Traditional Philadelphia Crews

[Angelo Santino]

I'm fucking around with something that raised a question: To what extent were the Phila. crews based on region vs on personal affiliation? For instance, Frank Barrale was in SJ, is there evidence of a SJ crew member living in Phila? Or someone with Reginelli in Camden that's Phila based? These are for instances because info this early does not exist, so I'm looking overall. Are there examples in the later periods that show some type of continuity.

Up until Scarfo there were 4 captains in south Phila. alone, probably within 10 miles of eachother. I don't think they split the city into 4 corners using Christian and 8th as a dividing point. Only question is how much did this extend beyond Phila and vice versa.

I'm trying to build a highly theoretical 1920's chart, not sure if it'll get off the ground or not. It's raising more questions than answers. But if anyone's got nothing else to do and find it interesting, I'm game.

[Bklyn21]

I'm fucking around with something that raised a question: To what extent were the Phila. crews based on region vs on personal affiliation? For instance, Frank Barrale was in SJ, is there evidence of a SJ crew member living in Phila? Or someone with Reginelli in Camden that's Phila based? These are for instances because info this early does not exist, so I'm looking overall. Are there examples in the later periods that show some type of continuity.

Up until Scarfo there were 4 captains in south Phila. alone, probably within 10 miles of eachother. I don't think they split the city into 4 corners using Christian and 8th as a dividing point. Only question is how much did this extend beyond Phila and vice versa.

I'm trying to build a highly theoretical 1920's chart, not sure if it'll get off the ground or not. It's raising more questions than answers. But if anyone's got nothing else to do and find it interesting, I'm game.

What were the numbers for Philly around the time of Scarfo's appointment to Boss ? Or historically ? We're they at 100 or over 100 members ? I'm not too familiar with Philly but know a decent amount of info . Didn't they have about 12 Captains right before Scarfo ?

[Angelo Santino]

I'm fucking around with something that raised a question: To what extent were the Phila. crews based on region vs on personal affiliation? For instance, Frank Barrale was in SJ, is there evidence of a SJ crew member living in Phila? Or someone with Reginelli in Camden that's Phila based? These are for instances because info this early does not exist, so I'm looking overall. Are there examples in the later periods that show some type of continuity.

Up until Scarfo there were 4 captains in south Phila. alone, probably within 10 miles of eachother. I don't think they split the city into 4 corners using Christian and 8th as a dividing point. Only question is how much did this extend beyond Phila and vice versa.

I'm trying to build a highly theoretical 1920's chart, not sure if it'll get off the ground or not. It's raising more questions than answers. But if anyone's got nothing else to do and find it interesting, I'm game.

What were the numbers for Philly around the time of Scarfo's appointment to Boss ? Or historically ? We're they at 100 or over 100 members ? I'm not too familiar with Philly but know a decent amount of info . Didn't they have about 12 Captains right before Scarfo ?

50-70, 8 captains reduced to 4 or 5 I think during Scarfo's era.

[Bklyn21]

I'm fucking around with something that raised a question: To what extent were the Phila. crews based on region vs on personal affiliation? For instance, Frank Barrale was in SJ, is there evidence of a SJ crew member living in Phila? Or someone with Reginelli in Camden that's Phila based? These are for instances because info this early does not exist, so I'm looking overall. Are there examples in the later periods that show some type of continuity.

Up until Scarfo there were 4 captains in south Phila. alone, probably within 10 miles of eachother. I don't think they split the city into 4 corners using Christian and 8th as a dividing point. Only question is how much did this extend beyond Phila and vice versa.

I'm trying to build a highly theoretical 1920's chart, not sure if it'll get off the ground or not. It's raising more questions than answers. But if anyone's got nothing else to do and find it interesting, I'm game.

What were the numbers for Philly around the time of Scarfo's appointment to Boss ? Or historically ? We're they at 100 or over 100 members ? I'm not too familiar with Philly but know a decent amount of info . Didn't they have about 12 Captains right before Scarfo ?

50-70, 8 captains reduced to 4 or 5 I think during Scarfo's era.

Thanks CC , I'm a lil far off !

[Angelo Santino]

I'm fucking around with something that raised a question: To what extent were the Phila. crews based on region vs on personal affiliation? For instance, Frank Barrale was in SJ, is there evidence of a SJ crew member living in Phila? Or someone with Reginelli in Camden that's Phila based? These are for instances because info this early does not exist, so I'm looking overall. Are there examples in the later periods that show some type of continuity.

Up until Scarfo there were 4 captains in south Phila. alone, probably within 10 miles of eachother. I don't think they split the city into 4 corners using Christian and 8th as a dividing point. Only question is how much did this extend beyond Phila and vice versa.

I'm trying to build a highly theoretical 1920's chart, not sure if it'll get off the ground or not. It's raising more questions than answers. But if anyone's got nothing else to do and find it interesting, I'm game.

What were the numbers for Philly around the time of Scarfo's appointment to Boss ? Or historically ? We're they at 100 or over 100 members ? I'm not too familiar with Philly but know a decent amount of info . Didn't they have about 12 Captains right before Scarfo ?

50-70, 8 captains reduced to 4 or 5 I think during Scarfo's era.

Thanks CC , I'm a lil far off !

And I could be wrong, I'm recalling from memory. Pogo or B. or someone else should be able to answer definitively.

Looking at the 86 chart I did, it clocks 69 members: viewtopic.php?f=32&t=3409

[Angelo Santino]

I was going through files from the 1960's-1980's which is truly the first window into Philadelphia from inside sources and I believe I answered my own question. I'm going to conclude that crew affiliations are more interpersonal rather than regional. For instance, if I'm a criminal and I grow up in Camden and become affiliated with, let's say Reginelli who's over that city, chances are I'd be part of that crew. While that may seem regional, let's say I moved to Phila. later, my affiliation would remain with Reginelli as opposed to transferring to another crew. So if someone had all the info and color-coded members by crew and plotted their locations on the map, you'd see tremendous overlap. That's really the same thing you see in Chicago, New York and Sicily, people move around.

One traditional trait within the Mafia that can be misleading is their tendency to refer to Families or Crews by their region, "Philadelphia" or the "116th St Crew," which conveys an image of territorial dominance. In his book, Joe Bonanno explained this, "When I say Steve Magaddino controlled Canada, that is not to say that he directed when the bridges rose and fell." Also interesting that recently in NY, it came out that the "Brooklyn Crew" all lived in Staten Island.

[B.]

Regional in some cases, i.e. Newark crew is going to have Newark members in most cases and some of the crews have used certain areas as their landing pad, but the members under a given crew weren't strictly defined to that area.

Just a few examples:

Rocco Scafidi was a Philadelphia-based soldier under his uncle in Vineland/ Bridgeton SJ but there was a relation that explains it.

Skinny DiTullio was originally from Camden, lived and operated heavily in Atlantic City, but owned a bar in South Philly which he used as one of his main headquarters. His crew had members who lived in both Philadelphia and SJ.

The Camden and Chester crews were largely made up of guys in those areas, but their crews were active in Philadelphia.

Leonetti's crew was based in SJ but came to have Philadelphia members.

The DelGiorno crew had Anthony Piccolo, who was living in South Jersey.