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[SonnyBlackstein]

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/ ... story.html

[Wiseguy]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/italian-pr ... 1579948200

20,000 members for the Ndrangheta alone, jesus.

That's an extreme outlier. I've never seen a figure that big for any of the Italian syndicates. The FBI has the Ndrangheta at 6,000 members. One scholar had it at 4,500.

If the Cosa Nostra has 3,500 - 5,000 members, or the Camorra with 7,000 members, it's hard to justify that 20,000 for the Ndrangheta.

[Strax]

That's an extreme outlier. I've never seen a figure that big for any of the Italian syndicates. The FBI has the Ndrangheta at 6,000 members. One scholar had it at 4,500.

If the Cosa Nostra has 3,500 - 5,000 members, or the Camorra with 7,000 members, it's hard to justify that 20,000 for the Ndrangheta.

With all associates there are 20,000 or even more. But "made" members around 5000-6000. In Calabria you have whole towns that are affiliated or related to 'Ndrangheta.

[Strax]

Nicola Gratteri the chief prosecutor of Catanzaro, is facing even bigger risk now than before, he is trying to cut mafia ties to masonic lodges and secret services. His security is strengthened.

During 'Stato-Mafia' trial, 4 witnesses disappeared from witness protection program,it is believed that same people who are behind disappearances might try to kill Nicola Gratteri

[AntComello]

Nicola Gratteri the chief prosecutor of Catanzaro, is facing even bigger risk now than before, he is trying to cut mafia ties to masonic lodges and secret services. His security is strengthened.

During 'Stato-Mafia' trial, 4 witnesses disappeared from witness protection program,it is believed that same people who are behind disappearances might try to kill Nicola Gratteri

If they do kill Gratteri would it be as big or bigger then the Borsellino and falcone murders?

[scagghiuni]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/italian-pr ... 1579948200

20,000 members for the Ndrangheta alone, jesus.

they included the associates, the made members are probably 5.000, the same as sicilian mafia

[Strax]

If they do kill Gratteri would it be as big or bigger then the Borsellino and falcone murders?

Even bigger i think , Falcone was alone and isolated , Gratteri has support from legitimate powers from Rome.

But i don't think they are going to kill him,that would be stupid move, same thing will happen like with Sicilian mafia in 1990's. The powerful people from Rome, masonic lodges and secret services will leave sinking ship and let calabrians go down alone.

When Sicilian mafia wanted to kill Di Matteo back in 2012, Matteo Messina Denaro just said to Palermo bosses "It must be done" and it had to be done with bomb in Rome or Palermo.

According to informant order came from same people who ordered deaths of Falcone and Borsellino.

[scagghiuni]

the ndrangheta has not a boss of bosses like riina if some clan want to kill gratteri many others would disagree so i bet gratteri is safe

[Wiseguy]

That's an extreme outlier. I've never seen a figure that big for any of the Italian syndicates. The FBI has the Ndrangheta at 6,000 members. One scholar had it at 4,500.

If the Cosa Nostra has 3,500 - 5,000 members, or the Camorra with 7,000 members, it's hard to justify that 20,000 for the Ndrangheta.

With all associates there are 20,000 or even more. But "made" members around 5000-6000. In Calabria you have whole towns that are affiliated or related to 'Ndrangheta.

Including associates it would likely be even more.

[Chopper]

Doesnt the ndrangheta have different levels of being made? I think I read that in a book years ago but I'm not sure.

The 20,000 figure would actually be on the low side if you include associates. Just made it's probably way to high.

[maxiestern11]

Doesnt the ndrangheta have different levels of being made? I think I read that in a book years ago but I'm not sure.

The 20,000 figure would actually be on the low side if you include associates. Just made it's probably way to high.

Yes, it’s crazy. I still can’t wrap my head around their structure. Very, very intricate and confusing.

Cosa Nostra/Mafia is much more clean cut.

[Strax]

Doesnt the ndrangheta have different levels of being made? I think I read that in a book years ago but I'm not sure.

The 20,000 figure would actually be on the low side if you include associates. Just made it's probably way to high.

Yes, it’s crazy. I still can’t wrap my head around their structure. Very, very intricate and confusing.

Cosa Nostra/Mafia is much more clean cut.

'Ndrangheta is separated into 2 societies, Minor society and Major society.
Minor society

1. Giovane d’onore - It's not a real rank but it is assigned to babies born in 'Ndrangheta families,one day they can become full members.

2.Contrasto - trusted associate

3.Contrasto Onorato - literally means honored associate

4.Picciotto d'Onore - Lowest rank , just someone who is running around executing orders.

5.Camorrista - same like number 4,but with more trust and experience, and they are given orders/tasks that 4. cannot perform.

6.Sgarrista or Camorrista of Sgarro - Camorrista with important position,last rank in Minor society.

Major society

1.Santista - first and lowest rank of Major society

2.Vangelo - Also called "Evangelist",these are members that complete initiation, they swore allegiance to 'Ndrnagheta by putting his hand on a photo of the gospel.

3.Quartino

4.Trequartino

5.Padrino o Quintino - highest rank of 'Ndrangheta meaning "The Godfather".

There are some more ranks discovered in 2010,regarding highest members of 'La Santa'. Politicians , freemasonry members,secret service members can become part of 'La Santa'.

Crociata

Stella

Bartolo

Mammasantissima

Infinito

Conte Ugolino

[maxiestern11]

Doesnt the ndrangheta have different levels of being made? I think I read that in a book years ago but I'm not sure.

The 20,000 figure would actually be on the low side if you include associates. Just made it's probably way to high.

Yes, it’s crazy. I still can’t wrap my head around their structure. Very, very intricate and confusing.

Cosa Nostra/Mafia is much more clean cut.

'Ndrangheta is separated into 2 societies, Minor society and Major society.
Minor society

1. Giovane d’onore - It's not a real rank but it is assigned to babies born in 'Ndrangheta families,one day they can become full members.

2.Contrasto - trusted associate

3.Contrasto Onorato - literally means honored associate

4.Picciotto d'Onore - Lowest rank , just someone who is running around executing orders.

5.Camorrista - same like number 4,but with more trust and experience, and they are given orders/tasks that 4. cannot perform.

6.Sgarrista or Camorrista of Sgarro - Camorrista with important position,last rank in Minor society.

Major society

1.Santista - first and lowest rank of Major society

2.Vangelo - Also called "Evangelist",these are members that complete initiation, they swore allegiance to 'Ndrnagheta by putting his hand on a photo of the gospel.

3.Quartino

4.Trequartino

5.Padrino o Quintino - highest rank of 'Ndrangheta meaning "The Godfather".

There are some more ranks discovered in 2010,regarding highest members of 'La Santa'. Politicians , freemasonry members,secret service members can become part of 'La Santa'.

Crociata

Stella

Bartolo

Mammasantissima

Infinito

Conte Ugolino

thanks for that Strax. So in other words, from what I'm reading from your post up, until an N'dranghetista reaches level # 2 of the "Majori or Major society rank, they are ALL just different levels of "associates" for lack of a better word? right?......At Level #2, then they are "officially" (INDUCTED). Yes?

And from that point on, climb the ladder into a higher "capo" or comparable position to the Cosa Nostra. But until that time, they are all associates trusted to varying levels and responsibilities.

[scagghiuni]

thanks for that Strax. So in other words, from what I'm reading from your post up, until an N'dranghetista reaches level # 2 of the "Majori or Major society rank, they are ALL just different levels of "associates" for lack of a better word? right?......At Level #2, then they are "officially" (INDUCTED). Yes?

And from that point on, climb the ladder into a higher "capo" or comparable position to the Cosa Nostra. But until that time, they are all associates trusted to varying levels and responsibilities.

no, a picciotto d'onore is just made trough a ceremony of initiation (the last part is the same as cosa nostra, the saint burning etc.), contrasto onorato is still an associate, the others are higher ranks

[mafiastudent]

I got this from the /mafia forum on Reddit

The video makes me think they're hoping to make a COPS type program out of what they're doing....

-Can project against 'Ndrangheta in the world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbyl8So ... ex=68&t=7s

Interpol press release:

REGGIO CALABRIA, Italy – Today saw the launch of the INTERPOL Cooperation Against ‘Ndrangheta (I-CAN) project, a joint initiative with Italy to combat the increasingly insidious and global threat of mafia-type crime.

Funded by the Italian Department of Public Security, the project will focus on the 'Ndrangheta which is the most extensive and powerful criminal organization in the world.

Present in 32 Countries, 17 of which are European, the 'Ndrangheta is supported by its enormous financial power built mainly on drug trafficking, corruption and the diversion of public funds through fraud and rigged contracts.

"We need a global approach to counter a global threat. We have promoted a targeted project with INTERPOL for a global attack to eradicate it, involving the State Police, the Carabinieri and the Guardia di Finanza,” said Prefect Vittorio Rizzi, Deputy Director General of Public Security.

Whilst the project will initially be focusing on specific countries, the ultimate goal of the I-CAN project is to enhance the ability of law enforcement worldwide to more effectively identify and combat mafia-type organizations.

I-CAN will be developed across three pillars;

Content – Building on Italy’s direct experience and knowledge of the threat posed by Ndrangheta, its structure and how it operates.

Access - Making this vital policing information available to the targeted countries, in order to identify patterns, trends and potential targets for law enforcement.

Action - Coordination of joint investigations with national law enforcement to identify and arrest individuals wanted in connection with Ndrangheta-linked activities.

“The Ndrangheta is among the richest and most powerful organized crime groups. It has

repeatedly proven its skill in infiltrating political and economic environments, and a remarkable capacity for corruption,” said INTERPOL Secretary General Jürgen Stock.

“Whilst there have been successes at the bilateral level, the I-CAN project will see increased cooperation and operational activity between countries using INTERPOL as a global platform,” added the INTERPOL Chief.

How the 'Ndrangheta works

Profits are reinvested using sophisticated money laundering techniques. In many countries what appears to be ‘clean’ funding eventually has the effect of polluting, corrupting and strangling the economy as it changes the mechanisms of competition and drives honest entrepreneurs out of the market.

The control of public procurement does not usually involve violence or intimidation but is through the establishment of companies which use collusion and corruption.

The 'Ndrangheta has acquired direct or indirect control of companies operating across all areas of society including the construction, catering, import and export, transport, gaming and betting, waste collection and disposal businesses.

Taking advantage of advances in technology, the 'Ndrangheta also uses the deepweb and Darknet to carry out illicit commerce.