what about joe aiello, the genna brothers and other sicilians? probably there were mafia members before 1931Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:07 pm They didn't start out as the Cosa Nostra family when they formed. the first Bosses like Colosimo, Torrio and Capone during the beginning of his reign where not made members of LCN. I believe it wasn't until 1931 that they were accepted as a CN family but despite they kept a lot of their original customs and practices though that of course faded with time.
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Agreed..... if anything Aiello was the “true” Sicilian LCN Family at the time. Aiello actually fought Capone and company for supremacy in chicago.Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:07 pmGrouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 7:29 pm I figured you were being sarcastic Pogo but I've heard this said about Chicago before many times. I'm not disputing it, just asking for clarification. And, I tend to agree with it. Chicago certainly didn't function like a "family". Then again, the Luciano family didn't function like the "conservative" Sicilian faction of NY, either. In fact, the Luciano/Genovese seemed to adopt Chicago's policy of insulating the boss.
They didn't start out as the Cosa Nostra family when they formed. the first Bosses like Colosimo, Torrio and Capone during the beginning of his reign where not made members of LCN. I believe it wasn't until 1931 that they were accepted as a CN family but despite they kept a lot of their original customs and practices though that of course faded with time.
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If anything, Capone had tied to Camorra members from Brooklyn, Frankie Yale - a Calabrian I believe and the South Brooklyn “Napolitano” faction by the Brooklyn Navy yards..... Little Augie Carfano, Tony Paretti and those fellows. But Capone became so powerful that at some point he had to be recognized (or eliminated) and the were not eliminating Capone’s crew so he was absorbed into what became the LCN.
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scagghiuni wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:23 am what about joe aiello, the genna brothers and other sicilians? probably there were mafia members before 1931
They were a LCN family but they were a separate group from the Torrio-Capone group. After their top guys were killed a lot of their members were absorbed into he Outfit in 1931.
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Cabrini was the original Genna family territory I believe....Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:35 amscagghiuni wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:23 am what about joe aiello, the genna brothers and other sicilians? probably there were mafia members before 1931
They were a LCN family but they were a separate group from the Torrio-Capone group. After their top guys were killed a lot of their members were absorbed into he Outfit in 1931.
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Was Joe Aiello's family separate from the Genna Family? When did the non-Capone Chicago families start?
Finally, was Chicago Heights its own family?
I think 26 is the correct number but if you want to be correct, you have to include the defuncts as well. Newark. Birmingham. San Diego. I too have read that San Diego fell apart after Prohibition but did once exist. San Diego would eventually become a crew under LA.
Finally, was Chicago Heights its own family?
I think 26 is the correct number but if you want to be correct, you have to include the defuncts as well. Newark. Birmingham. San Diego. I too have read that San Diego fell apart after Prohibition but did once exist. San Diego would eventually become a crew under LA.
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The Genna and Aeillo groups were one and the same. Don't know exactly wh they started but they predate the Outfit. Chicago Heights also had its own family and were aAlso absorbed by the Outfit.
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i read capone was sent to chicago by masseria to fight aiello who was allied with maranzano
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Capone was in Chicago before Masseria became Boss and before Maranzano was even in the US.
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However he wasn't go to Chicago on Torrio's demand ?
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So Chicago had 3 families. Genna, the Outfit (which became a family) and Chicago Heights. The Outfit ate everything around it.
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And the Irish. Capone must've had some incredible charisma.BarrettM wrote:So Chicago had 3 families. Genna, the Outfit (which became a family) and Chicago Heights. The Outfit ate everything around it.
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in charge of CT "rackets" for a particular family. i.e. tommy gambino over CT for the Gambinos for a period of time. not boss of a CT family.Grouchy Sinatra wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2019 9:37 pm In "Wiseguy" Henry Hill mentions a Connecticut "boss" that was celled up with Paulie and Johnny Dio in prison.
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Read the making of the Outfit in the charts sectionscagghiuni wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:23 amwhat about joe aiello, the genna brothers and other sicilians? probably there were mafia members before 1931Pogo The Clown wrote: ↑Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:07 pm They didn't start out as the Cosa Nostra family when they formed. the first Bosses like Colosimo, Torrio and Capone during the beginning of his reign where not made members of LCN. I believe it wasn't until 1931 that they were accepted as a CN family but despite they kept a lot of their original customs and practices though that of course faded with time.
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