Patriarca Family Succession

[Philly d]

I chat with TJ privately...he’s always been solid. He’s a good poster for New England. Bats is a great poster for KC. East Bronx “was” great for West Side. These guys are more familiar with what’s going on in the neighborhoods than we are. It’s important to take all info we get and compare notes. I’ve never once heard any of them confirm 100% that what they’re saying is 100% accurate.

Guys like tj and batts are why I have been on these forum for twenty years. I don’t know what people have to make a big deal about misspellings and initials. It’s really not that hard to follow. And if you don’t like the way they post then don’t read them.

[JCB1977]

JCB pointed out that Eddie Mush is Joe Russo from GBB. Have no idea what he's talking about half the time and i don't believe anything he says, but i don't think he's purposefully deceiving people either so i think taking what he says with a grain of salt is the best course of action. No offence Eddie. Just calm down dude.

Don’t remember ever confirming that...

Sorry, thought you did. It's on me for reading what must have been a theory of yours and taking it as fact. Apologies Eddie, if JCB is saying he didn't then that's correct. But you do post a lot of typos and just as erratically and aggressively as him so you can't blame me for thinking "yeah that's definitely him", even if it is i don't think there's anything wrong with you posting here. No offence, but people have never took you as seriously as someone like PB or Bronx so you shouldn't cause as much controversy, as long as people take what your saying with a grain of salt (or more likely completely dismiss it) then i don't see the issue. Continually saying you're leaving and this place sucks is not the right move though.

Everybody handles things differently, TJ only gets info he hears from the neighborhood. He’s the first to say he can’t confirm 100%. Law Enforcement develops pipeline sources starting with people in the neighborhood who have been around their specific targets for long periods of time. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if some of the street sources for law-enforcement done also chat with other people in the neighborhood bars and hang outs. It’s not far fetched. TJ and I have had private dialog And I have never reposted or repeated anything he has ever sent me. And the way things have shaken up in New England, some of his information was highly accurate. He has been wrong about things as well but again he only gives us information that he hears. It’s a street source from the neighborhood.

I get your argument Wiseguy. But unless youe’ve ever truly witnessed the generational ethnic neighborhoods, you will never truly understand. My father was a neighborhood guy and he grew up in a clustered neighborhood of the city that was predominantly Italian and Irish. They all new who was in charge and who was who, my dad used to shoot dice one block from his home in the alley of a bar. The people who resided and raised families and all came from a specific region of Italy look out for one another, weren’t trusting of cops and if they had a problem, they knew Who to go see to help them fix it without involving law-enforcement. As I got older, I had visited some bars with my dad that were strictly gambling joints and I saw firsthand that there are certain people who are being paid a lot of respect. No matter how many examples I gave you, you will never truly understand. Having said that, I am a huge proponent of the information that the federal government has obtained because they are on constant surveillance. But we also know all too well that the federal government has had some serious, flagrant, high profile corruption and information that was out there considered concrete was completely skewed and fabricated by the federal government themselves. Many sources need filtered before you come to a conclusion that only has a certain percentage of accuracy

My two cents.

[Wiseguy]

JCB pointed out that Eddie Mush is Joe Russo from GBB. Have no idea what he's talking about half the time and i don't believe anything he says, but i don't think he's purposefully deceiving people either so i think taking what he says with a grain of salt is the best course of action. No offence Eddie. Just calm down dude.

Don’t remember ever confirming that...

Sorry, thought you did. It's on me for reading what must have been a theory of yours and taking it as fact. Apologies Eddie, if JCB is saying he didn't then that's correct. But you do post a lot of typos and just as erratically and aggressively as him so you can't blame me for thinking "yeah that's definitely him", even if it is i don't think there's anything wrong with you posting here. No offence, but people have never took you as seriously as someone like PB or Bronx so you shouldn't cause as much controversy, as long as people take what your saying with a grain of salt (or more likely completely dismiss it) then i don't see the issue. Continually saying you're leaving and this place sucks is not the right move though.

Everybody handles things differently, TJ only gets info he hears from the neighborhood. He’s the first to say he can’t confirm 100%. Law Enforcement develops pipeline sources starting with people in the neighborhood who have been around their specific targets for long periods of time. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if some of the street sources for law-enforcement done also chat with other people in the neighborhood bars and hang outs. It’s not far fetched. TJ and I have had private dialog And I have never reposted or repeated anything he has ever sent me. And the way things have shaken up in New England, some of his information was highly accurate. He has been wrong about things as well but again he only gives us information that he hears. It’s a street source from the neighborhood.

I get your argument Wiseguy. But unless youe’ve ever truly witnessed the generational ethnic neighborhoods, you will never truly understand. My father was a neighborhood guy and he grew up in a clustered neighborhood of the city that was predominantly Italian and Irish. They all new who was in charge and who was who, my dad used to shoot dice one block from his home in the alley of a bar. The people who resided and raised families and all came from a specific region of Italy look out for one another, weren’t trusting of cops and if they had a problem, they knew Who to go see to help them fix it without involving law-enforcement. As I got older, I had visited some bars with my dad that were strictly gambling joints and I saw firsthand that there are certain people who are being paid a lot of respect. No matter how many examples I gave you, you will never truly understand. Having said that, I am a huge proponent of the information that the federal government has obtained because they are on constant surveillance. But we also know all too well that the federal government has had some serious, flagrant, high profile corruption and information that was out there considered concrete was completely skewed and fabricated by the federal government themselves. Many sources need filtered before you come to a conclusion that only has a certain percentage of accuracy

My two cents.

I see what you're saying, JCB, but I think it's largely immaterial to what we're talking about.

It's one thing to live in an area and know people. Or know people who know people. Or at least see people now and again on the street. Or hear ocassional gossip. And so on.

It's another thing for someone, who may live in a certain area but isn't connected or involved in any way, to be given an organizational chart of the local mob family so they can then turn around and post it online.

It's amazing how many people have frequented these forums over the years, who somehow know the inner workings of a criminal organization, and are so kind to just tell us all about it.

It's even more amazing how many people still take what they say at face value when these types end up being wrong the vast majority of the time.

[JCB1977]

JCB pointed out that Eddie Mush is Joe Russo from GBB. Have no idea what he's talking about half the time and i don't believe anything he says, but i don't think he's purposefully deceiving people either so i think taking what he says with a grain of salt is the best course of action. No offence Eddie. Just calm down dude.

Don’t remember ever confirming that...

Sorry, thought you did. It's on me for reading what must have been a theory of yours and taking it as fact. Apologies Eddie, if JCB is saying he didn't then that's correct. But you do post a lot of typos and just as erratically and aggressively as him so you can't blame me for thinking "yeah that's definitely him", even if it is i don't think there's anything wrong with you posting here. No offence, but people have never took you as seriously as someone like PB or Bronx so you shouldn't cause as much controversy, as long as people take what your saying with a grain of salt (or more likely completely dismiss it) then i don't see the issue. Continually saying you're leaving and this place sucks is not the right move though.

Everybody handles things differently, TJ only gets info he hears from the neighborhood. He’s the first to say he can’t confirm 100%. Law Enforcement develops pipeline sources starting with people in the neighborhood who have been around their specific targets for long periods of time. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if some of the street sources for law-enforcement done also chat with other people in the neighborhood bars and hang outs. It’s not far fetched. TJ and I have had private dialog And I have never reposted or repeated anything he has ever sent me. And the way things have shaken up in New England, some of his information was highly accurate. He has been wrong about things as well but again he only gives us information that he hears. It’s a street source from the neighborhood.

I get your argument Wiseguy. But unless youe’ve ever truly witnessed the generational ethnic neighborhoods, you will never truly understand. My father was a neighborhood guy and he grew up in a clustered neighborhood of the city that was predominantly Italian and Irish. They all new who was in charge and who was who, my dad used to shoot dice one block from his home in the alley of a bar. The people who resided and raised families and all came from a specific region of Italy look out for one another, weren’t trusting of cops and if they had a problem, they knew Who to go see to help them fix it without involving law-enforcement. As I got older, I had visited some bars with my dad that were strictly gambling joints and I saw firsthand that there are certain people who are being paid a lot of respect. No matter how many examples I gave you, you will never truly understand. Having said that, I am a huge proponent of the information that the federal government has obtained because they are on constant surveillance. But we also know all too well that the federal government has had some serious, flagrant, high profile corruption and information that was out there considered concrete was completely skewed and fabricated by the federal government themselves. Many sources need filtered before you come to a conclusion that only has a certain percentage of accuracy

My two cents.

I see what you're saying, JCB, but I think it's largely immaterial to what we're talking about.

It's one thing to live in an area and know people. Or know people who know people. Or at least see people now and again on the street. Or hear ocassional gossip. And so on.

It's another thing for someone, who may live in a certain area but isn't connected or involved in any way, to be given an organizational chart of the local mob family so they can then turn around and post it online.

It's amazing how many people have frequented these forums over the years, who somehow know the inner workings of a criminal organization, and are so kind to just tell us all about it.

It's even more amazing how many people still take what they say at face value when these types end up being wrong the vast majority of the time.

I can only go on about what I know. Friend of Henry and Friend of the Family we’re definitely friends with some of the Pittsburgh and Cleveland guys. Friend of Henry has always said that business was not discussed in front of him but just by being around, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out who is in charge and who is getting the most respect. In my case, I had several family members that were involved but I was a teenager by the time they passed away and obviously nothing was ever discussed in front of me. I just happen to catch glimpses of the respect that they were shown. All I am saying is that a street source from the neighborhood cannot be totally discredited. Sure, there have been many posers but I do believe that some of the people that have stuck around this forum that have ties to mobbed up neighborhoods Hear things from a different perspective or see things from a different perspective. I am not taking anything away from law-enforcement in the investigations that are ongoing as I know for a fact that they typically start with low level Street sources that may provide some insight on who to watch more closely.

[mike68]

Saw on Gangster Report that Darin Bufalino is out of jail. He can't be too happy with what's been learned about his old buddy Rosetti since he was locked up. I wonder who he fall under now that he's back.

[JCB1977]

JCB pointed out that Eddie Mush is Joe Russo from GBB. Have no idea what he's talking about half the time and i don't believe anything he says, but i don't think he's purposefully deceiving people either so i think taking what he says with a grain of salt is the best course of action. No offence Eddie. Just calm down dude.

Don’t remember ever confirming that...

Sorry, thought you did. It's on me for reading what must have been a theory of yours and taking it as fact. Apologies Eddie, if JCB is saying he didn't then that's correct. But you do post a lot of typos and just as erratically and aggressively as him so you can't blame me for thinking "yeah that's definitely him", even if it is i don't think there's anything wrong with you posting here. No offence, but people have never took you as seriously as someone like PB or Bronx so you shouldn't cause as much controversy, as long as people take what your saying with a grain of salt (or more likely completely dismiss it) then i don't see the issue. Continually saying you're leaving and this place sucks is not the right move though.

Everybody handles things differently, TJ only gets info he hears from the neighborhood. He’s the first to say he can’t confirm 100%. Law Enforcement develops pipeline sources starting with people in the neighborhood who have been around their specific targets for long periods of time. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if some of the street sources for law-enforcement done also chat with other people in the neighborhood bars and hang outs. It’s not far fetched. TJ and I have had private dialog And I have never reposted or repeated anything he has ever sent me. And the way things have shaken up in New England, some of his information was highly accurate. He has been wrong about things as well but again he only gives us information that he hears. It’s a street source from the neighborhood.

I get your argument Wiseguy. But unless youe’ve ever truly witnessed the generational ethnic neighborhoods, you will never truly understand. My father was a neighborhood guy and he grew up in a clustered neighborhood of the city that was predominantly Italian and Irish. They all new who was in charge and who was who, my dad used to shoot dice one block from his home in the alley of a bar. The people who resided and raised families and all came from a specific region of Italy look out for one another, weren’t trusting of cops and if they had a problem, they knew Who to go see to help them fix it without involving law-enforcement. As I got older, I had visited some bars with my dad that were strictly gambling joints and I saw firsthand that there are certain people who are being paid a lot of respect. No matter how many examples I gave you, you will never truly understand. Having said that, I am a huge proponent of the information that the federal government has obtained because they are on constant surveillance. But we also know all too well that the federal government has had some serious, flagrant, high profile corruption and information that was out there considered concrete was completely skewed and fabricated by the federal government themselves. Many sources need filtered before you come to a conclusion that only has a certain percentage of accuracy

My two cents.

I see what you're saying, JCB, but I think it's largely immaterial to what we're talking about.

It's one thing to live in an area and know people. Or know people who know people. Or at least see people now and again on the street. Or hear ocassional gossip. And so on.

It's another thing for someone, who may live in a certain area but isn't connected or involved in any way, to be given an organizational chart of the local mob family so they can then turn around and post it online.

It's amazing how many people have frequented these forums over the years, who somehow know the inner workings of a criminal organization, and are so kind to just tell us all about it.

It's even more amazing how many people still take what they say at face value when these types end up being wrong the vast majority of the time.

And by the way, I agree with everything you said in paragraph 3 stated above.

[Eddie mush]

Saw on Gangster Report that Darin Bufalino is out of jail. He can't be too happy with what's been learned about his old buddy Rosetti since he was locked up. I wonder who he fall under now that he's back.

Nice articl really up to date seeing that Darin been home over 2 yrs

But us neighborhood guys dont know anything u keyboard gangsters have the info lol

[Pogo The Clown]

You sure are posting a lot for a guy who said he would be leaving all us "jerk offs".


Pogo

[Wiseguy]

RI Mafia captain Edward 'Eddie' Lato released from prison
Tim White
January 31, 2019

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PROVIDENCE, R.I. (WPRI) - After serving more than seven years behind bars for his role in a conspiracy case, New England Mafia capo Edward "Eddie" Lato is now out of prison.

Lato, 71, was released Wednesday from Fort Dix federal prison in New Jersey, and was brought to a halfway house in Pawtucket, the Target 12 Investigators have learned.

The longtime high-ranking member of the mob was given the stiffest sentence in a sweeping 2011 crackdown on organized crime. The bust scooped up nine members or associates of the New England mob including former boss Luigi "Baby Shacks" Manocchio, former acting boss Anthony DiNunzio of East Boston, and others. Lato was sentenced to nine years after pleading guilty to racketeering conspiracy for taking part in a scheme to shake down strip clubs for protection money.

Lato's sentence was set to expire in July of this year, but Lato was eligible for release to home confinement or a halfway house on Jan. 25, according to information Target 12 obtained from the Federal Bureau of Prisons under a Freedom of Information Act request. Prison regulations require that Lato must find employment in order to qualify for a stay at a halfway house.

Lato's attorney, Mark Smith, said he had "no knowledge" of Lato's situation.

While serving his federal sentence, Lato made a brief appearance in a Rhode Island courtroom in 2014 to put a state case to bed. Lato along with mobsters Frank "Bobo" Marrapese, Alfred "Chippy" Scivola and nearly two dozen others were arrested in a state police sting into illegal sports betting. Prosecutors said the ring was run by Vincent "Tootsie" Tallo.

Lato pleaded guilty to his role in the operation in November 2014 and was given a 10-year suspended sentence and 10 years of probation. Lato will also be on three years of probation on the federal case.

In the federal case that handed Lato is longest ever prison sentence, former mob capo regime Robert "Bobby" DeLuca wore a wire for the FBI against his fellow mobster in the 2011 case. For his cooperation, DeLuca served one day in prison for his role in the extortion scheme.

DeLuca and his brother, Joseph DeLuca, were star witnesses in last year's trial in Boston of former mob boss Francis "Cadillac Frank" Salemme, who was found guilty of taking part in the 1993 murder of Boston nightclub owner — and Providence native — Steven DiSarro.

In a letter written to the judge in the Boston case, DeLuca denounced the mob and said he had found religion before getting arrested for lying to federal investigators in the DiSarro case. He is now serving 5½ years after pleading guilty in that case.

DeLuca has also pleaded guilty for taking part in the murder of mob hitman Kevin Hanrahan on Federal Hill in 1992. DeLuca said he took part in the planning of the hit, but the actual triggerman has never been caught.

Lato has been identified as a suspect in the Hanrahan murder, but has not been charged.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wpri.c ... 1742365462

[JCB1977]

So he’s on probation until at least 2024. He’s 71. Providence is severely weakened from where it was even 7 years ago. The Saint is dead, DeLuca a snitch, Shacks is in his 90’s...3 Providence heavyweights removed from the equation. Even with Matty out, I don’t believe he has enough around him to become a major player. IMO, it’s over in Providence, they are at a standing 9 count. There may be a few busts and some gambling, but LCN is all but dead there.

[Cheech]

sory to bump an old thread. do we know when matty guglielmetti was made?

[Angelo Santino]

Repost. Original got deleted from hostsite in the beginning of this thread..

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[Cheech]

Nice. i just sent you an email. going to be really good.


anybody got matty Gugs made date. was he a member in 1985?

[Pogo The Clown]

anybody got matty Gugs made date. was he a member in 1985?

I've seen October 5, 1977 listed. Don't know how accurate that is though.


Pogo

[B.]

According to the FBI:

1960
Boss - Raymond Patriarca
Underboss - Anthony Santaniello
Consigliere - Joseph Lombardo

Captains:
Joseph Anselmo
Michael Rocco
John Guglielmo
Henry Tameleo


1969
Boss - Raymond Patriarca
Underboss - Gennaro Angiulo
Consigliere - Joseph Lombardo

Captains:
Joseph Anselmo
Ilario Zannino
Edward Romano (acting)

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In 1965, Anthony "Pussy" Russo was taped referring to Jerry Angiulo as having recently been promoted to captain, so he was in there between these two dates.