Murder at home owned by Rocco Luppino (Hamilton)

[B.]

Thanks for the info, Antimafia.

If Hamilton was chosen by LE as a destination for Morena, the question then becomes how he was able to get the Bonanno family to induct him there with Buffalo and Violi's approval and encouragement.

Like I said in the New Orleans thread, they may be more casual about networking than we realize. They are not casual about formal affiliation, but when it comes to meeting up with other mafia figures and networking there might not be as much of a song and dance as we'd assume. Nick Stefanelli, another cooperator, easily arranged meetings between the Philly/Gambino leadership, with the Philadelphia boss, and the New England acting boss.

However, Morena's situation takes it a step further as Bonanno members traveled to Canada to induct him into their family and arranged for him to have a relationship with the Buffalo leadership in the region. That doesn't sound like something that would be as simple as Morena asking his mafia superiors for a favor at the urging of law enforcement -- it required members from different families and cities to travel and expose themselves to scrutiny. To say the least, it wasn't convenient.

We've talked about it before, but Morena ran in the same Ridgewood Giannini cafe circle as Montagna when the two were in NYC. They both knew Baldo Amato and I believe Montagna was a Bonanno member at the time Morena went to prison in 2001.

[antimafia]

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Keep in mind that Morena's induction ceremony is not the first time that the RCMP has been successful in videotaping such a ceremony.

Giovanni Persichetti was an undercover RCMP officer when, in 1985, he managed to get initiated into an 'ndrangheta cell in London, Ontario. Journalist Peter Edwards has written that Persichetti was inducted in the back of a greasy spoon. Academic and organized-crime writer Stephen Schneider wrote in Iced..., in relation to the case that was being built on 'ndrangheta members Sam and John Zangari, that "[t]hree separate ceremonies, held in a high-rise apartment in the city, were captured on police videotape."

I'm quite aware that many posters on these various organized-crime forums point to the RCMP's policing activities as being ineffectual, and the RCMP itself lackadaisical, in the fight against organized crime. I would argue that, actually, the RCMP uses aggressive, unethical stings in a number of policing activities, especially in cold-case homicides--the agency has been roundly criticized by its counterparts in other countries for its investigative techniques.

This desire to have Morena's induction ceremony videotaped was obviously used by Canadian law enforcement and Canadian prosecutors to build a much stronger case against the Violi brothers, and I'm not sure how the videotape has helped American authorities in their prosecution against Zummo et al. While a videotaped ceremony satisfies the insatiable curiousity that we posters have about the inner workings of a secret society and offers opportunities for more nuanced discussions on a number of topics, the reality is that the mobsters who were friendly with Morena, spoke with him, talked with him while he was recording them, and inducted him are at risk of being punished and maybe even killed one day--and as we all know, it isn't always necessarily the violation of the mob's "principles" in situations like this that is the basis for such punishment or death but, rather, the violation is used as a pretext by one mobster to get rid of another mobster he really doesn't like.

Domenico Violi was still a Buffalo soldier when Morena was inducted in November 2015. The Buffalo Family leadership in the Niagara region would have been his uncles who had risen to the position of captain; yet we don't have any proof that the Luppinos were there for the ceremony. If a made Domenico Violi and a perhaps nonmade Giuseppe Violi were more influential than Buffalo Family captains--so much so that the Violis were invited to the ceremony--this is telling.

We don't know whether Giuseppe Violi was on record with Buffalo or the Bonannos at that point, but a number of us have deduced that, based on the DOJ's November 9, 2017 release re: the coordinated Canadian-American takedown, that he either stayed a Buffalo associate or eventually was made into the Buffalo Family.

Sal Montagna, by meeting with a nonmade Domenico Violi in Ontario many years ago, obviously laid tracks that the Bonannos in New York were able to use to make inroads into Hamilton. I wrongly asserted that the mention of the induction ceremony in Anna Sergi's June 2018 article meant that the Violi brothers had obviously been made into the Bonanno Family. Still, it would make sense that before Montagna was killed in November 2011, he could have promised Bonanno membership to the Violis and to certain people in Montreal, such as Domenico Arcuri.

Sergi's article states the following on p. 4, and I'm wondering what is meant by Morena "later introducing others to the Bonanno group":

For example, Project OTremens court filings detail how an undercover agent became a member of the Bonanno family, with law enforcement recording the induction ceremony and the agent later introducing others to the Bonanno group.

I'm not sure whether this needs to jibe with Domenico Violi's offering to introduce Morena to Arcadi, Mucci, and Frankie Cotroni Jr.--that was in September 2016. Maybe it's the case that Morena, a made man since November 2015, could actually introduce Violi to Bonanno members in New York and in Montreal? I don't know the answer, but something doesn't sit right.

[B.]

Good point about Violi being a soldier when he attended the induction. Given the NYC Bonanno group had limited time in Canada and may have been concerned with LE attention (not realizing a far worse situation came from within), they may have invited Violi to the ceremony so that they could induct Morena and formally introduce him to Violi in one fell swoop rather than arranging separate events. There is precedent for US mafia families including members of other families and coincidentally the two I can think of offhand also involve the Bonanno family. After all, they are all branches of the same organization.

What's also significant is the recording also gave the impression that Damiano Zummo was still a soldier. He appears to say he will be taking over as acting captain for another acting captain in the near future, doesn't he?

Violi must have been formally introduced to the NYC Bonanno group visiting Canada prior to the induction ceremony, so an important missing link is who made that introduction. Formal introductions would have already had to have taken place between Bonanno and Buffalo-Ontario members, not including Violi, for that introduction to be made.

Some might think it's silly to put so much focus on formal introductions, but sources indicate the rule of introductions by a third party is one of the most consistently followed rules. Despite the informality of the Bonanno "ceremony" (which has been a common practice even in NYC), the info from this case has shown the groups were interested in proper protocol when it came to affiliation, promotion, and introductions.

I appreciate your point about the RCMP and definitely don't want to ever come across like I'm playing a team game of US vs. Canadian LE. The RCMP has revealed that the Buffalo family still exists and is in contact with the Bonanno family.

A lot of crossover with the other Montreal topic, so I'll save comments about Montagna for that.

[SantoClaus]

When Dom Violi was phone tapped, and stated that 'they' would have Musitano dead, was 'they' the Luppinos as a seperate family? If so, could the murder of Cece, been someone other than Musitano?

I'm hearing about a primo blow connect, similar to when the 95 Nomads in Montreal with Vito and the Musitano on James Street at the Zuccha were pumping. Seems to be what Ranieri was involved in and whacked over. I was in Hamilton at the end of 2018, and was hearing the Rocco Luppino was the boss of Hamilton now, and that someone would be dead by the end of the year. Instead of that being true, Antonio Magi was whacked 3 weeks or so into 2019.

Shortly later, Cece Luppino was killed, I personally think that it came out of Montreal, non Rizzuto, rather Martin Robert, Dave Lefebevre, maybe with Tony Iavarone, since they are so close.

Anyone heard anything similar or can shed any light!

Gli Uccelli volano atraversano tutta la moda!! Vera e Giustizia Sempre!!

[scagghiuni]

When Dom Violi was phone tapped, and stated that 'they' would have Musitano dead, was 'they' the Luppinos as a seperate family? If so, could the murder of Cece, been someone other than Musitano?

I'm hearing about a primo blow connect, similar to when the 95 Nomads in Montreal with Vito and the Musitano on James Street at the Zuccha were pumping. Seems to be what Ranieri was involved in and whacked over. I was in Hamilton at the end of 2018, and was hearing the Rocco Luppino was the boss of Hamilton now, and that someone would be dead by the end of the year. Instead of that being true, Antonio Magi was whacked 3 weeks or so into 2019.

Shortly later, Cece Luppino was killed, I personally think that it came out of Montreal, non Rizzuto, rather Martin Robert, Dave Lefebevre, maybe with Tony Iavarone, since they are so close.

Anyone heard anything similar or can shed any light!

Gli Uccelli volano atraversano tutta la moda!! Vera e Giustizia Sempre!!

i think he meant the bonanno's

[SantoClaus]

When Dom Violi was phone tapped, and stated that 'they' would have Musitano dead, was 'they' the Luppinos as a seperate family? If so, could the murder of Cece, been someone other than Musitano?

I'm hearing about a primo blow connect, similar to when the 95 Nomads in Montreal with Vito and the Musitano on James Street at the Zuccha were pumping. Seems to be what Ranieri was involved in and whacked over. I was in Hamilton at the end of 2018, and was hearing the Rocco Luppino was the boss of Hamilton now, and that someone would be dead by the end of the year. Instead of that being true, Antonio Magi was whacked 3 weeks or so into 2019.

Shortly later, Cece Luppino was killed, I personally think that it came out of Montreal, non Rizzuto, rather Martin Robert, Dave Lefebevre, maybe with Tony Iavarone, since they are so close.

Anyone heard anything similar or can shed any light!

Gli Uccelli volano atraversano tutta la moda!! Vera e Giustizia Sempre!!

i think he meant the bonanno's

If that’s the correct answer, that is wild.

Maybe I’m in a different era, but to think that Pat Musitano can go to war with the Bonannos is impressive, he must have been a serious gangster.

Clearly not a great decision in the end, all of that can more than likely be traced to Rizzuto’s meetings right before and after his release in 2012.

Rocco Luppino is the boss then?

Grazie

[Lupara]

When Dom Violi was phone tapped, and stated that 'they' would have Musitano dead, was 'they' the Luppinos as a seperate family? If so, could the murder of Cece, been someone other than Musitano?

I'm hearing about a primo blow connect, similar to when the 95 Nomads in Montreal with Vito and the Musitano on James Street at the Zuccha were pumping. Seems to be what Ranieri was involved in and whacked over. I was in Hamilton at the end of 2018, and was hearing the Rocco Luppino was the boss of Hamilton now, and that someone would be dead by the end of the year. Instead of that being true, Antonio Magi was whacked 3 weeks or so into 2019.

Shortly later, Cece Luppino was killed, I personally think that it came out of Montreal, non Rizzuto, rather Martin Robert, Dave Lefebevre, maybe with Tony Iavarone, since they are so close.

Anyone heard anything similar or can shed any light!

Gli Uccelli volano atraversano tutta la moda!! Vera e Giustizia Sempre!!

i think he meant the bonanno's

If that’s the correct answer, that is wild.

Maybe I’m in a different era, but to think that Pat Musitano can go to war with the Bonannos is impressive, he must have been a serious gangster.

Clearly not a great decision in the end, all of that can more than likely be traced to Rizzuto’s meetings right before and after his release in 2012.

Rocco Luppino is the boss then?

Grazie

Rocco Luppino has been identified as capo of the Hamilton crew so he could be labeled as boss of Hamilton.

[SantoClaus]

When Dom Violi was phone tapped, and stated that 'they' would have Musitano dead, was 'they' the Luppinos as a seperate family? If so, could the murder of Cece, been someone other than Musitano?

I'm hearing about a primo blow connect, similar to when the 95 Nomads in Montreal with Vito and the Musitano on James Street at the Zuccha were pumping. Seems to be what Ranieri was involved in and whacked over. I was in Hamilton at the end of 2018, and was hearing the Rocco Luppino was the boss of Hamilton now, and that someone would be dead by the end of the year. Instead of that being true, Antonio Magi was whacked 3 weeks or so into 2019.

Shortly later, Cece Luppino was killed, I personally think that it came out of Montreal, non Rizzuto, rather Martin Robert, Dave Lefebevre, maybe with Tony Iavarone, since they are so close.

Anyone heard anything similar or can shed any light!

Gli Uccelli volano atraversano tutta la moda!! Vera e Giustizia Sempre!!

i think he meant the bonanno's

If that’s the correct answer, that is wild.

Maybe I’m in a different era, but to think that Pat Musitano can go to war with the Bonannos is impressive, he must have been a serious gangster.

Clearly not a great decision in the end, all of that can more than likely be traced to Rizzuto’s meetings right before and after his release in 2012.

Rocco Luppino is the boss then?

Grazie

Rocco Luppino has been identified as capo of the Hamilton crew so he could be labeled as boss of Hamilton.

Hmmmm, so, would he have any reason to want Tony Magi dead?

[PogueMahone]

The theory that the Luppinos had anything to do with Magi’s death is completely insane.

[Lupara]

The theory that the Luppinos had anything to do with Magi’s death is completely insane.

Agreed.

[scagghiuni]

the rizzuto's are probably behind tony magi murder, i don't think the luppino's has anything to do with it

[dixiemafia]

the rizzuto's are probably behind tony magi murder, i don't think the luppino's has anything to do with it

They are DEFINITELY behind the Magi murder. He was marked the moment Rizzuto stepped foot back in Canada.

[SantoClaus]

I thought it was a long shot as well, the timing of CeCe Luppino is what got me. Didn’t know if he was killed in that cycle or was revenge for Magi.

[SantoClaus]

The theory that the Luppinos had anything to do with Magi’s death is completely insane.

What I mean is did it benefit him or the Bonnanos if that is who he is with? He definitely is being spoken of now as the boss of Hamilton.