Stanfa family chart request

[Angelo Santino]

Anthony Viesti was soldier Bobby Lumio's cousin and Viesti was also Ralph Natale's best friend.

Interesting how Viesti never got made considering how close he was to Natale. especially how the family was hurting for new members during that time.

I've come across a lot of guys like that... Italians who were close to the right people, maybe even related, and had more qualifications than some of the guys who got made, but they never got it.

Another guy who I'm surprised hasn't been made is Anthony Accardo. In the 90s he was all over the surveillance footage with Merlino, Mazzone, Borgesi, etc and he was of course one of those busted with them in the 2000 inictment. He did his time and stood up yet he was never made. Unless of course he was one of the Merlino guy's that Ligambi didn't want to make because he didn't know them well enough. There were 3 of those I believe. He may have been one of them.


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Daniel Daidone, Frank D'Alfonso from years back (speculated in the news that he was Bruno's successor).

It's strange, while Natale was on the street, he and Merlino operated separately. Natale was engaging directly in drug deals, Merlino ran whatever hierarchy was in South Philly. S. Jersey seems like a semi-defunct area, so Previte's capo status, which I find questionable, might has been as simple as Ralph saying: "You're our guy in S. Jersey." I would call him the poor man's Spilotro in that he had an area that he represented, no made guys under him and he was an informant the entire time. This is my own speculation, feel free to correct me.

South Jersey was, until Leonetti, a Sicilian-American crew, going back to Barrale and then the Scafidis. Throughout the 80's and 90's, the areas of Chester, S. Jersey became defunct, Trenton too seems to have dwindled, leaving S.Philly and Newark. Joe Ligambi seems to have made Staino a south Jersey captain but he didn't seem to have much of a crew. Calling him Sparacio's successor isn't accurate as their's no formal transition of power, let alone an official crew, but associations most likely carried over. In an illogical succession of area representation it would be Sparacio, Previte and then Staino. Correct?

So Licata in N.Jersey. Stain in S.Jersey. Lancilotti in S.Philly. Who else was considered a captain recently?

[Pogo The Clown]

So Licata in N.Jersey. Stain in S.Jersey. Lancilotti in S.Philly. Who else was considered a captain recently?

Marty Angelina (Gaeton Lucibello before him) also in South Philly. George Borgesi also has/had (at least until 2011) Capo status but his crew was made up of Associates. One group of Associates in South Philly/South Jersey run by his brother Anthony Borgesi and another in Delaware County run by Lous "Ben Finger Lou" Manacello (until he flipped of course).


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[Angelo Santino]

So Licata in N.Jersey. Stain in S.Jersey. Lancilotti in S.Philly. Who else was considered a captain recently?

Marty Angelina (Gaeton Lucibello before him) also in South Philly. George Borgesi also has/had (at least until 2011) Capo status but his crew was made up of Associates. One group of Associates in South Philly/South Jersey run by his brother Anthony Borgesi and another in Delaware County run by Lous "Ben Finger Lou" Manacello (until he flipped of course).


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Interesting how South Philly warranted three or more crews. Assocs. or otherwise.

[B.]

Another guy who I'm surprised hasn't been made is Anthony Accardo. In the 90s he was all over the surveillance footage with Merlino, Mazzone, Borgesi, etc and he was of course one of those busted with them in the 2000 inictment. He did his time and stood up yet he was never made. Unless of course he was one of the Merlino guy's that Ligambi didn't want to make because he didn't know them well enough. There were 3 of those I believe. He may have been one of them.

I think Accardo may also be a cousin of the Merlinos. I don't think Ligambi would have shot him down, though, as he is well-known to the family. I got the impression the three guys he wouldn't make were outsiders but who knows. Will have to watch for some new faces around the family now that Merlino is out. That part of the tape stands out because it makes it clear that even though Merlino was still the boss, Ligambi made his own decisions.

South Jersey was, until Leonetti, a Sicilian-American crew, going back to Barrale and then the Scafidis. Throughout the 80's and 90's, the areas of Chester, S. Jersey became defunct, Trenton too seems to have dwindled, leaving S.Philly and Newark. Joe Ligambi seems to have made Staino a south Jersey captain but he didn't seem to have much of a crew. Calling him Sparacio's successor isn't accurate as their's no formal transition of power, let alone an official crew, but associations most likely carried over. In an illogical succession of area representation it would be Sparacio, Previte and then Staino. Correct?

So Licata in N.Jersey. Stain in S.Jersey. Lancilotti in S.Philly. Who else was considered a captain recently?

The Cumberland county crew was a Sicilian crew under Barrale and Joe Scafidi, but the Atlantic county crew was run by Skinny DiTullio and was definitely not Sicilian. That crew split off from Reginelli's Camden crew which also wasn't Sicilian. The South Jersey crew you're talking about was a very insular group primarily from Belmonte Mezzagno who operated in Vineland/Bridgeton and was barely active by the time Scarfo took over. The Leonetti crew would be a continuation of the DiTullio crew, which went to Freddy Iezzi after DiTullio.

These are basically the South Jersey crews that existed at different times:
- Vineland/Bridgeton
- Atlantic City 1
- Atlantic City 2
- Camden
- Trenton

AC 1 would be the crew Leonetti took over and AC 2 would be Larry Merlino's crew. Now the question there is whether there was an actual succession, or if both of them were given brand new crews and members of old crews were simply distributed to them. These guys don't always have straightforward successions.

The history of the Trenton crew is something I'd like to find more about... the Newark crew split off from the Trenton crew under Simone, but where did the Trenton crew come from before Simone was promoted? I originally thought they were under Ignazio Denaro and Simone took it over when Denaro got upped, but it doesn't look like Denaro got upped until after Simone was already a captain. The only Trenton members I'm aware of were more or less contemporaries of Simone so I don't know of anyone he could have inherited it from. It probably split off from a Philly-based crew.

[Angelo Santino]

Didn't Leonetti state he took over the Scafidi crew or am I mistaken?

[B.]

Didn't Leonetti state he took over the Scafidi crew or am I mistaken?

Hmm, I don't remember it unless he mentions it in his book. I think Samuel Scafidi did end up reporting to him, so maybe he inherited what was left of that crew. The Scafidi crew was always based in Bridgeton, though, and didn't have much if anything going on in AC, where Leonetti's crew was based.

[Angelo Santino]

Didn't Leonetti state he took over the Scafidi crew or am I mistaken?

Hmm, I don't remember it unless he mentions it in his book. I think Samuel Scafidi did end up reporting to him, so maybe he inherited what was left of that crew. The Scafidi crew was always based in Bridgeton, though, and didn't have much if anything going on in AC, where Leonetti's crew was based.

I believe Pogo told me this awhile back.

[B.]

Didn't Leonetti state he took over the Scafidi crew or am I mistaken?

Hmm, I don't remember it unless he mentions it in his book. I think Samuel Scafidi did end up reporting to him, so maybe he inherited what was left of that crew. The Scafidi crew was always based in Bridgeton, though, and didn't have much if anything going on in AC, where Leonetti's crew was based.

I believe Pogo told me this awhile back.

That sounds like something a white supremacist would say.

[Ivan]

According to this article, Veasey testified that Gallara was a made guy. I've never seen that claim made anywhere else though.

http://articles.philly.com/1996-03-20/n ... no-mob-war

[B.]

Thanks for finding that. I don't know much about Stanfa's making ceremonies and all of that. I feel like I remember reading that Veasey was made with somebody else, and if so, I am sure Pogo knows.

Gallara could have definitely been a candidate to get made, though. I don't know why he got the nickname "Joe Stanfa" but you'd think he must have been close to Stanfa to get away with it.

[Ivan]

Thanks for finding that. I don't know much about Stanfa's making ceremonies and all of that. I feel like I remember reading that Veasey was made with somebody else, and if so, I am sure Pogo knows.

No problem. I actually found by trying to find out more about the enigmatic Shotsie Sparacio (who is still alive, apparently). That poor guy got really hammered at sentencing in my opinion.

Veasey was made in some hotel alongside Vincent Fillipelli.

[B.]

Thanks for finding that. I don't know much about Stanfa's making ceremonies and all of that. I feel like I remember reading that Veasey was made with somebody else, and if so, I am sure Pogo knows.

No problem. I actually found by trying to find out more about the enigmatic Shotsie Sparacio (who is still alive, apparently). That poor guy got really hammered at sentencing in my opinion.

Veasey was made in some hotel alongside Vincent Fillipelli.

Ah yeah, thanks.

I just re-read the article you posted and I think I misinterpreted it the first time. It doesn't say that Veasey and Gallara were necessarily made in the same ceremony, only that they were both made for doing work.

Agreed on Shotsie. He had been a successful bookmaker for the family for decades before he even got made. Now there's a guy who should have written a book about his life, could probably say a lot from being an associate during the Bruno era, soldier during Scarfo, and captain under Stanfa. He spoke out early on and said it might not be a good idea to make Stanfa the boss, and of course he was right.

[Pogo The Clown]

"Who the fuck is Shotsie?" - John Veasey


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[Ivan]

Agreed on Shotsie. He had been a successful bookmaker for the family for decades before he even got made. Now there's a guy who should have written a book about his life, could probably say a lot from being an associate during the Bruno era, soldier during Scarfo, and captain under Stanfa. He spoke out early on and said it might not be a good idea to make Stanfa the boss, and of course he was right.

The articles I read in my research made it sound that the judge was lazily following federal sentencing guidelines without really factoring in Shotsie's circumstances, though I'm not sure if the judge was not totally bound by the guidelines.

Here's the articles I found; most are worth reading.

https://www.google.com/search?q=shotsie ... 3&filter=0

This one is especially interesting as the jurors discuss what compelled them to convict Sparacio of murder conspiracy.

http://articles.philly.com/1996-02-25/n ... erlino-mob

Another interesting thing that I read was that, according to Rosario Bellochi, the dead fish in the box left to scare Shotsie was actually ordered put there by Stanfa himself, not by the Merlino faction. Which makes sense, as it sounds more like a weird Sicilian thing than an American scare tactic.

I know Sparacio complained to others about Stanfa when he was boss, but I've never heard about him objecting when Stanfa was about to take over. Do you know any more details about this?

[Pogo The Clown]

"Who the fuck is Shotsie?" - John Veasey

This was Veasey's response when a guy he was trying to collect a street tax from said he was already paying Shotsie.


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