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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:33 am Yeah that just means that the cops are juking the stats or not in many cases even bothering to respond to a call so that the stats don't even come into play.


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Crime is just way down, the 80s and 90s were rough. Absent 2020 lol quality of life is better than 20-30 years ago. The country is improving mostly across the board but we still have some work to do on income and some pockets of race/ gender inequalities.

The founding fathers set up the system for slow change but in 25- 50 years the race / gender inequality will likely be gone as whites won’t be the majority anymore. Income inequality who knows , that’s been a tricky one to fix as it’s a winner takes all capital system.
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Except that is not the case. Many of our largest cities no longer arrest people (or even bother to respond to calls), for shop lifting, theft, vandalism, prostitution, drug use, etc. And they frequently ignore crimes committed by illegal aliens and even outright cover them up. And this is not even factoring in the blatant stat juking (to steal a phrase from the The Wire) that goes on everywhere. Some years back it was revealed that major cities like NY, Chicongo, LA, Miami, Dallas, Detroit, Baltimore, etc where deliberately fudging their statistics to show a lower crime rate. So yeah if you don't arrest people or even respond to a host of crimes and fudge your stats you will get a lower crime rate on paper but that is not the reality in the real world. The reality is that the quality of life for people across the country is decreasing rapidly.


As for "income inequality" the have found a way of eliminating, by making everyone equally poor and miserable.


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TommyNoto wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:54 am

Crime is just way down, the 80s and 90s were rough. Absent 2020 lol quality of life is better than 20-30 years ago. The country is improving mostly across the board but we still have some work to do on income and some pockets of race/ gender inequalities.

The founding fathers set up the system for slow change but in 25- 50 years the race / gender inequality will likely be gone as whites won’t be the majority anymore. Income inequality who knows , that’s been a tricky one to fix as it’s a winner takes all capital system.
I wouldn't consider whites being the minority to equaling whites losing their dominant status in politics and economics.

Look at all these Latin-American countries that are ruled by Euro-Spanish elites who make up for a sliver of the population while the indigenous citizens who make up like 80% of the country are working more and more for less and less. Divide and conquer is real. It's going to take more than just a demographic shift. As long as the elites can convince enough poor people that it's in their best interest to fight for them instead of themselves, because what they provide is more than what the poors will ever gain on their own, you're going to have a divide. It's precisely what's going on in the U.S. right now. It's how billionaires are able to get so many poor whites to fight for their cause instead of their own self interests.
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So in other words blame Whitey until there aren't anymore Whitey's left.


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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:17 am So in other words blame Whitey until there aren't anymore Whitey's left.


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If whitey is still in control, certainly. Who else do you blame?
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TommyNoto wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:30 am
queensnyer wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:58 am facts
ozone park- when Italian/german/irish lived there==low crime. nice kept property. thriving local economy. nice safe schools.
ozone park-when Guyanese/trini/Pakistan live there= high crime especially robbery and higher rape statistics rundown houses all over local business in disarray. schools some of worst in queens . PERIOD debate that

Take at look at this as overall crime in the 106 is down 80% vs 1990, -81% since 1993, -63% since 1998 and -44% since 2001 vs 2019.

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downlo ... 106pct.pdf
You've completely ruined queensnyer :lol:
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:08 am Except that is not the case. Many of our largest cities no longer arrest people (or even bother to respond to calls), for shop lifting, theft, vandalism, prostitution, drug use, etc. And they frequently ignore crimes committed by illegal aliens and even outright cover them up. And this is not even factoring in the blatant stat juking (to steal a phrase from the The Wire) that goes on everywhere. Some years back it was revealed that major cities like NY, Chicongo, LA, Miami, Dallas, Detroit, Baltimore, etc where deliberately fudging their statistics to show a lower crime rate. So yeah if you don't arrest people or even respond to a host of crimes and fudge your stats you will get a lower crime rate on paper but that is not the reality in the real world. The reality is that the quality of life for people across the country is decreasing rapidly.

Another way of juking the stats.

As of January 2013, complaints occurring within the jurisdiction of the Department of Correction have been disaggregated from the borough and precinct crime totals and are displayed separately on the Department of Correction CompStat page.
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TommyGambino wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:24 amYou've completely ruined queensnyer :lol:
Are the two of you seriously going to argue that violent crime is higher in white neighborhoods than ethnic ones?

There isn’t a crime statistic in the world that can help you there gents.
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:41 am
TommyGambino wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:24 amYou've completely ruined queensnyer :lol:
Are the two of you seriously going to argue that violent crime is higher in white neighborhoods than ethnic ones?

There isn’t a crime statistic in the world that can help you there gents.
Who said that? queensnyer said ozone park had far less crime when it was white, which the stats that tommy just shown proved it's way off
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TommyGambino wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:45 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:41 am
TommyGambino wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:24 amYou've completely ruined queensnyer :lol:
Are the two of you seriously going to argue that violent crime is higher in white neighborhoods than ethnic ones?

There isn’t a crime statistic in the world that can help you there gents.
Who said that? queensnyer said ozone park had far less crime when it was white, which the stats that tommy just shown proved it's way off
Ya but NYC in 1990 is 100% different then today

And this whole thread is absolutely rediculous
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:12 pm

And this whole thread is absolutely rediculous
It was from the opening post. OP was race trolling from the start.
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Grouchy Sinatra wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:16 pmIt was from the opening post. OP was race trolling from the start.
You’re accusing someone of race trolling?
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TommyGambino wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:45 am Who said that? queensnyer said ozone park had far less crime when it was white, which the stats that tommy just shown proved it's way off
Queensnyer’s point was that white neighborhoods are generally safer than ethnic ones. In which case he’s factually correct.
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JeremyTheJew wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:12 pmrediculous
When you type, sometimes you’ll see a little red squiggly line underneath certain words. This means you tried really really hard, like Thomas the tank engine did, but didn’t quite get there. If you click on the word the computer will even help you out so you don’t even have to learn.

Click the red squiggly lines. Please.
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:35 pm
TommyGambino wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:45 am Who said that? queensnyer said ozone park had far less crime when it was white, which the stats that tommy just shown proved it's way off
Queensnyer’s point was that white neighborhoods are generally safer than ethnic ones. In which case he’s factually correct.
I was replying to his comments on ozone park, nothing else, you know this.
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