JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:46 pm
Wow. Didn't realize Youngstown had so much going on. Guess why it was nicknamed mafia town....
Napa... U said if Joey Naples allowed buffalino... Wouldn't it more be the other way around....?
Technically Naples was only a soldier even tho really a capo as well as a "territory boss"
Naples reported directly to Kelly Mannarino until 1980 when Kelly died, Mannarino was one of Bufalino’s closest friends outside of their business, they vacationed together for years and their wives spent a lot of time together. Bufalino had the waste hauling scheme in Youngstown for years, it was worked out long before Mannarino passed away. Pittsburgh’s business model had territory bosses since its inception. Naples was formally made in 1987 along with Lenine Strollo. Prior to that, he was Jimmy Prato’s protege and successor, Prato and Mannarino were tight. Joey was respected as a high ranking associate. He worked particularly well with D’Elia and Bufalino along with Chucky Porter who was Mike Genovese’s conduits to other family bosses, mainly Bufalino and Scarfo in the 1980’s, D’Elia represented RB while RB was in prison.
Is there any books I can get??
Nothing really on Pitts at all.
The only buffalo post magadino years is Mob Nemesis. Is that good?
"I figure I’m gonna have to do about 6000 years before I get accepted into heaven. And 6000 years is nothing in eternity terms. I can do that standing on my head. It’s like a couple of days here."
Bufalino book was not enjoyable IMO. Not much on RB, more on D’Elia & DeNaples saga. Bufalino needs a well researched biography...The Irishman movie pushed Bufalino’s quiet leadership to the forefront, searches online went up 10 fold.
"I figure I’m gonna have to do about 6000 years before I get accepted into heaven. And 6000 years is nothing in eternity terms. I can do that standing on my head. It’s like a couple of days here."
JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:46 pm
Wow. Didn't realize Youngstown had so much going on. Guess why it was nicknamed mafia town....
Napa... U said if Joey Naples allowed buffalino... Wouldn't it more be the other way around....?
Technically Naples was only a soldier even tho really a capo as well as a "territory boss"
Yes and No. I think regardless of rank Youngstown was Youngstown’s. By that I mean they would work with other families in a mutually beneficial situation but they weren’t going to let someone from another family outearn them in their town. D’elia was a whiz when it came to the garbage business and in the end of Bufalino’s time on the street it allowed them to make huge money once the garment business declined and the number of envelopes coming Bufalino’s way was shrinking by the day.
Don’t sleep on how much action was going on in Youngstown back then fellas. Tons of money changing hands and bodies dropping like flies. I’ve heard a few stories from Dickie. If any of those guys were anything like him it’s a scary thought. Absolute stone cold maniac.
I’m coming in late here, but Bufalino did NOT run Youngstown. Different crews, he had no jurisdiction there. He may have did a few deals there (with approval I might add). But his was Pittston-Scranton, and the general Binghamton area and parts of upstate NY.... period!
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Same as any crew. You just don’t decide to tread over other people “property” and area
Youngstown wasn’t its own entity. In the 1960’s, there were representatives from Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo and Detroit all living in Youngstown and kicking their earnings up to the bosses in their families. By the 70’s, Pittsburgh and Vlebeland has made guys running their territories. Pittsburgh and Cleveland Mob families worked very close with Detroit, Buffalo, Scranton/Wiles-Barre/Pittston and Philly. Guys like Bufalino, Mannarino, Angelo Lonardo, Zerilli and Maggadino all came from the same background, many of them had mutual interests...especially the Sans Souci Hotel & Casino in Havana. The greater Youngstown area was divided in two territories with Pittsburgh controlling a majority of it by 1980. Pittsburgh also controlled parts of Western New York/into Erie, PA, Wherling, WV and all of Western PA. That’s a vast territory. But Youngstown was never its own entity.
"I figure I’m gonna have to do about 6000 years before I get accepted into heaven. And 6000 years is nothing in eternity terms. I can do that standing on my head. It’s like a couple of days here."
JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:46 pm
Wow. Didn't realize Youngstown had so much going on. Guess why it was nicknamed mafia town....
Napa... U said if Joey Naples allowed buffalino... Wouldn't it more be the other way around....?
Technically Naples was only a soldier even tho really a capo as well as a "territory boss"
Yes and No. I think regardless of rank Youngstown was Youngstown’s. By that I mean they would work with other families in a mutually beneficial situation but they weren’t going to let someone from another family outearn them in their town. D’elia was a whiz when it came to the garbage business and in the end of Bufalino’s time on the street it allowed them to make huge money once the garment business declined and the number of envelopes coming Bufalino’s way was shrinking by the day.
Don’t sleep on how much action was going on in Youngstown back then fellas. Tons of money changing hands and bodies dropping like flies. I’ve heard a few stories from Dickie. If any of those guys were anything like him it’s a scary thought. Absolute stone cold maniac.
I’m coming in late here, but Bufalino did NOT run Youngstown. Different crews, he had no jurisdiction there. He may have did a few deals there (with approval I might add). But his was Pittston-Scranton, and the general Binghamton area and parts of upstate NY.... period!
-
Same as any crew. You just don’t decide to tread over other people “property” and area
Youngstown wasn’t its own entity. In the 1960’s, there were representatives from Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo and Detroit all living in Youngstown and kicking their earnings up to the bosses in their families. By the 70’s, Pittsburgh and Vlebeland has made guys running their territories. Pittsburgh and Cleveland Mob families worked very close with Detroit, Buffalo, Scranton/Wiles-Barre/Pittston and Philly. Guys like Bufalino, Mannarino, Angelo Lonardo, Zerilli and Maggadino all came from the same background, many of them had mutual interests...especially the Sans Souci Hotel & Casino in Havana. The greater Youngstown area was divided in two territories with Pittsburgh controlling a majority of it by 1980. Pittsburgh also controlled parts of Western New York/into Erie, PA, Wherling, WV and all of Western PA. That’s a vast territory. But Youngstown was never its own entity.
Yeah it's fascinating how many LCN families had things going on in the Youngstown area. Detroit soldier Nick Ditta got caught on an illegal wiretap talking about his involvement in the 1960s Youngstown violence. He essentially took "credit" for the Cavallaro bombing. He may have just been boasting, but it's interesting.
JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:46 pm
Wow. Didn't realize Youngstown had so much going on. Guess why it was nicknamed mafia town....
Napa... U said if Joey Naples allowed buffalino... Wouldn't it more be the other way around....?
Technically Naples was only a soldier even tho really a capo as well as a "territory boss"
Yes and No. I think regardless of rank Youngstown was Youngstown’s. By that I mean they would work with other families in a mutually beneficial situation but they weren’t going to let someone from another family outearn them in their town. D’elia was a whiz when it came to the garbage business and in the end of Bufalino’s time on the street it allowed them to make huge money once the garment business declined and the number of envelopes coming Bufalino’s way was shrinking by the day.
Don’t sleep on how much action was going on in Youngstown back then fellas. Tons of money changing hands and bodies dropping like flies. I’ve heard a few stories from Dickie. If any of those guys were anything like him it’s a scary thought. Absolute stone cold maniac.
I’m coming in late here, but Bufalino did NOT run Youngstown. Different crews, he had no jurisdiction there. He may have did a few deals there (with approval I might add). But his was Pittston-Scranton, and the general Binghamton area and parts of upstate NY.... period!
-
Same as any crew. You just don’t decide to tread over other people “property” and area
Youngstown wasn’t its own entity. In the 1960’s, there were representatives from Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo and Detroit all living in Youngstown and kicking their earnings up to the bosses in their families. By the 70’s, Pittsburgh and Vlebeland has made guys running their territories. Pittsburgh and Cleveland Mob families worked very close with Detroit, Buffalo, Scranton/Wiles-Barre/Pittston and Philly. Guys like Bufalino, Mannarino, Angelo Lonardo, Zerilli and Maggadino all came from the same background, many of them had mutual interests...especially the Sans Souci Hotel & Casino in Havana. The greater Youngstown area was divided in two territories with Pittsburgh controlling a majority of it by 1980. Pittsburgh also controlled parts of Western New York/into Erie, PA, Wherling, WV and all of Western PA. That’s a vast territory. But Youngstown was never its own entity.
Yeah it's fascinating how many LCN families had things going on in the Youngstown area. Detroit soldier Nick Ditta got caught on an illegal wiretap talking about his involvement in the 1960s Youngstown violence. He essentially took "credit" for the Cavallaro bombing. He may have just been boasting, but it's interesting.
Took credit for the Cavallaro bombing?
"I figure I’m gonna have to do about 6000 years before I get accepted into heaven. And 6000 years is nothing in eternity terms. I can do that standing on my head. It’s like a couple of days here."
JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:46 pm
Wow. Didn't realize Youngstown had so much going on. Guess why it was nicknamed mafia town....
Napa... U said if Joey Naples allowed buffalino... Wouldn't it more be the other way around....?
Technically Naples was only a soldier even tho really a capo as well as a "territory boss"
Yes and No. I think regardless of rank Youngstown was Youngstown’s. By that I mean they would work with other families in a mutually beneficial situation but they weren’t going to let someone from another family outearn them in their town. D’elia was a whiz when it came to the garbage business and in the end of Bufalino’s time on the street it allowed them to make huge money once the garment business declined and the number of envelopes coming Bufalino’s way was shrinking by the day.
Don’t sleep on how much action was going on in Youngstown back then fellas. Tons of money changing hands and bodies dropping like flies. I’ve heard a few stories from Dickie. If any of those guys were anything like him it’s a scary thought. Absolute stone cold maniac.
I’m coming in late here, but Bufalino did NOT run Youngstown. Different crews, he had no jurisdiction there. He may have did a few deals there (with approval I might add). But his was Pittston-Scranton, and the general Binghamton area and parts of upstate NY.... period!
-
Same as any crew. You just don’t decide to tread over other people “property” and area
Youngstown wasn’t its own entity. In the 1960’s, there were representatives from Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo and Detroit all living in Youngstown and kicking their earnings up to the bosses in their families. By the 70’s, Pittsburgh and Vlebeland has made guys running their territories. Pittsburgh and Cleveland Mob families worked very close with Detroit, Buffalo, Scranton/Wiles-Barre/Pittston and Philly. Guys like Bufalino, Mannarino, Angelo Lonardo, Zerilli and Maggadino all came from the same background, many of them had mutual interests...especially the Sans Souci Hotel & Casino in Havana. The greater Youngstown area was divided in two territories with Pittsburgh controlling a majority of it by 1980. Pittsburgh also controlled parts of Western New York/into Erie, PA, Wherling, WV and all of Western PA. That’s a vast territory. But Youngstown was never its own entity.
Yeah it's fascinating how many LCN families had things going on in the Youngstown area. Detroit soldier Nick Ditta got caught on an illegal wiretap talking about his involvement in the 1960s Youngstown violence. He essentially took "credit" for the Cavallaro bombing. He may have just been boasting, but it's interesting.
Took credit for the Cavallaro bombing?
Yeah he tells the story of planting the bomb on Cavallaro's car in the garage, mentions seeing one of the sons, almost getting caught, and witnessing the actual explosion. He adds in some details that don't match what actually happened, so he either is changing the story while describing it or he's just making the whole thing up. But Ditta was definitely in Youngstown around the time Cavallaro was killed and they definitely knew each other.
JeremyTheJew wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:46 pm
Wow. Didn't realize Youngstown had so much going on. Guess why it was nicknamed mafia town....
Napa... U said if Joey Naples allowed buffalino... Wouldn't it more be the other way around....?
Technically Naples was only a soldier even tho really a capo as well as a "territory boss"
Yes and No. I think regardless of rank Youngstown was Youngstown’s. By that I mean they would work with other families in a mutually beneficial situation but they weren’t going to let someone from another family outearn them in their town. D’elia was a whiz when it came to the garbage business and in the end of Bufalino’s time on the street it allowed them to make huge money once the garment business declined and the number of envelopes coming Bufalino’s way was shrinking by the day.
Don’t sleep on how much action was going on in Youngstown back then fellas. Tons of money changing hands and bodies dropping like flies. I’ve heard a few stories from Dickie. If any of those guys were anything like him it’s a scary thought. Absolute stone cold maniac.
I’m coming in late here, but Bufalino did NOT run Youngstown. Different crews, he had no jurisdiction there. He may have did a few deals there (with approval I might add). But his was Pittston-Scranton, and the general Binghamton area and parts of upstate NY.... period!
-
Same as any crew. You just don’t decide to tread over other people “property” and area
Youngstown wasn’t its own entity. In the 1960’s, there were representatives from Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo and Detroit all living in Youngstown and kicking their earnings up to the bosses in their families. By the 70’s, Pittsburgh and Vlebeland has made guys running their territories. Pittsburgh and Cleveland Mob families worked very close with Detroit, Buffalo, Scranton/Wiles-Barre/Pittston and Philly. Guys like Bufalino, Mannarino, Angelo Lonardo, Zerilli and Maggadino all came from the same background, many of them had mutual interests...especially the Sans Souci Hotel & Casino in Havana. The greater Youngstown area was divided in two territories with Pittsburgh controlling a majority of it by 1980. Pittsburgh also controlled parts of Western New York/into Erie, PA, Wherling, WV and all of Western PA. That’s a vast territory. But Youngstown was never its own entity.
Yeah it's fascinating how many LCN families had things going on in the Youngstown area. Detroit soldier Nick Ditta got caught on an illegal wiretap talking about his involvement in the 1960s Youngstown violence. He essentially took "credit" for the Cavallaro bombing. He may have just been boasting, but it's interesting.
Took credit for the Cavallaro bombing?
Yeah he tells the story of planting the bomb on Cavallaro's car in the garage, mentions seeing one of the sons, almost getting caught, and witnessing the actual explosion. He adds in some details that don't match what actually happened, so he either is changing the story while describing it or he's just making the whole thing up. But Ditta was definitely in Youngstown around the time Cavallaro was killed and they definitely knew each other.
The prime suspect in the Cavallaro Bombing was Mario Guererri. There was also speculation that Paul Romeo and the Calabrian faction were behind it.
"I figure I’m gonna have to do about 6000 years before I get accepted into heaven. And 6000 years is nothing in eternity terms. I can do that standing on my head. It’s like a couple of days here."
