Joey the Clown Lombardo dead at 90

[SolarSolano]

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/ ... ago-outfit

The real life Joker from the batman detective series.

Anybody know if he had ANY influence at all on the streets of chicago? Or was he in peter one eye territory?

JIGGS

I don't think he had any influence on the streets anymore, I think he was always and most definitely more respected than Peter Gotti. Just the fact that he was in super Max at 90 years old tells you something. Almost every mob killing in the 70s early 80s, The Clown or Harry Alemans name was mentioned as probable suspects.

Lombardo was definitely in touch with the Spina that was Lombardo's proxy on the street. Vena worked for Andriacchi. Both Vena and Spina are around 50 and very wealthy/well-connected guys.

[Antiliar]

Lol a relitigation of how many made members in an outfit thread, imagine that. Wash, rinse, repeat.

The Outfit is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma, so it's only natural that we're going to guess what's left.

[Frank]

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/ ... ago-outfit

The real life Joker from the batman detective series.

Anybody know if he had ANY influence at all on the streets of chicago? Or was he in peter one eye territory?

JIGGS

I don't think he had any influence on the streets anymore, I think he was always and most definitely more respected than Peter Gotti. Just the fact that he was in super Max at 90 years old tells you something. Almost every mob killing in the 70s early 80s, The Clown or Harry Alemans name was mentioned as probable suspects.

Lombardo was definitely in touch with the Spina that was Lombardo's proxy on the street. Vena worked for Andriacchi. Both Vena and Spina are around 50 and very wealthy/well-connected guys.

Thanks for the info on Spina, but Vena is 71. I still wonder if Andriacchi is the top boss. With Solly and Vena as #1 and #2. That is why I asked earlier about Sallets assessment of the current administration. I believe most of the info we have is from the CCC, thru Scott Burnstein. It would be nice to know the FBI's perspective.

[Snakes]

Just as a general comment, Joey's death almost seems like the end of an era in more ways than one. After the death of DiFronzo, he was probably the last significant guy remaining from the "glory" years of the Outfit (Capone era to 1960s). Additionally, Lombardo's death may very well coincide with the death of the Outfit in general. As many have already pointed out, what does remain of the Outfit appears to be a group of wealthy octogenarians. There is no concrete evidence that new members have been actively recruited, let alone inducted. It's fitting that the Outfit may die with Lombardo, a man who spent nearly 30 years of his life imprisoned for the organization.

[Lupara]

Wow. DiFronzo last year and now Lombardo.

Here's a list Snakes posted of remaining members.

1. Joseph Andriacchi/87
2. Robert Bellavia/79
3. Bruno Caruso/74
4. Frank Caruso/73
5. Nicholas Cataudella/58
6. Salvatore Cataudella/66
7. Marco D'Amico/83
8. Salvatore DeLaurentis/80
9. Peter DiFronzo/85
10. Rudolph Fratto/76
11. Gary Gagliano/76
12. Nicholas Guzzino/77
13. James Inendino/78
14. Rocco Lombardo/83
15. Michael Magnafichi/57
16. James Marcello/77
17. John Matassa, Jr./68
18. Lawrence Pettit/90
19. Michael Sarno/61
20. Michael Spano, Sr./78
21. Michael Talarico/67
22. Albert Vena/71

A lot a them giys are in prison or seriously retired.

Dont wanna jump the gun but with only 22 guys and over 95% a them being in senior citizen center shitting in a diaper territory or in the cam I would say there is no outfit. Its just a bunch a geezers with reputations spread out throughout the usa. Vena is the last one r ight? What the hell is fratto consiglieri of anyhow?

JIGGS

Even Buffalo is more active than Chicago yet the feds consider the latter still viable.

[Snakes]

Leave the discussion to Lombardo and related subjects.

[moneyman]

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/ ... ago-outfit

The real life Joker from the batman detective series.

Anybody know if he had ANY influence at all on the streets of chicago? Or was he in peter one eye territory?

JIGGS

I don't think he had any influence on the streets anymore, I think he was always and most definitely more respected than Peter Gotti. Just the fact that he was in super Max at 90 years old tells you something. Almost every mob killing in the 70s early 80s, The Clown or Harry Alemans name was mentioned as probable suspects.

Lombardo was definitely in touch with the Spina that was Lombardo's proxy on the street. Vena worked for Andriacchi. Both Vena and Spina are around 50 and very wealthy/well-connected guys.

How would he be able to do this given that ADX is the most secure supermax prison in the country? Not trying to discredit you just interested to know if you could expand on this further.

[Snakes]

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/2019/ ... ago-outfit

The real life Joker from the batman detective series.

Anybody know if he had ANY influence at all on the streets of chicago? Or was he in peter one eye territory?

JIGGS

I don't think he had any influence on the streets anymore, I think he was always and most definitely more respected than Peter Gotti. Just the fact that he was in super Max at 90 years old tells you something. Almost every mob killing in the 70s early 80s, The Clown or Harry Alemans name was mentioned as probable suspects.

Lombardo was definitely in touch with the Spina that was Lombardo's proxy on the street. Vena worked for Andriacchi. Both Vena and Spina are around 50 and very wealthy/well-connected guys.

How would he be able to do this given that ADX is the most secure supermax prison in the country? Not trying to discredit you just interested to know if you could expand on this further.

This was prior to Lombardo's second imprisonment. He was seen around Chicago with Spina. Spina was a city of Chicago employee but used his work time to drive Lombardo around. It has been suggested that Lombardo used Spina, a non-felon, to communicate with the Outfit. It has also been suggested that Lombardo was put "on the shelf" after his second imprisonment or, less likely, voluntarily removed himself from Outfit affairs.

[SolarSolano]

I doubt Lombardo was talking to anyone for the last few years. I meant that Spina was still his guy on the street - if Lumbo would have come back to Chicago, Spina and his brothers would have made sure he had what was coming back to him. They were very loyal to him and have to think Christy makes sure Marion Lombardo gets checks from all of their real estate.

[Snakes]

I doubt Lombardo was talking to anyone for the last few years. I meant that Spina was still his guy on the street - if Lumbo would have come back to Chicago, Spina and his brothers would have made sure he had what was coming back to him. They were very loyal to him and have to think Christy makes sure Marion Lombardo gets checks from all of their real estate.

Yeah, definitely. It seems he was having trouble even finding an attorney at the end.

[Snakes]

Chris Spina

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[funkster]

Where is that from?

[SolarSolano]

Do Christy and the boys still meeting at the Starbucks in an undisclosed western burb near the forest preserve there Snakes? I think thats where the photo is from, no? Yes you read that correctly - those in the know say the boys in Chicago were meeting at Starbucks. Marco has a big guy with him who sits outside. A fucking starbucks lol. They've been doing that since the last decade.

[Frank]

Just as a general comment, Joey's death almost seems like the end of an era in more ways than one. After the death of DiFronzo, he was probably the last significant guy remaining from the "glory" years of the Outfit (Capone era to 1960s). Additionally, Lombardo's death may very well coincide with the death of the Outfit in general. As many have already pointed out, what does remain of the Outfit appears to be a group of wealthy octogenarians. There is no concrete evidence that new members have been actively recruited, let alone inducted. It's fitting that the Outfit may die with Lombardo, a man who spent nearly 30 years of his life imprisoned for the organization.

Yes, definitely.

[Villain]

My personal opinion regarding Lombardo's criminal career is that he started same as the other rising members at the time, meaning he was a professional burglar and later rose up in the organization as prominent killer. The problem was that during those days (early 70s) the Outfit was already on the downfall (except for Vegas and union racketeering) and on top of that, they killed most of their younger associates during the same time, and so I think that they didnt have any other choice but to bring in guys like Lombardo who in turn didnt have the required training or maybe even brains to continue the so-called "tradition". I have the same opinion regarding Sarno or Monteleone, who in turn both had a similar start.

Maybe some of you might ask "what about Carlisi or DiFronzo?"....well Carlisi was probably involved in gambling since the late 1940's, while DiFronzo used to gather fellas like Lombardo in his own club and was also involved in high level loan sharking ops since the mid or late 1960s. As for Andriacchi, I also think that after Lombardo's imprisonment, he took over most of his interests (especially on the North Side) besides being from a different crew.