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Agreed. I just meant that the whole thing could have been a setup given that the three were together.
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Clark wrote:
Adam wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:58 pm Any word yet on who was wounded?
John Clary, a long-time associate of Pat, is one. He was the individual that drove his car into the other car with Quebec plates that was parked outside of Pat's house following the first shooting.
He's his 76 year old bodyguard. Apparantly saved Musitano from an earlier attempt at his home by driving his car into that of the assailants.

I still don't get why a mob boss who knows he's marked has only one bodyguard, let alone someone old enough to be in a nursing home.

Someone once told me they are sparse with bodyguards because it shows weakness. Well, in that case, why not go rambo style up in arms to your enemies' neighborhood shouting 'say hello to my little friend', because as we've seen on numerous occassions, one bodyguard isn't going to cut it.
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Clark wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:15 pm Agreed. I just meant that the whole thing could have been a setup given that the three were together.
Ya lol I think I read your comment wrong haha
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Lupara wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:24 pm
Clark wrote:
Adam wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:58 pm Any word yet on who was wounded?
John Clary, a long-time associate of Pat, is one. He was the individual that drove his car into the other car with Quebec plates that was parked outside of Pat's house following the first shooting.
He's his 76 year old bodyguard. Apparantly saved Musitano from an earlier attempt at his home by driving his car into that of the assailants.

I still don't get why a mob boss who knows he's marked has only one bodyguard, let alone someone old enough to be in a nursing home.

Someone once told me they are sparse with bodyguards because it shows weakness. Well, in that case, why not go rambo style up in arms to your enemies' neighborhood shouting 'say hello to my little friend', because as we've seen on numerous occassions, one bodyguard isn't going to cut it.
He’s an old man, but he’s got balls. He drove into a car full of moolinyans with masks clearly up to no good, and he sent them running trying to pull up their pants. The guy didn’t give a fuck.
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Sooo...
Is this related to rizzuto??

Or is this buffalo/Hamilton business with musitano vs luppino (now just luppo) ??
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Why not just move?
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Who's backing the luppinos?
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West Coast1 wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:46 pm Why not just move?
:lol:
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:44 pm Sooo...
Is this related to rizzuto??

Or is this buffalo/Hamilton business with musitano vs luppino (now just luppo) ??
Mostly the latter.
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Wild stuff to hear!
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Lupara wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:24 pm
Clark wrote:
Adam wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:58 pm Any word yet on who was wounded?
John Clary, a long-time associate of Pat, is one. He was the individual that drove his car into the other car with Quebec plates that was parked outside of Pat's house following the first shooting.
He's his 76 year old bodyguard. Apparantly saved Musitano from an earlier attempt at his home by driving his car into that of the assailants.

I still don't get why a mob boss who knows he's marked has only one bodyguard, let alone someone old enough to be in a nursing home.

Someone once told me they are sparse with bodyguards because it shows weakness. Well, in that case, why not go rambo style up in arms to your enemies' neighborhood shouting 'say hello to my little friend', because as we've seen on numerous occassions, one bodyguard isn't going to cut it.
"Someone once told me they are sparse with bodyguards because it shows weakness" only an idiot can say this,here in italy where you rusk to be killed every day there criminals who go around in armored cars and with car parades led by shoulder guards; the ndranghetisti spend days without go out of their bunkers for continue to run their ndrine,Paolo DiLauro only ottenuto went out of his house in scampia and many of his men never seen him in face.
Most of the Canada war deaths can be avoided if they would hired more bodyguard and changed their habits.
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furiofromnaples wrote: Sat Jul 11, 2020 5:01 am
Lupara wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 8:24 pm
Clark wrote:
Adam wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 6:58 pm Any word yet on who was wounded?
John Clary, a long-time associate of Pat, is one. He was the individual that drove his car into the other car with Quebec plates that was parked outside of Pat's house following the first shooting.
He's his 76 year old bodyguard. Apparantly saved Musitano from an earlier attempt at his home by driving his car into that of the assailants.

I still don't get why a mob boss who knows he's marked has only one bodyguard, let alone someone old enough to be in a nursing home.

Someone once told me they are sparse with bodyguards because it shows weakness. Well, in that case, why not go rambo style up in arms to your enemies' neighborhood shouting 'say hello to my little friend', because as we've seen on numerous occassions, one bodyguard isn't going to cut it.
"Someone once told me they are sparse with bodyguards because it shows weakness" only an idiot can say this,here in italy where you rusk to be killed every day there criminals who go around in armored cars and with car parades led by shoulder guards; the ndranghetisti spend days without go out of their bunkers for continue to run their ndrine,Paolo DiLauro only ottenuto went out of his house in scampia and many of his men never seen him in face.
Most of the Canada war deaths can be avoided if they would hired more bodyguard and changed their habits.
Well, for some reason it seems like a lot of these guys have chosen not to go the Italian route. I have to feel there's a reason for that. They're not suicidal. The appearance of weakness thing is an interesting theory, or it might just be that it's kind of hard to be low key and get business done in Canada when surrounded by bodyguards and driving around in armored cars. Makes people notice you a bit more in MIssissauga than say in Naples.
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People fail to acknowledge the return of Walter Stadnik and Donald Stockford back to Hamilton.

Both were close to Papalia, and neither were free when Hamilton, patched from Outlaws to Hells Angels.

Both were HA Nomads 95 with Maurice Boucher, who was close with Vito Rizzuto. Neither Nurgent or Pup seemed to give up being a gangster while in prison. While Mom was convicted fairly recently for the attempted murder of Raynard Desjardins.

Something to consider, when that charter out of Montreal was averaging close to 100 million a year in coke money.
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And in no way am I saying this is related, but this article got published about a Hamilton double shooting that happened later on in the day. I only post it because it mentions the Musitano hit earlier in the day but specifically says that nothing has been released that they're connected. But with Canada who the hell knows.

https://www.cp24.com/news/one-dead-foll ... -1.5020218
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