St.Louis Crime Family

[Moscone65]

And my information is from multiple sources who are unrelated.

[JoeCamel]

I know the outfit in 2020 is associate heavy with few made guys under 65-70 years old, but does what’s left have any action or reach in St. Louis and KC in 2020? I agree StL is most likely dead, seems like KC has a little more going on with remnants and members still around but what if any impact does the outfit have on these midwestern city’s aside from Chicago? Anything or pretty much nothing? Nothing seems more likely but the post above got me wondering that maybe since the outfit still has a fair number of associates maybe there’s hooks in here and there.

[ThomasSpears]

Anyways real facts on the St. Louis family and not some dork who can’t even put up an argument to his crap. The family was always small. Half the name on charts that were even real were never made. Vincent giordano I am not sure you even consider an associate? Would you consider Frye or whoever his name is (gigantes kin) a criminal associate? That’s all Vincent giordano was at best and once again that was almost 50 years ago. I have never heard, read, or anything of him being any more let alone even remaining in St. Louis or being alive. Let’s see other bullshit myths. Germia and copo two zips. I remember being asked this story and if I it could be true.. guys have we all not seen the sopranos? I mean come onnnnnn. Also nino parrino was fat as fuck and besides going to his usual haunts to hang in retirement that’s about as far as his ass went. Jack parrino. Umm nino parrino had brothers frank, Sam, and nick. Now what’s crazy Is there was a jack parrino but here is where I rain on parades. Jack was a cousin. Jack was never a part of the life. Jack’s biggest involvement is maybe placing a bet?? But I am not sure because you see jack was slow. Short bus slow. Well to be blunt Moscone slow. So yeah. Oh he died in like the late 90’s? So I guess he is just advising from the grave. I would be very interested to know what he’s saying so if sources could fill me in. I would be very thankful. Looks I’ll just speed this up. One made man left alive in stl — Nondo bartolotta. 1. He is not active sorry everyone sorry. Nondo does alright for himself though co owns a business or two and he and that infamous leo who not sure gets listed as a criminal associate. Leo is in the infamous produce business in St. Louis but it is all legit. He is legit. Let’s see other names if you researched the family actually you would know of. Olivastro’s (ironically) in the legal weed game. The mazzuca’s (again somewhat ironic) successful car lots. LoPiccolo unions (legit). Last name starts with s who thall shall never name. If it was not for daddy and father in law they may very well not be the real estate tycoons they are today. Pisciotta’s local politics. All legit though. Are there bookmakers in St. Louis? I mean yeah duh sure they are everywhere but they are not “kicking” up to anyone and if they actually are it’s not anybody connected to the old St. Louis crime family. Also forgot some. Tony giordanos adopted kid Bill. Was one of the top guys at Mississippi sand and fred Weber. Very successful. Very legit. Nino has no sons. Joe cammarata I believe his kid is some sort of doctor. Must be a mob doctor of course to get the bullets out of ol vinny shotgun. Anyways a lot of the guys got there kids into very successful legit businesses. I mean if it makes you happy moscone you can say they won in the end. Made money and were able to make it take them legit. Also for any future posters stop trying to use the hill as some sort of base or recruitment ground. Just please don’t. I love the hill but it is not what it once was. Times change. Unless mr. Baxter cooper Jamal johnson are in line to get made that’s your recruitment. Gone are the days of it being Italians living there. It’s all couples and there dogs walking and people trying to grab food on lunch. No men sitting outside there social club. Whew

[Wiseguy]

I know the outfit in 2020 is associate heavy with few made guys under 65-70 years old, but does what’s left have any action or reach in St. Louis and KC in 2020? I agree StL is most likely dead, seems like KC has a little more going on with remnants and members still around but what if any impact does the outfit have on these midwestern city’s aside from Chicago? Anything or pretty much nothing? Nothing seems more likely but the post above got me wondering that maybe since the outfit still has a fair number of associates maybe there’s hooks in here and there.

By and large their influence doesn't extend beyond Chicago and it's suburbs.

[ThomasSpears]

And I am sorry yeah I can be a dick. I just cannot stand liars. Have some integrity.

[Eline2015]

In early 60s organization was a dead body already

[joerock]

I think I can discern who is a troll and who isn’t, you and a few others on here are just cynical and being narrow minded makes you feel superior to others.id trust my sources over a few mangiacake a.

I think you mean realistic and practical. Based on real evidence.

I'm not trying to pile on but this post below is a perfect example of the faulty approach you take to just about every family. You'll accept any internet "source" that tells you what you want to hear (a family still going is your default setting) and then fill in the blanks with your own "probably's" and suppositions.

Descendants of the st louis old timers own alot of nightclubs and other businesses in the st louis area nowadays. Probably some shady shit going down there at these nightclubs, alot of blacks are known to hang out there and im sure they give the owners a cut to operate there. Some gambling and loansharking im sure still go on, but its a pretty low key operation with mostly of legitimate business (with some side stuff).

That’s fair. My post was made for joerock, what he wants to do with that info it’s his prerogative. If you think what I say is not true that’s ok, just say it and move on. I have a problem with this pezz di merd’ @thomasspears coming in and insulting people. Go fuck yourself buddy you should be banned from this forum Thomas, your an internet tough guy.

Thank you for the post I'm just a person trying to learn as much as possible

[Grouchy Sinatra]

alot of blacks are known to hang out there and im sure they give the owners a cut to operate there.

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Probably the other way around.

[Extortion]

Descendants of the st louis old timers own alot of nightclubs and other businesses in the st louis area nowadays. Probably some shady shit going down there at these nightclubs, alot of blacks are known to hang out there and im sure they give the owners a cut to operate there. Some gambling and loansharking im sure still go on, but its a pretty low key operation with mostly of legitimate business (with some side stuff).

Blacks paying tribute to operate in 2020...HIGHLY unlikely. Besides who “told” you who was active in st louis and how are they in a position to know?

[JeremyTheJew]

Just because there is "some bookmaking" .... and maybe even drugs.... doesn't mean it's LCN.

Lcn is strictly about a STRUCTURE

[JeremyTheJew]

Can anyone go over STL hist at there height??

I know there was a BMF sister group in STL but obviously different ....

Giordano Family right??

And Egan's rats

[Rat]

Any opinions on the current state of this family? Is there a hierarchy? How many soldiers and associates etc

Deader than pro football in St Louis.

this made me laugh way to much

[Moscone65]

alot of blacks are known to hang out there and im sure they give the owners a cut to operate there.

Probably the other way around.
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Lol right, thats funny

[Frank]

I know the outfit in 2020 is associate heavy with few made guys under 65-70 years old, but does what’s left have any action or reach in St. Louis and KC in 2020? I agree StL is most likely dead, seems like KC has a little more going on with remnants and members still around but what if any impact does the outfit have on these midwestern city’s aside from Chicago? Anything or pretty much nothing? Nothing seems more likely but the post above got me wondering that maybe since the outfit still has a fair number of associates maybe there’s hooks in here and there.

Lol we are wondering exactly what impact the Outfit still has in Chicago.

[Grouchy Sinatra]

I doubt there are drug dealers anywhere kicking up to the Italian mob anymore. Definitely NO ONE in Cali. If any Italian wiseguy approached someone out here and tried to shake him down he would get laughed at...at best.