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electricslim wrote:Just a couple of thoughts:

I've been going through tons FBI memorandums about Gus Alex. It seems like based on those memorandums, his stature is somewhat under estimated.

Again, all this stuff was observation of various agents, whom we know didn't always get it right however they all seem consistent in the opinion that Gus Alex was a the top guy in the Loop and Near South Side. He was also in charge of the South Side Policy racket, so probably would have ultimately directed the Mannos Bros. Also, Ralph Pierce, Les Kruse and Louis Briatta (didn't see this name on the list) all reported directly to Alex.
Good point. I hadn't considered the Mannos being under Alex, but you may be correct.
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Antiliar wrote:Again Snakes, thanks for the input. I'll make the adjustments, but do you have links to Mary Ferrell where documents show these connections? The Mannos, I think, were under Giancana. I haven't seen them linked to any Chicago Hts people. Same with the Fischettis. They lived in the North Side and Florida, sometimes operated in Cicero (where two crews operated, Aiuppa and Buccieri), but don't see them linked to either Buccieri or Aiuppa. For the Virruso/Virrussos, I know they moved to Florida but had to report or kick up to someone, so had to be under someone, especially before they moved there.
I'd have to dig for them, but give me time (or the weekend). Some of them are from newspaper articles as well. I didn't keep track of my sources when making my chart which was a bad choice in hindsight...
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I found a document that says Anthony “Puleo” De Rose was with Daddano. Why do you think he was with Buccieri?
http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html ... rch=Fratto
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Not sure, just rechecked some notes and I can't see anything about him being under Buccieri so you are probably right.
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http://srocco.org/images/B9F71032-AAE6- ... 173079.jpg

Is this the correct Joseph Costello from the Frank Laporte crew?
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Antiliar wrote:Again Snakes, thanks for the input. I'll make the adjustments, but do you have links to Mary Ferrell where documents show these connections? The Mannos, I think, were under Giancana. I haven't seen them linked to any Chicago Hts people. Same with the Fischettis. They lived in the North Side and Florida, sometimes operated in Cicero (where two crews operated, Aiuppa and Buccieri), but don't see them linked to either Buccieri or Aiuppa. For the Virruso/Virrussos, I know they moved to Florida but had to report or kick up to someone, so had to be under someone, especially before they moved there.
Santo (Sam) Virruso was a pretty influential guy in Chicago before and after he moved to Florida. He was tried in absentia in Sicily for the murders of three brothers and when it came time to deport him in 1934, U.S. Commissioner Edwin K. Walker ruled there wasn’t sufficient evidence against Virruso so he remained a free man. In 1936, Virruso was the prime suspect in the Chicago murder of State Representative Alfred Prignano but again there wasn’t enough evidence to convict him. Virruso eventually made his way to Florida in the 1960s or so where he enjoyed his income from real estate holdings and died there in 1976 at the age of 82. I don't know what crew in Chicago he belonged to, but I suspect Chicago Heights.
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The 63 Chart is coming along. It'll be much more accurate than the current one.

But I must ask, there are photos I need:

Frank Eulo
Charles Giancana
Joseph Giancana
Jeff Manno
Pasquale Manno
Sam Rosa

Rocco DeStefano
Joseph fischetti
Romeo Nappi
Charles Niciosa

Steve Annoreno
Frank Beto
Anthony Catalano
George Colucci
Ronald De Angelis
Joseph Eldorado
Joseph Grisafe
Salvatore Marcello
Tony Monaco
Andrew Sarcello
John Schriverelli
Chris Seritella
Angelo Severino
Joseph Spadavecchio
Michael Tenore
Joseph Amabile
Tony Amatore
Joe Battaglia
Albert Janotta
Michael Marchese
Joseph Rocco
Joseph B. Rocco
Rocco Salvatore
Joseph Aiello "Little Joe" - not the 20's boss
James Franzone
Dom Galiano "hunk"
Joe Grieco
Frank Loverde
James Capezio
Leo Manfredi
Anthony Ortenzi
Larry Rassano
Martin Accardo
Fran Aurelli
George Bravos
Nic Bravos
Phil Mesi
Albert Sarno
Dom Senese
John Allegretti
Joe Amato
M. Caldarullo
Pasquale Clementi
Lou Czarnecki
Anthony De Rose
Alex Ross
James Tortoriello
Mugsy Tortoriello
Joe Costello
George Dicks
Sam Digiovanni
Vito Dizonno
Ralph Emery
John Formosa
August Giovenco
Joe Guzzino
Frank Luzi
Sam Macaluso
Tommy Morgano
John Nicastro
Ernest Sansone

James Aducci
Joe Fischetti
Rocco Destefano
John Laino
Romeo Nappi
Charles Nicosia.


Any help would be appreciated.
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Chris Christie wrote:The 63 Chart is coming along. It'll be much more accurate than the current one.

But I must ask, there are photos I need:

Frank Eulo
Charles Giancana
Joseph Giancana
Jeff Manno
Pasquale Manno
Sam Rosa

Rocco DeStefano
Joseph fischetti
Romeo Nappi
Charles Niciosa

Steve Annoreno
Frank Beto
Anthony Catalano
George Colucci
Ronald De Angelis
Joseph Eldorado
Joseph Grisafe
Salvatore Marcello
Tony Monaco
Andrew Sarcello
John Schriverelli
Chris Seritella
Angelo Severino
Joseph Spadavecchio
Michael Tenore
Joseph Amabile
Tony Amatore
Joe Battaglia
Albert Janotta
Michael Marchese
Joseph Rocco
Joseph B. Rocco
Rocco Salvatore
Joseph Aiello "Little Joe" - not the 20's boss
James Franzone
Dom Galiano "hunk"
Joe Grieco
Frank Loverde
James Capezio
Leo Manfredi
Anthony Ortenzi
Larry Rassano
Martin Accardo
Fran Aurelli
George Bravos
Nic Bravos
Phil Mesi
Albert Sarno
Dom Senese
John Allegretti
Joe Amato
M. Caldarullo
Pasquale Clementi
Lou Czarnecki
Anthony De Rose
Alex Ross
James Tortoriello
Mugsy Tortoriello
Joe Costello
George Dicks
Sam Digiovanni
Vito Dizonno
Ralph Emery
John Formosa
August Giovenco
Joe Guzzino
Frank Luzi
Sam Macaluso
Tommy Morgano
John Nicastro
Ernest Sansone

James Aducci
Joe Fischetti
Rocco Destefano
John Laino
Romeo Nappi
Charles Nicosia.


Any help would be appreciated.
Here's few Chris..

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Chuck Giancana(this photo is from Giancana family album and its very rare)

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John Nicastro

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John Formosa

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James Aducci

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This is the only photo i have from Patt Manno( taking an oath)

Also you can look for some pics in the Chicago Mob photos thread
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Some of those guys you listed were small fries in the big picture of the Outfit, I doubt any public pictures exist for probably 3/4 of them.
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Thanks Villain. Much appreciated.
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Chris Christie wrote:Thanks Villain but I can't view them. It just has a box that says image.
I dont know man, i can view them just fine. If the problem continues, give me your e-mail and ill send them to you
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Villain wrote:
Chris Christie wrote:Thanks Villain but I can't view them. It just has a box that says image.
I dont know man, i can view them just fine. If the problem continues, give me your e-mail and ill send them to you
I hit refresh a few times and they appeared. Many thanks!
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Snakes wrote:Some of those guys you listed were small fries in the big picture of the Outfit, I doubt any public pictures exist for probably 3/4 of them.
Honestly, I'm surprised and fortunate that I acquired as many photos as I have. With the 63 Philly chart, I had 80 made members and 30 photos, in the end I made a decision to only list those I had photos of. It still turned out ok... Chicago I have enough photos to keep it interesting.

I imagine there will be disagreements as to who was in what crew, but the structure is more accurate than the original 63 chart.

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http://s8.postimg.org/wyxae71o5/chi63test.png

I still need to add the Connection Guys and those from the "Non-Member" Chart. There was a drug ring that allegedly answered to Giancana, I may include that even though they weren't Outfit members. It's coming along well.
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I have a nice photo of Fred, Nick and Sam Manno probably taken in the 1940s
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Chris Christie wrote:
Villain wrote:
Chris Christie wrote:Thanks Villain but I can't view them. It just has a box that says image.
I dont know man, i can view them just fine. If the problem continues, give me your e-mail and ill send them to you
I hit refresh a few times and they appeared. Many thanks!
No problem man. Heres some advice, there are a lot of pictures of unknown gangsters in the Chicago tribune archives so if I find some of those names during my researches ill let you know
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