DETROIT MOBSTER “JOE HOOKS” DIES PEACEFULLY & FREE AT 87

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Wiseguy wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 9:05 pm
Fughedaboutit wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:00 pm The same people disrupting every single Detroit thread. We have heard your same shit over and over, we get it...so just stay out.

Ridiculous.
Nobody said you could come out of your corner, Fug.

Corner. Dunce cap. You know the routine.
Oh the guilty come forth. The day I would let someone who just got laid 2 years ago and they are in their 30's dictate anything to me, is...well it would never happen. So there is that. Go back to reading a book with the only woman you have ever been with for joy lit by candles for weekend entertainment.

Lame, corny, repeat the same shit for years. You know the routine.
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Frank wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:26 pm
JCB1977 wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:50 am
Frank wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:25 am I know there is no answer to this question. But I wonder if Jackie Giacalone knows the details of the Hoffa murder.
Nope. I don't believe Billy or Tony knew the exact details either. Jack Tocco would be the only guy I could think of of this last generation who may have known.
Also hasn't one of the Giacalones car been held by LE for over 40 years as evidence.
You are referring to the car that Chuckie O Brien borrowed for the alleged pick up of Hoffa. It was Anthony Giacalone's sons, car, Joey Jack.
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Fughedaboutit wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:57 pm
Frank wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:26 pm
JCB1977 wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:50 am
Frank wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:25 am I know there is no answer to this question. But I wonder if Jackie Giacalone knows the details of the Hoffa murder.
Nope. I don't believe Billy or Tony knew the exact details either. Jack Tocco would be the only guy I could think of of this last generation who may have known.
Also hasn't one of the Giacalones car been held by LE for over 40 years as evidence.
You are referring to the car that Chuckie O Brien borrowed for the alleged pick up of Hoffa. It was Anthony Giacalone's sons, car, Joey Jack.
Thanks. My whole point is how can the Giacalones be eliminated from knowledge of the hit. Unless my man thinks it was done entirely by the Genoveses, with Sheeran possibly involved. I think at least disposal of the body would involve Detroit.
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Frank wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:11 pm
Fughedaboutit wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:57 pm
Frank wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 3:26 pm
JCB1977 wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 11:50 am
Frank wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 10:25 am I know there is no answer to this question. But I wonder if Jackie Giacalone knows the details of the Hoffa murder.
Nope. I don't believe Billy or Tony knew the exact details either. Jack Tocco would be the only guy I could think of of this last generation who may have known.
Also hasn't one of the Giacalones car been held by LE for over 40 years as evidence.
You are referring to the car that Chuckie O Brien borrowed for the alleged pick up of Hoffa. It was Anthony Giacalone's sons, car, Joey Jack.
Thanks. My whole point is how can the Giacalones be eliminated from knowledge of the hit. Unless my man thinks it was done entirely by the Genoveses, with Sheeran possibly involved. I think at least disposal of the body would involve Detroit.
I think Detroit kept that hit pretty insulated knowledge wise, there is a reason it is one of the best hits of all time mob wise imo. I do doubt Jackie the kid knows, there would be no reason and he was young. I could see Anthony knowing possibly, but we will never be sure. I mean he was at a place he would normally not be just to be spotted by LE during the timeline, so he had to know something was going on.
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Fughedaboutit wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:52 pm
Oh the guilty come forth. The day I would let someone who just got laid 2 years ago and they are in their 30's dictate anything to me, is...well it would never happen. So there is that. Go back to reading a book with the only woman you have ever been with for joy lit by candles for weekend entertainment.

Lame, corny, repeat the same shit for years. You know the routine.
Fug, you're still here? I thought I told you to go stand in the corner.
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Wiseguy wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:08 pm
Fughedaboutit wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:52 pm
Oh the guilty come forth. The day I would let someone who just got laid 2 years ago and they are in their 30's dictate anything to me, is...well it would never happen. So there is that. Go back to reading a book with the only woman you have ever been with for joy lit by candles for weekend entertainment.

Lame, corny, repeat the same shit for years. You know the routine.
Fug, you're still here? I thought I told you to go stand in the corner.
I guess your reading skills lack comprehension. Same as your sex life, I guess it will catch up 20 years too late. :lol: :lol:
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Fughedaboutit wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 9:14 pmI guess your reading skills lack comprehension. Same as your sex life, I guess it will catch up 20 years too late. :lol: :lol:
You sure seem obsessed about other people's sex lives, Fug.
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I don’t doubt Tony Jack knee something was up or even that Hoffa had to go...to keep the biggest hit possibly in American mob history a secret for 44 years indicates that a very select few knew the details of how it was carried out. I don’t doubt more than a few played a role in the set up...very few who carried it out only know the true details, and they are more probable than not already deceased.

If the Mob was involved in the Kennedy assassination (which I believe is pure non sense), then that would be the biggest hit in mob history.
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JCB1977 wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:32 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:16 am
Adam wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:17 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:28 pm Land in Detroit. Awesome.
Actually, in the late 80s there was this relatively big story where Joseph Giacalone(Anthony's son) and three other guys got 40,000,000 for some acres of land from Detroit to help build a Chrysler factory. Yeah. Forty million in 80s dollars. They had bought it a few years before for a few hundred thousand.
None of the big four are opening up car factories in Detroit any more. Likely ever. It’ll be Mexico or South America. And that’s before full automation. There’s zero reason to suggest Detroit has any potential commercial opportunities/development on any large scale in the foreseeable future and when the interest rate cycle ends and rates rise in a meaningful quantity land in Detroit will be worth less than the paper the deed is written on.
Dan Gilbert seems to think there is ton of money in Detroit for investing. Are you aware of this? It's like in the 80's when Trump developed that fucking shit hole known as Atlantic City. Rustbelt cities have been getting a ton of money poured into them.

https://detroit.curbed.com/maps/dan-gil ... ent-mapped

https://detroit.curbed.com/maps/develop ... -transform
So are you saying it’s a prudent investment?
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:16 am
Adam wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:17 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:28 pm Land in Detroit. Awesome.
Actually, in the late 80s there was this relatively big story where Joseph Giacalone(Anthony's son) and three other guys got 40,000,000 for some acres of land from Detroit to help build a Chrysler factory. Yeah. Forty million in 80s dollars. They had bought it a few years before for a few hundred thousand.
None of the big four are opening up car factories in Detroit any more. Likely ever. It’ll be Mexico or South America. And that’s before full automation. There’s zero reason to suggest Detroit has any potential commercial opportunities/development on any large scale in the foreseeable future and when the interest rate cycle ends and rates rise in a meaningful quantity land in Detroit will be worth less than the paper the deed is written on.
I agree. Or the south. Non union states.
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Philly d wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2019 9:08 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:16 am
Adam wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 7:17 am
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:28 pm Land in Detroit. Awesome.
Actually, in the late 80s there was this relatively big story where Joseph Giacalone(Anthony's son) and three other guys got 40,000,000 for some acres of land from Detroit to help build a Chrysler factory. Yeah. Forty million in 80s dollars. They had bought it a few years before for a few hundred thousand.
None of the big four are opening up car factories in Detroit any more. Likely ever. It’ll be Mexico or South America. And that’s before full automation. There’s zero reason to suggest Detroit has any potential commercial opportunities/development on any large scale in the foreseeable future and when the interest rate cycle ends and rates rise in a meaningful quantity land in Detroit will be worth less than the paper the deed is written on.
I agree. Or the south. Non union states.
Or any areas overrun by Albanians where deadbeat gamblers live that can't pay Bettordays.
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JCB1977 wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:42 am Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, St. Louis, Detroit...all 5 of these rust belt cities have been or are going through redevelopment. Pittsburgh has become a Bio Tech hub, the entire riverfront has been redeveloped. Same in Cleveland around Lake Erie and the Cuyahoga and Ohio River. The Buffalo waterfront has been redeveloped. Will manufacturing come back the way it once was, HELL NO. Those days are gone forever. Tech companies are coming in, engineering and bio medical companies have been planting their flags in some of these rust belt cities cause they are tired of paying prices in NY, Chicago, San Fran and L.A. Even downtown Youngstown has been redeveloped. One of my best friends bought 3 buildings in Downtown Youngstown and asked me 20 years ago to go in with him. I laughed in his face. He paid $30k for all three buildings. Each building now is worth over $300k a piece. He has two of them rented out to businesses and kept a building where he has his law office and a bar downstairs. The city of Youngstown gave him $100k per building to renovate and a 20 year tax abatement. When he bought them, nobody would walk down the street....now it's a mecca for entertainment, bars, restaurants, retail stores plus Denise DeBartolo York has her performing arts center on the same street. Lots of $$$ to be made in the rust belt.
One word--fracking
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UTC wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:34 pm
JCB1977 wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2019 8:42 am Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, St. Louis, Detroit...all 5 of these rust belt cities have been or are going through redevelopment. Pittsburgh has become a Bio Tech hub, the entire riverfront has been redeveloped. Same in Cleveland around Lake Erie and the Cuyahoga and Ohio River. The Buffalo waterfront has been redeveloped. Will manufacturing come back the way it once was, HELL NO. Those days are gone forever. Tech companies are coming in, engineering and bio medical companies have been planting their flags in some of these rust belt cities cause they are tired of paying prices in NY, Chicago, San Fran and L.A. Even downtown Youngstown has been redeveloped. One of my best friends bought 3 buildings in Downtown Youngstown and asked me 20 years ago to go in with him. I laughed in his face. He paid $30k for all three buildings. Each building now is worth over $300k a piece. He has two of them rented out to businesses and kept a building where he has his law office and a bar downstairs. The city of Youngstown gave him $100k per building to renovate and a 20 year tax abatement. When he bought them, nobody would walk down the street....now it's a mecca for entertainment, bars, restaurants, retail stores plus Denise DeBartolo York has her performing arts center on the same street. Lots of $$$ to be made in the rust belt.
One word--fracking
Fracking has certainly been the biggest economic boost. These cities and their suburbs are loaded with natural gas, especially Northeast Ohio and Western PA. Ohio is still operating with a state economic surplus plus a “road, bridges and infrastructure” savings in the billions. On the flip side, what will the long term repercussions be to the areas be because of drilling into the Earth? It’s great to see these cities beginning almost new again. They may never be what they once were because of manufacturing, but they are getting better and more diversified from a business standpoint.

As venture capital continues to boom on a national level, investors are looking to the Midwest for the next round of billion-dollar companies. In comparison to traditional entrepreneurial hubs like NYC, Boston, Seattle, Dallas, Los Angeles and Silicon Valley, the Columbus Region, and Ohio as a whole, offers comparatively low operating costs for businesses. Columbus’ attractive tax climate was ranked as one of the top three most business-friendly environments in the U.S. by KPMG an Ernst & Young.

It’s happening all over the rust belt. Love seeing these cities who got hit hard in the 70’s/80’s tear down shit and redevelop. They’re a long way from where they once were but are doing awesome things to bounce back.
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The latest and longest term DEP study concluded that the modern method of fracking, if done right, separated chemicals and ground water completely.
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