Resolving the Colombo War.

[Stroccos]

"Barnie T", possibly Liborio Thomas Bellomo? Can't be...

I believe little Barnie was in prison around that time

So how many Barneys were there?

Two i thought it was big Barney and little Barney but maybe I am mistaken
Big Barney is the current boss

[gohnjotti]

It was not Barney T., it was the Barney the acting boss.

[JesusMalverde]

Genovese family:
"Barnie T"/"Barnie Bullamos" (probably Liborio Bellomo), "I think he was acting boss." Vitale notes; "At the time I think he was acting boss. The West Side changes every week. They could be acting boss today, next week they'll be consiglieri, the next week they'll be - be underboss. Whatever suits them that week."
"Mikey DeMeano" (probably Mickey Generoso), "consiglieri of the West Side at the time."

Why was he dubbed Barnie (Barney) "T"?

[Snakes]

I think his middle initial is "T."

[Frank]

I wonder if there was anyone else that was identified as Underboss or acting in that time period. Unless Vitale has Generoso's rank wrong.

[Pogo The Clown]

Probably a mistake on Vitales part. Gravano IDEd Genoroso as Acting UB in 1991 and he was indicted as such in 1996. Jimmy Ida was the Consigliere during this period and he was on the street.


Pogo

[Frank]

Probably a mistake on Vitales part. Gravano IDEd Genoroso as Acting UB in 1991 and he was indicted as such in 1996. Jimmy Ida was the Consigliere during this period and he was on the street.


Pogo

Thanks, yes that period of time ,from the Chin taking over as boss, till he and Barney were taken off the streets, seem like the administration chart is a 100 per cent , no doubt about it correct.

[Bruno187]

Interesting that he mistakenly called Mickey Generoso "Mickey DiMeano".
There was a Mickey DiMinno who was an associate and did time in the 90's for scamming the government in a development project in the Bronx. He was the grandson of old timer Mickey Morris (Morris Barra). DiMinno would definitely have not been in that room with those guys, but I wonder if Vitale had dealings with DiMinno and mistakenly called Generoso "DiMeano" getting the two of them mixed up.
I guess I'm rambling, but odd that he would pull DiMeano out of thin air, especially since they were boss and associate in the same family.

[Pogo The Clown]

Generosos nickname was Micky Dimino.


Pogo

[Bruno187]

Ahhh....OK.
Here's a link to an article mentioning the other Mickey. Funny that the judge says that Carrara should "have soap in his mouth" as a condition of bail.

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/trends/co ... ndex1.html

[gohnjotti]

Don't know where else to post this. Joseph Campanella testified that the family was put back together in 1994/5, shortly after William Cutolo was acquitted and released from prison. Campanella and Cutolo had a meeting with Alphonse Persico and John DeRoss, where it was decided that Campanella, Cutolo, DeRoss, Richard "the Jeweler" Capichano, and Joseph "Joe Smash" Gambale would be in a newly-formed crew under Alphonse Persico. When Persico was promoted to acting boss in 1996/7, he made Cutolo his official underboss and Joel Cacace his official consigliere, promoting John DeRoss as the official captain of the Cutolo Crew.

[Pogo The Clown]

This clears some things up. Great stuff Gohn.


Pogo

[gohnjotti]

This clears some things up. Great stuff Gohn.


Pogo

Cheers Pogo

[thekiduknow]

So the Commission meeting happened around 93/94, and the family was put together roughly a year later? I'm not at all knowledgable about the Colombo's, or even this time period, I just reread this thread and want to try and get the timeline straight.

[gohnjotti]

So the Commission meeting happened around 93/94, and the family was put together roughly a year later? I'm not at all knowledgable about the Colombo's, or even this time period, I just reread this thread and want to try and get the timeline straight.

A ceasefire was called sometime in mid-to-late 1992. The following year, the ceasefire briefly broke with the murder of Orena Underboss Joseph Scopo, which essentially ended the conflict. The family remained in disarray in 1994, with the Persico and Orena factions both being separate. There were two meetings which both helped officially resolve the conflicts, although it's unsure which meeting came first.

One meeting, which was not given an accurate timeframe by Bonanno Underboss Sal Vitale, occurred with the entire Commission present. Persico Faction Acting Boss Andy Russo, who was released from prison in 1994, met with Orena Faction Representative Vinny Aloi at the meeting, and the pair discussed the conflict in a separate room, where they failed to reach a resolution. Thereafter, the rest of the Commission, de facto led by Genovese Acting Boss Liborio Bellomo, agreed to put their weight on the Persico Faction, designating them the winners of the conflict.

Another meeting occurred in approximately 1994 or 1995, shortly after both Alphonse Persico and William Cutolo were acquitted of racketeering charges and released from prison. The meeting consisted of Cutolo, Persico, and Colombo Soldiers John DeRoss and Joseph Campanella. At that meeting, Cutolo and Campanella - both Orena Faction members whose crew and affiliates represented a significant portion of the Orena Faction's strength - agreed to come back into the Colombo Family as Soldiers under newly-appointed Caporegime Alphonse Persico.

These meetings are the only two that I have seen which formally resolved the conflict. It should be noted that approximately 24 Orena Faction members refused to come back into the fold during the mid-to-late 1990s. Joseph Campanella referred to these holdout members as "the Long Island Guys," and other evidence points to various Long Islanders refusing to come back into the fold, although most of them progressively did overtime.