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This gives some additional info on the informants:

http://members.tripod.com/laborers_chic ... Order.html
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I saw some reports from the early 1980s (possibly sourcing other reports from the late 1970s) and a well-connected contemporary Outfit figure was cooperating. He identified Aleman as a member but not sure how broad his view of the organization was, only that he seemed to have an inside view of operations under the Ferriola crew.

When James Basile cooperated and testified, he said he became a "soldier" in the 1970s and later became an "underboss" under a "crew boss" (captain). We know he was using underboss differently from the common use of the term, but was Basile what we normally call a made member when he cooperated? I've seen nothing about an induction/non-induction where his status became official and his references to "soldier" and "underboss" are specifically in the context of certain criminal operations.
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Antiliar wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:46 am I think you'll be the one to eventually identify the Jewish-Italian informant who gave a description of "The Life."
I think I nailed him. I'll write it up sometime soon.
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Ed wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:27 pm
Antiliar wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:46 am I think you'll be the one to eventually identify the Jewish-Italian informant who gave a description of "The Life."
I think I nailed him. I'll write it up sometime soon.
Hurry up :mrgreen: 8-)
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Ed wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:27 pm
Antiliar wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:46 am I think you'll be the one to eventually identify the Jewish-Italian informant who gave a description of "The Life."
I think I nailed him. I'll write it up sometime soon.
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. Maniaci had been a longtime FBI informant, but there is no evidence that played a part in his death. He was killed by a gun purchased from the same gun store at the same time as the gun used to kill former Outfit boss Samuel Giancana. [5] [6]

Copied from: http://mafiahistory.us/rattrap/infachilles.html

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 Valin, Edmond, "'Lefty' Rosenthal was high-level FBI source
into activities of Chicago Outfit," The American Mafia, mafiahistory.us

So basically The Calabreses killed this man because they supplied the gun for the Giancana hit according to Frank Calabrese jr.
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I think Chuck Nicoletti had to do something with the Maniaci killing but im not sure, maybe Antiliar can shed some light on it....
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Villain wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:01 pm I think Chuck Nicoletti had to do something with the Maniaci killing but im not sure, maybe Antiliar can shed some light on it....
One theory was that Albert Tocco ordered Maniaci's head and Nicoletti and Nick D'Andrea carried it out. Another is that Frank Peter Balistrieri and Steve Di Salvo of Milwaukee were responsible.
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Antiliar wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:20 pm
Villain wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:01 pm I think Chuck Nicoletti had to do something with the Maniaci killing but im not sure, maybe Antiliar can shed some light on it....
One theory was that Albert Tocco ordered Maniaci's head and Nicoletti and Nick D'Andrea carried it out. Another is that Frank Peter Balistrieri and Steve Di Salvo of Milwaukee were responsible.
Thanks again man. I thought it was Nicoletti who ordered it but it seems i was wrong...well if the same gun was used in the Momo hit, ill go with the first theory...
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It wasn't proven in court, but based on the evidence it could be either one. Or they teamed up, with the locals doing the actual dirty work, which I think is more likely.
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Antiliar wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:52 am It wasn't proven in court, but based on the evidence it could be either one. Or they teamed up, with the locals doing the actual dirty work, which I think is more likely.
Well they had a lot of "teaming ups" so they can be looked upon as two different crews....when he took over Chinatown, LaPietra was still present in Cicero and as a matter of fact, back in the 60s he had one or two headquarters in that same area...years later Sarno had interests on the south side, and Nick Ferriola entered the Chinatown crew etc....
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Villain wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:36 pm
Ed wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:27 pm
Antiliar wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:46 am I think you'll be the one to eventually identify the Jewish-Italian informant who gave a description of "The Life."
I think I nailed him. I'll write it up sometime soon.
Hurry up :mrgreen: 8-)
I'll do my best, but maybe sometime next month. Summer is always a bad time to get stuff done. :)
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Ed wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2020 5:17 am
Villain wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:36 pm
Ed wrote: Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:27 pm
Antiliar wrote: Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:46 am I think you'll be the one to eventually identify the Jewish-Italian informant who gave a description of "The Life."
I think I nailed him. I'll write it up sometime soon.
Hurry up :mrgreen: 8-)
I'll do my best, but maybe sometime next month. Summer is always a bad time to get stuff done. :)
Thanks bud and i was only kidding since i know that it will be "just" another great piece of work 8-) btw i agree, meaning if you look at my articles, some were posted during autumn or winter days but sometimes i had to do it during the summer :mrgreen:
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On a personal note: My wife and I went for an early walk this morning down by the lake. The weather is absolutely gorgeous in Toronto right now. At one point on our walk, I casually told her about CG 6690 and that I had finally figured out his secret identity. (It had been a bit of an obsession of mine for sometime). She looked at me with a gentle smile, nodded her head and said, "That's nice. What should I take out for dinner tonight?"

I think I need to get a life.
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Ed wrote: Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:15 am On a personal note: My wife and I went for an early walk this morning down by the lake. The weather is absolutely gorgeous in Toronto right now. At one point on our walk, I casually told her about CG 6690 and that I had finally figured out his secret identity. (It had been a bit of an obsession of mine for sometime). She looked at me with a gentle smile, nodded her head and said, "That's nice. What should I take out for dinner tonight?"

I think I need to get a life.
Same thing here bud....whenever i create some project i usually receive the same answer from both of em (my ex and my current wife)...and that is "Good for you!", followed by a tap on my back :cry:
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