Trump, Felix Sater and The Mob

[Ozgoz]

https://youtu.be/-k3B-tw2sB0

Never seen this before, bit of a tenuous link. I know we’ve discussed Trump and the mob before but worth a quick watch.

If anything I suspect Donald was a victim of the mob, paying those concrete prices in the 80s

[TallGuy19]

Every real estate developer in New York paid the mob for labor peace in the seventies and eighties. I don't think his connections to Italian organized crime were anything beyond the usual relationship that existed between organized crime and businessmen during that time period.

His connection to Russian organized crime groups is far more concerning, given that these groups often operate under the authority and protection of the Kremlin, and it would be very easy for these individuals to exploit his many weaknesses and catch him in compromising position.

[DPG]

Trump has flat out said that anyone and everyone who wanted to build in New York at that time had to deal with the mob at one point or another. Much like the Clintons, Trump is above and beyond the mob imo at least.

[TallGuy19]

Trump has flat out said that anyone and everyone who wanted to build in New York at that time had to deal with the mob at one point or another. Much like the Clintons, Trump is above and beyond the mob imo at least.

That's what I'm saying, none of these businessmen can really be faulted for dealing with the mob; that was just the cost of doing business in New York at that time.

[Peppermint]

Every real estate developer in New York paid the mob for labor peace in the seventies and eighties. I don't think his connections to Italian organized crime were anything beyond the usual relationship that existed between organized crime and businessmen during that time period.

His connection to Russian organized crime groups is far more concerning, given that these groups often operate under the authority and protection of the Kremlin, and it would be very easy for these individuals to exploit his many weaknesses and catch him in compromising position.

[scagghiuni]

Every real estate developer in New York paid the mob for labor peace in the seventies and eighties. I don't think his connections to Italian organized crime were anything beyond the usual relationship that existed between organized crime and businessmen during that time period.

His connection to Russian organized crime groups is far more concerning, given that these groups often operate under the authority and protection of the Kremlin, and it would be very easy for these individuals to exploit his many weaknesses and catch him in compromising position.

there is not any proof trump is connected with russian oc, but it's sure he knew some new york mobster, i think he even admitted it

[Fughedaboutit]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... rman-video

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[TallGuy19]

Every real estate developer in New York paid the mob for labor peace in the seventies and eighties. I don't think his connections to Italian organized crime were anything beyond the usual relationship that existed between organized crime and businessmen during that time period.

His connection to Russian organized crime groups is far more concerning, given that these groups often operate under the authority and protection of the Kremlin, and it would be very easy for these individuals to exploit his many weaknesses and catch him in compromising position.

there is not any proof trump is connected with russian oc, but it's sure he knew some new york mobster, i think he even admitted it

He did business with Felix Sater, who is alleged to be a made member of Russian organized crime.

[Peppermint]

Every real estate developer in New York paid the mob for labor peace in the seventies and eighties. I don't think his connections to Italian organized crime were anything beyond the usual relationship that existed between organized crime and businessmen during that time period.

His connection to Russian organized crime groups is far more concerning, given that these groups often operate under the authority and protection of the Kremlin, and it would be very easy for these individuals to exploit his many weaknesses and catch him in compromising position.

there is not any proof trump is connected with russian oc, but it's sure he knew some new york mobster, i think he even admitted it

He did business with Felix Sater, who is alleged to be a made member of Russian organized crime.

Keyword is alleged. Just like he allegedly colluded with Russia.

[TallGuy19]

Every real estate developer in New York paid the mob for labor peace in the seventies and eighties. I don't think his connections to Italian organized crime were anything beyond the usual relationship that existed between organized crime and businessmen during that time period.

His connection to Russian organized crime groups is far more concerning, given that these groups often operate under the authority and protection of the Kremlin, and it would be very easy for these individuals to exploit his many weaknesses and catch him in compromising position.

there is not any proof trump is connected with russian oc, but it's sure he knew some new york mobster, i think he even admitted it

He did business with Felix Sater, who is alleged to be a made member of Russian organized crime.

Keyword is alleged. Just like he allegedly colluded with Russia.

What difference does it make if he's actually made or not? He is a convicted felon with ties to Russian spy agencies who has undoubtedly done business with Trump.

It's also very strange that, even though there are many pictures of them together and it is a well-known fact that he and Trump did business together, Trump continues to deny that he knows him. If there's nothing to hide, then why deny that you know the man and have done business with him?

[scagghiuni]

Every real estate developer in New York paid the mob for labor peace in the seventies and eighties. I don't think his connections to Italian organized crime were anything beyond the usual relationship that existed between organized crime and businessmen during that time period.

His connection to Russian organized crime groups is far more concerning, given that these groups often operate under the authority and protection of the Kremlin, and it would be very easy for these individuals to exploit his many weaknesses and catch him in compromising position.

there is not any proof trump is connected with russian oc, but it's sure he knew some new york mobster, i think he even admitted it

He did business with Felix Sater, who is alleged to be a made member of Russian organized crime.

he is just a real estate developer involved in stock frauds, any evidence he is a russian mafia member or even colluded with them

[TallGuy19]

Every real estate developer in New York paid the mob for labor peace in the seventies and eighties. I don't think his connections to Italian organized crime were anything beyond the usual relationship that existed between organized crime and businessmen during that time period.

His connection to Russian organized crime groups is far more concerning, given that these groups often operate under the authority and protection of the Kremlin, and it would be very easy for these individuals to exploit his many weaknesses and catch him in compromising position.

there is not any proof trump is connected with russian oc, but it's sure he knew some new york mobster, i think he even admitted it

He did business with Felix Sater, who is alleged to be a made member of Russian organized crime.

he is just a real estate developer involved in stock frauds, any evidence he is a russian mafia member or even colluded with them

Yes...and John Gotti was just a humble plumbing supply salesman, who occasionally bet on the ponies.

[Peppermint]

Every real estate developer in New York paid the mob for labor peace in the seventies and eighties. I don't think his connections to Italian organized crime were anything beyond the usual relationship that existed between organized crime and businessmen during that time period.

His connection to Russian organized crime groups is far more concerning, given that these groups often operate under the authority and protection of the Kremlin, and it would be very easy for these individuals to exploit his many weaknesses and catch him in compromising position.

there is not any proof trump is connected with russian oc, but it's sure he knew some new york mobster, i think he even admitted it

He did business with Felix Sater, who is alleged to be a made member of Russian organized crime.

Keyword is alleged. Just like he allegedly colluded with Russia.

What difference does it make if he's actually made or not? He is a convicted felon with ties to Russian spy agencies who has undoubtedly done business with Trump.

It's also very strange that, even though there are many pictures of them together and it is a well-known fact that he and Trump did business together, Trump continues to deny that he knows him. If there's nothing to hide, then why deny that you know the man and have done business with him?

If you were a President that is as vindicated as Trump is. Would you openly admit to having done business with someone, who has some what of a criminal past, even if your dealings with them wasn’t criminal in nature?

I know I wouldn’t, because that’s just more fuel to the media fire frenzy. It would incriminating, even if no crime was committed. That’s why the 5th amendment exists, to protect the innocent from having their own words used against them in a false confession. Happens all the time to innocent people who decide to give a statement. Of course criminals like Epstein will naturally take advantage of this important amendment, Trump should have neither confirmed nor denied, because denial does make it suspicious, that much I agree. But as a President, you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

But Trump has been exonerated from any form of Russian collusion, be it with the Russian government or their mobster patsies. The investigation itself was a sham, and now there is an investigation into the sham itself. Unless you have evidence proving otherwise that the federal government doesn’t, then it’s all hearsay.

[TallGuy19]

Every real estate developer in New York paid the mob for labor peace in the seventies and eighties. I don't think his connections to Italian organized crime were anything beyond the usual relationship that existed between organized crime and businessmen during that time period.

His connection to Russian organized crime groups is far more concerning, given that these groups often operate under the authority and protection of the Kremlin, and it would be very easy for these individuals to exploit his many weaknesses and catch him in compromising position.

there is not any proof trump is connected with russian oc, but it's sure he knew some new york mobster, i think he even admitted it

He did business with Felix Sater, who is alleged to be a made member of Russian organized crime.

Keyword is alleged. Just like he allegedly colluded with Russia.

What difference does it make if he's actually made or not? He is a convicted felon with ties to Russian spy agencies who has undoubtedly done business with Trump.

It's also very strange that, even though there are many pictures of them together and it is a well-known fact that he and Trump did business together, Trump continues to deny that he knows him. If there's nothing to hide, then why deny that you know the man and have done business with him?

If you were a President that is as vindicated as Trump is. Would you openly admit to having done business with someone, who has some what of a criminal past, even if your dealings with them wasn’t criminal in nature?

I know I wouldn’t, because that’s just more fuel to the media fire frenzy. It would incriminating, even if no crime was committed. That’s why the 5th amendment exists, to protect the innocent from having their own words used against them in a false confession. Happens all the time to innocent people who decide to give a statement. Of course criminals like Epstein will naturally take advantage of this important amendment, Trump should have neither confirmed nor denied, because denial does make it suspicious, that much I agree. But as a President, you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t.

But Trump has been exonerated from any form of Russian collusion, be it with the Russian government or their mobster patsies. The investigation itself was a sham, and now there is an investigation into the sham itself. Unless you have evidence proving otherwise that the federal government doesn’t, then it’s all hearsay.

If I were falsely accused of a crime, I would gladly admit that I knew him, and I would provide paperwork and witnesses to prove that everything was above board and no crime was committed.

He didn't plead the 5th while under oath, he was denying it in interviews where he had the perfect opportunity to explain his side of the story.

An innocent person who is accused of something they didn't do is usually determined to prove their innocence by any means possible. Maybe Trump is wired differently, maybe he is naturally inclined to act like a guilty person when he is confronted with false allegations. I'm not a psychologist, and I'm in no position to psychoanalyze him; I just know the righteous indignation and overwhelming need for vindication that I feel when I'm accused of something I didn't do.

[bronx]

i believe felix was with both m from west side he flipped on butch ..maybe someone can check if thats correct