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Grouchy Sinatra wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:31 am I think he shared writing duties with a few people but I'm pretty sure he wrote all of the scenes with the Italians. It was why Lee pegged him. They both said so in interviews. His Sopranos scripts were better, imo. He wrote From Where To Eternity, the episode after Chrissy's shot in season 2, and a few others.
That’s a great episode.

Paulie talking about purgatory is LOL funny
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It's propaganda if Pogo disagrees with it. That's the official Websters definition of propaganda.
Glick told author Nicholas Pileggi that he expected to meet a banker-type individual, but instead, he found Alvin Baron to be a gruff, tough-talking cigar-chomping Teamster who greeted him with, “What the fuck do you want?”
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Amershire_Ed wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:36 am
Grouchy Sinatra wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:31 am I think he shared writing duties with a few people but I'm pretty sure he wrote all of the scenes with the Italians. It was why Lee pegged him. They both said so in interviews. His Sopranos scripts were better, imo. He wrote From Where To Eternity, the episode after Chrissy's shot in season 2, and a few others.
That’s a great episode.

Paulie talking about purgatory is LOL funny
And Paulie's tantrum at the psychic ghost whisperer's.
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It looks like he also wrote
“Telltale Moozadel” in season 3.
“Christopher” in season 4, which is the Columbus Day protest episode.
“Everybody Hurts” in season 4, when Artie got played by the hostess’ brother on the Vodka deal
“Marco Polo” in season 5, Carmella’s dads birthday
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I believe I've heard or read somewhere that David Chase wrote the final draft of all episodes so who knows how much of the great scenes in those episodes can be attributed to whom, but I have to believe Imperioli just had that personal connection with Paulie's character since he and Tony Sirico had so many scenes together. Everybody Hurts was another classic. The Frenchman ripping Artie's earring out.

Sopranos writer Frank Renzulli did an interview with one of the fan podcasts and told the back story about the basis for Richie Aprile and Dave Scatino. It was based on guys in Boston. Pretty funny.
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Amershire_Ed wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:35 am It’s propaganda to make a movie about a black hero with a white villain? Lol seriously?

Ah, yeah. Strong black hero partnered either with a strong White women (or dumb, weak or uncool White guy) against an evil White male. It is all over television. Whire males either being portrayed as evil villains or weak dumb buffoons in the Al Bundy mold. It is pretty blatant lefty propaganda.


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But it's not propaganda if it has a strong white hero, right Pogo?
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:01 am
Amershire_Ed wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:35 am It’s propaganda to make a movie about a black hero with a white villain? Lol seriously?

Ah, yeah. Strong black hero partnered either with a strong White women (or dumb, weak or uncool White guy) against an evil White male. It is all over television. Whire males either being portrayed as evil villains or weak dumb buffoons in the Al Bundy mold. It is pretty blatant lefty propaganda.


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Yes let’s tally up the film and television that have portrayed a white protagonist with a black villain vs the opposite and see if the latter comes within 500 of the former.

Gimme a break.
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Amershire_Ed wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:06 am Yes let’s tally up the film and television that have portrayed a white protagonist with a black villain vs the opposite and see if the latter comes within 500 of the former.

Gimme a break.

Yeah let's tally it up. The Denzel Washington movies, the Morgan Freeman movies, cop and profiling shows like Law & Order, Criminal Minds, Chicago PD, etc where the criminals are almost always portrayed as White. Let's tally it up. Whites commit less than 20% of the violent crime in this country. How often are Whites portrayed as killers and rapist on tv? Likewise blacks commit over 50% of the violent crime. How often are they portrayed as rapists and killers in movies and tv. Let's tally it up.


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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:13 am
Amershire_Ed wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:06 am Yes let’s tally up the film and television that have portrayed a white protagonist with a black villain vs the opposite and see if the latter comes within 500 of the former.

Gimme a break.

Yeah let's tally it up. The Denzel Washington movies, the Morgan Freeman movies, cop and profiling shows like Law & Order, Criminal Minds, Chicago PD, etc where the criminals are almost always portrayed as White. Let's tally it up. Whites commit less than 20% of the violent crime in this country. How often are Whites portrayed as killers and rapist on tv? Likewise blacks commit over 50% of the violent crime. How often are they portrayed as rapists and killers in movies and tv. Let's tally it up.


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This isn’t the forum for this discussion.

I’ll just say that if you think there are historically more portrayals of white people as the villain than black in American tv and cinema, I would like to buy all the drugs you are using because it seems like some pretty quality stuff.
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And, Pogo has turned yet another thread into a discussion about ethnic junk science.
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Amershire_Ed wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:17 am
Pogo The Clown wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:13 am
Amershire_Ed wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 11:06 am Yes let’s tally up the film and television that have portrayed a white protagonist with a black villain vs the opposite and see if the latter comes within 500 of the former.

Gimme a break.

Yeah let's tally it up. The Denzel Washington movies, the Morgan Freeman movies, cop and profiling shows like Law & Order, Criminal Minds, Chicago PD, etc where the criminals are almost always portrayed as White. Let's tally it up. Whites commit less than 20% of the violent crime in this country. How often are Whites portrayed as killers and rapist on tv? Likewise blacks commit over 50% of the violent crime. How often are they portrayed as rapists and killers in movies and tv. Let's tally it up.


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This isn’t the forum for this discussion.

I’ll just say that if you think there are historically more portrayals of white people as the villain than black in American tv and cinema, I would like to buy all the drugs you are using because it seems like some pretty quality stuff.

I just responded in the General forum.


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Grouchy Sinatra wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:07 am
Fughedaboutit wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:32 am
Grouchy Sinatra wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:41 pm I don't care if Sheeran is falsely attributed to killing Hoffa and it goes down in history as such. Is that okay? Everyone knows why he died. Who cares who actually did it?
Mob enthusiasts, the police, the FBI, his family etc...

Silly statement.
You mean people who've failed to solve the case. Scorsese's guess is as good as anyone's. Enjoy the film.
The movie will be great, even if it was pure fiction. I was disputing the fact that you said "who cares who actually did it?" which was an asinine remark.
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Why does Pogo turn everything into a racist conversation? Hold your KKK meetings in private, not on the board.
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I was wondering how long it was going to take for the resident troll who adds nothing to the forum to jump in and try to stir things up. :roll:


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