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Greek Mob in Philly and New York

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Didn’t know where to post this but I’m looking for some information on the Greek mob in the Northeast. There isn’t much on them however it seems like they held a close relationship with the Lucchese and Philly families in the 80s and 90s.

What’s their current status? Do you guys have any interesting information on these groups?
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They don't have a structured mob that I have heard of, I do know that the closest they had was Spiro Valentis who ran a lot of gambling in New York. After he went away I think that ended them having any strong structure. Gerry Capeci did an interview with him (and screwed him over in it) Spiro is doing life I think. He may have even died. There are a lot of Greek clubs where gambling goes on, but I don't know if they are tied together.
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bert wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:23 pm They don't have a structured mob that I have heard of, I do know that the closest they had was Spiro Valentis who ran a lot of gambling in New York. After he went away I think that ended them having any strong structure. Gerry Capeci did an interview with him (and screwed him over in it) Spiro is doing life I think. He may have even died. There are a lot of Greek clubs where gambling goes on, but I don't know if they are tied together.
How did capeci screw him ?
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Stroccos wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:25 pm
bert wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:23 pm They don't have a structured mob that I have heard of, I do know that the closest they had was Spiro Valentis who ran a lot of gambling in New York. After he went away I think that ended them having any strong structure. Gerry Capeci did an interview with him (and screwed him over in it) Spiro is doing life I think. He may have even died. There are a lot of Greek clubs where gambling goes on, but I don't know if they are tied together.
How did capeci screw him ?
He contacted Capeci hoping to state his case and give his side, Capeci did the interview, but wrote it up in a way that made Valentis seem bad. It was a gangland story, so it should be available in his archives. If one of the people who post gangland on here can post it, you can see it and judge for yourself. My take on it was he screwed the guy.
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Anyone know if Spiro Valentis is still alive and doing time?
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Every single Diner in NY and Jersey Is Greek owned, I’m not even exaggerating!
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Rat wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:56 am Didn’t know where to post this but I’m looking for some information on the Greek mob in the Northeast. There isn’t much on them however it seems like they held a close relationship with the Lucchese and Philly families in the 80s and 90s.

What’s their current status? Do you guys have any interesting information on these groups?
The Greeks based in Queens paid the Luccheses for years in order to operate gambling in their communities. It was mainly Greek gambling clubs in Queens that were the target of the Rudaj organization.
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bert wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 2:35 pm Anyone know if Spiro Valentis is still alive and doing time?

Currently is 84 and still in prison
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It looks like White Bulger was killed by a Greek mob associate Fotios "Freddy" Geas.
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Rat wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:20 pm It looks like White Bulger was killed by a Greek mob associate Fotios "Freddy" Geas.
Geas (and his brother) were associates of the Genovese family's Springfield crew.
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Rat wrote: Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:20 pm It looks like White Bulger was killed by a Greek mob associate Fotios "Freddy" Geas.
I didn't know he was Greek, I only saw him listed as Fred. The Fotios name is a giveaway if there ever was one. Did he ever hook up with other Greeks, or was he too Americanized? I think any Greeks for the other side tend to only stick with others like them. Geas is definitely a bad dude. They keep calling him "A Mafia Hitman" in news stories, which is one of those weird terms reporters come up with.
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Same thing in CT alot of Greek diners 9 outta 10 are greek or close to it i know quite a few greeks and most own businesses or work for another greek that does i know of a few greek clubs around one that a friend and his family belong too and theres definetely gambling although im not sure to what extent
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There were always rumors of a Greek Mob in Tarpon Springs, a heavily Greek town to the west of Tampa, famous for its sponge docks. Mainly it was drug runners bringing in stuff on the sponge and fishing boats.
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It would be safe to assume most of the Greek Gambling parlors in NY and NJ are kicking up to LCN .

On a side note wiseguys in Jersey and NY are always eating and having meetings at Greek owned diners during the morning and during the day, FYI.

Is the Penrose Diner in South Philly Greek owned? I would assume it is and the South Philly guys are always in there during the daytime too....
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That footage of Borgesi and Sharkey that Mob Sitdown uses of them leaving a diner during the day is The Penrose Diner by the way.

Penrose Diner is a tremendous spot for a great breakfast or late night after the bars close when you’re all banged up! Been there a few times with my South Philly friends over the years....
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