Howard Beach Mob ‘Boss’ Mentioned on Joe Rogan

[Ozgoz]

Joe De Sena (Spartan Race guy) was on Joe Rogan here,

https://youtu.be/wCSDF0RNuXY at the 10:00 minute mark.

He has a cool story about some (actually very very good) life/business advice from his local mob boss and I wonder if we can narrow it down, which is unlikely I suspect but...

1. He referred to him as ‘one of the big bosses’ but you know that to the public a powerful soldier could easily be taken for a boss. I personally get the vibe it might have been a capo but that’s just my hunch.

2. He specifically said Howard Beach which is/was what, Gambino and Bonnano?

3. He said it was when he was 12. De Cena was born in ‘69 so this would’ve occurred in ‘81.

So question is what Capo’s (maybe) we’re knockinh about Howard Beach in ‘81 dishing out life advice?

[JohnnyS]

Joe Massino?

[slimshady_007]

Definitely sounds like he’s talking about Joe Massino

[newera_212]

i saw this and at the time thought he was talking about vic amuso. also, isnt there currently a lucchese capo who lives in howard beach with the same last name? DeSena?

[Grouchy Sinatra]

Gotti lived in Howard Beach, didn't he? Of course he wasn't a boss in 1981 but then again neither was Massino.

[Flushing]

i saw this and at the time thought he was talking about vic amuso. also, isnt there currently a lucchese capo who lives in howard beach with the same last name? DeSena?

Interesting if true.

The recent Pennissi rat testimony on the Luke's did not cite an active Queens crew. I believe he mentioned 2 Bronx crews, a Manhattan crew, a Long island crew, a jersey crew and 2 Staten island (including the Brooklyn remnants now based in tottenville).

[Flushing]

Gene Borello has also said something along the lines of "Howard Beach is all Gambino and bonanno".

[dave]

A big figure from the Bonannos according to this article:
https://www.mensjournal.com/features/jo ... -20140624/

[JohnnyS]

A big figure from the Bonannos according to this article:
https://www.mensjournal.com/features/jo ... -20140624/

Yeah its definitely Joe Massino. Captain in '81 obviously boss later.

[CTamg65]

i saw this and at the time thought he was talking about vic amuso. also, isnt there currently a lucchese capo who lives in howard beach with the same last name? DeSena?

Interesting if true.

The recent Pennissi rat testimony on the Luke's did not cite an active Queens crew. I believe he mentioned 2 Bronx crews, a Manhattan crew, a Long island crew, a jersey crew and 2 Staten island (including the Brooklyn remnants now based in tottenville).

Joe Desena is a capo with the Lukes ,uncle of the kid Tuccio who was around Merlino ,I'm not sure where he lives now , but supposedly owns and runs a Cafe in Little Italy

[johnny_scootch]

I believe he mentioned 2 Bronx crews, a Manhattan crew, a Long island crew, a jersey crew and 2 Staten island (including the Brooklyn remnants now based in tottenville).

He said

2 Bronx, 2 Long Island, 1 Manhattan, 1 Brooklyn/Staten Island, 1 Jersey

[JeremyTheJew]

I believe he mentioned 2 Bronx crews, a Manhattan crew, a Long island crew, a jersey crew and 2 Staten island (including the Brooklyn remnants now based in tottenville).

He said

2 Bronx, 2 Long Island, 1 Manhattan, 1 Brooklyn/Staten Island, 1 Jersey

Are u sure 2 Bronx n 2 long island??

I remember it being 6 total and not that... could be wrong.

[Wiseguy]

I believe he mentioned 2 Bronx crews, a Manhattan crew, a Long island crew, a jersey crew and 2 Staten island (including the Brooklyn remnants now based in tottenville).

He said

2 Bronx, 2 Long Island, 1 Manhattan, 1 Brooklyn/Staten Island, 1 Jersey

Are u sure 2 Bronx n 2 long island??

I remember it being 6 total and not that... could be wrong.

johnny scootch is right - 7 crews in the areas he listed.

[gohnjotti]

Definitely sounds like he’s talking about Joe Massino

I have no clue how you came to that conclusion. The guy didn't say the mobster's name, he didn't give any identifying details about the mobster other than that he lived in Queens.

Is there something I'm missing?

[JohnnyS]

Definitely sounds like he’s talking about Joe Massino

I have no clue how you came to that conclusion. The guy didn't say the mobster's name, he didn't give any identifying details about the mobster other than that he lived in Queens.

Is there something I'm missing?

"What happened was, my other neighbor was a big organized-crime figure in the Bonanno family,” he says. “My dad lost everything. This guy was just being nice. He said, ‘Hey, come clean my pool.’ I cleaned his pool, so then he gave me the head of another organized-crime family’s pool to clean, and then it was John Gotti’s pool.

Definitely Massino.