There's nobody in California to collect anyway. New York/New Jersey will be about the only place that will still take place and it will be in those neighborhoods where the mob has a significant enough presence.Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:27 pm I doubt there are drug dealers anywhere kicking up to the Italian mob anymore. Definitely NO ONE in Cali. If any Italian wiseguy approached someone out here and tried to shake him down he would get laughed at...at best.
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Re: St.Louis Crime Family
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Re: St.Louis Crime Family
Not necessarily their "height", as we don't have inside sources from that time, but this covers them in the late 1960s and we go into some other historical discussion:JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:14 pm Can anyone go over STL hist at there height??
I know there was a BMF sister group in STL but obviously different ....
Giordano Family right??
And Egan's rats
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4109
Maybe if he was from Terrasini, but Giordano is a common name all around. The St. Louis Giordanos/Giardanos were from Detroit and connected to the Detroit family via their heritage. One source said the Giordano brothers were related to the Detroit leadership.PolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:18 pm This doesn't relate to current/recent STL. But I wonder if ahyone knows if the STL Giordanos had any family links to Chicago Heights. There was a Chris Giordano in the 30's that was part of the remaining Sicilian faction in the Heights with the Castelli and DiGiovanni Bros. Would be interesting to know if he had any connections to Tony Giordano, even if just from back in the old country.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't think the guy I asked about was related as he was Agrigentese.B. wrote: ↑Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:47 amNot necessarily their "height", as we don't have inside sources from that time, but this covers them in the late 1960s and we go into some other historical discussion:JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:14 pm Can anyone go over STL hist at there height??
I know there was a BMF sister group in STL but obviously different ....
Giordano Family right??
And Egan's rats
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=4109
Maybe if he was from Terrasini, but Giordano is a common name all around. The St. Louis Giordanos/Giardanos were from Detroit and connected to the Detroit family via their heritage. One source said the Giordano brothers were related to the Detroit leadership.PolackTony wrote: ↑Fri Sep 18, 2020 1:18 pm This doesn't relate to current/recent STL. But I wonder if ahyone knows if the STL Giordanos had any family links to Chicago Heights. There was a Chris Giordano in the 30's that was part of the remaining Sicilian faction in the Heights with the Castelli and DiGiovanni Bros. Would be interesting to know if he had any connections to Tony Giordano, even if just from back in the old country.
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Re: St.Louis Crime Family
A chart I put together from the information b. was able to dig up.
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St. Louis Circa 1968 (Total 22 or 23 made members)
Administration:
Boss: Anthony Giardano
UnderBoss: John Vitale
Consigliere: Giovanni Ferrara
Capos:
James Giammanco
Soldiers:
Vince Biondo (Circa 1963)
Frank Bommarito
Ralph Caleca
Joseph Cammarata
Anthony DiMartino
Vincent Filippello
Anthony Giammanco
Joseph Giardano
Salvatore “Sam” Giardano
Anthony Lopiparo
Giovanni Mirabella
Anthony Miceli
Frank Pisciotta
Possible Members:
Vito Cusumano
Sam Guccione
?Phillip Mirabella
Deceased Members:
Frank “Greenie Frank” Agrusa (D/1946) (Killed) (Former Boss)
Gaetano "Tom" Buffa (D/1947) (Killed) (Former Boss)
Sam Buffa
Vincenzo Chiapetta (D/1950) (Pueblo Member?)
Pete Corrado
Mariano Costa
Joseph Geloso
Vito Giannola (D/1927) (Killed) (Former Boss)
Anthony “Tony Lap” LoPiparo (D/1960) (Former Boss)
Pasquale Miceli (Former Boss)
Alphonse Palazzolo (D/1926/7) (Killed) (Former Boss)
Alphonse Pazzalo
Charles Ruffino
Calogero SanFilippo
Frank Sicola (D/1922) (Killed)
Antonino Triolo (Early Boss?)
Gaetano “Big Tom” Viviano (D/1934) (Former Boss?)
Sam Viviano
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St. Louis Circa 1968 (Total 22 or 23 made members)
Administration:
Boss: Anthony Giardano
UnderBoss: John Vitale
Consigliere: Giovanni Ferrara
Capos:
James Giammanco
Soldiers:
Vince Biondo (Circa 1963)
Frank Bommarito
Ralph Caleca
Joseph Cammarata
Anthony DiMartino
Vincent Filippello
Anthony Giammanco
Joseph Giardano
Salvatore “Sam” Giardano
Anthony Lopiparo
Giovanni Mirabella
Anthony Miceli
Frank Pisciotta
Possible Members:
Vito Cusumano
Sam Guccione
?Phillip Mirabella
Deceased Members:
Frank “Greenie Frank” Agrusa (D/1946) (Killed) (Former Boss)
Gaetano "Tom" Buffa (D/1947) (Killed) (Former Boss)
Sam Buffa
Vincenzo Chiapetta (D/1950) (Pueblo Member?)
Pete Corrado
Mariano Costa
Joseph Geloso
Vito Giannola (D/1927) (Killed) (Former Boss)
Anthony “Tony Lap” LoPiparo (D/1960) (Former Boss)
Pasquale Miceli (Former Boss)
Alphonse Palazzolo (D/1926/7) (Killed) (Former Boss)
Alphonse Pazzalo
Charles Ruffino
Calogero SanFilippo
Frank Sicola (D/1922) (Killed)
Antonino Triolo (Early Boss?)
Gaetano “Big Tom” Viviano (D/1934) (Former Boss?)
Sam Viviano
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Re: St.Louis Crime Family
Awesome job putting that together.
Is it a different Tony LoPiparo on the soldier list or the same one as the dead former boss?
Is it a different Tony LoPiparo on the soldier list or the same one as the dead former boss?
Re: St.Louis Crime Family
I'd say yes. His nickname is Tony Lap and it says next to him "Former Boss" he also died in 1960.
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Re: St.Louis Crime Family
What about Philadelphia? LCN has a significant enough presence there. What do you think?Wiseguy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:10 pmThere's nobody in California to collect anyway. New York/New Jersey will be about the only place that will still take place and it will be in those neighborhoods where the mob has a significant enough presence.Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:27 pm I doubt there are drug dealers anywhere kicking up to the Italian mob anymore. Definitely NO ONE in Cali. If any Italian wiseguy approached someone out here and tried to shake him down he would get laughed at...at best.
Re: St.Louis Crime Family
Maybe certain drug dealers in specific areas.Nick Prango wrote: ↑Wed Dec 30, 2020 4:15 pmWhat about Philadelphia? LCN has a significant enough presence there. What do you think?Wiseguy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:10 pmThere's nobody in California to collect anyway. New York/New Jersey will be about the only place that will still take place and it will be in those neighborhoods where the mob has a significant enough presence.Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:27 pm I doubt there are drug dealers anywhere kicking up to the Italian mob anymore. Definitely NO ONE in Cali. If any Italian wiseguy approached someone out here and tried to shake him down he would get laughed at...at best.
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