiero]

Robert "Bobby" DeLuca was also inducted on October 29, 1989.

[Stroccos]

This document has Salemme being made earlier.


viewtopic.php?f=32&t=5565&p=133276&hili ... me#p133276


Dones anyone have anything on his testifying that he was made in July 1987?


We can add Albino Folcarelli as a possible for the post 2011 ceremonies. He was Identified as proposed when he was indicted 2011. He out of prison in 2017.

Post 2011:
Lee Rizzo

Where did this guy come from?

If I remember right Stroccos discovered him in a document.


Pogo

pogo Lee rizzo was made way before 2011 as he was made by at least 2003 where the fbi ids him as made ,

where the books open in boston before 76?

[furiofromnaples]

I read that Ray sr doesnt want to made Salemme because he are irish from mother side.

[Pogo The Clown]

where the books open in boston before 76?

Not sure. They did make Bianco in the early 1960s so it doesn't seem the book closing from 1957-1975 affected them.


Pogo

[Pmac2]

Theres a book maybe hard to find think it's a local new england book. It's written by a former federal attorney. Thinks it's called friends of the family. It's all about the corruption in the fbi back in the 60tt to 90tys. They publish salemme testimony in front of Congress from like 03 04 about corrupt cops. That's where he says ray jr summons him down to providence less them 3 months from when hes released from prison for blowing up the lawyer who represented Barbosa. He gets inducted in july 87 and gives some corny speech to congress how hes the kings rite hand man in boston. And it pisses off jr russo an them. Ray also wanted to take out vinny f because he thought he would flip. Because that's rite around when phil leonetti flipped in 87b88. Started the rift between the 2 factions. I'll try to find the book

[Pogo The Clown]

Thanks for the info.


Pogo

[Stroccos]

where the books open in boston before 76?

Not sure. They did make Bianco in the early 1960s so it doesn't seem the book closing from 1957-1975 affected them.


Pogo

fred Simone was on made apx 1970 he said on tape he had been a member for 30 years in the year 2000

[Pogo The Clown]

Thanks. Simone would have been 19 in 1970 so he was probably exaggerating by a few years.


Pogo

[Pmac2]

Seems strange to. 1970 ray sr is like 2yrs into his 10 year federal bid. Hes in Atlanta around that time and is under indictment in rhode island for all types of stuff. When ray jr and all those other guys from there are inducting in 1977 I'm thinking since boston was always the larger side of the family they probaly inducted 12 guys from around boston in 77. Jerry was firmly in charge. Ray just got out and gave him a long leash. What's weird around 1980 nick bianco is acting boss for ray sr and Jerry's brother is on wiretap confused as who has more authority his brother jerry or nick.

[Stroccos]

Thanks. Simone would have been 19 in 1970 so he was probably exaggerating by a few years.


Pogo

good point

[BeatiPaoli]

To Everyone: There is an article that appeared in the Boston Herald on 2/13/97 entitled "Ceremony is sign that Mob fortunes may be on the rise"
written by Joe Heaney. It reports that a "secret initiation ceremony occurred in Massachusetts last year" (which would be 1996) at which Joseph Achille and Alfred Scivola were made. No other names of possible/potential initiates at that ceremony in the article. Just FYI.

Regards,
BeatiPaoli

[davidf1989]

Would Joe Black Lamattina have known Salemme and Flemmi?

This article with the link below from Scott Burnstein says that he wanted to kill Salemme Jr until Flemmi persuaded him not to.

https://gangsterreport.com/witness-bost ... g-rip-off/

[furiofromnaples]

https://gangsterreport.com/when-where-d ... rovidence/

February 13, 2022 — With Boston crime reporter extraordinaire Howie Carr releasing FBI documents at his disposal a few years ago, the question of exactly how one-time New England mafia boss Francis (Cadillac Frank) Salemme received his “button” and official induction into the Patriarca crime family, came into play.
FBI informant Stevie (The Rifleman) Flemmi, a powerful and dangerous underworld figure in Boston from the 1970s until his arrest in 1995, told the government that Salemme was made into the mafia at a ceremony in Boston’s North End in 1980 during a weekend furlough from state prison.