DETROIT MOBSTER “JOE HOOKS” DIES PEACEFULLY & FREE AT 87

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Ivan wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:50 pm
eboli wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:39 pm I haven't seen FBI specifically stating Detroit is a defunct family like they did with Buffalo in 2006.
I haven't seen the FBI specifically stating anything about Detroit. They just kind of vanished (like Hoffa!).
Correct me if you have any solid information to the contrary, but because of the tremendous lack of cases cited by Wiseguy, it seems that Detroit is really no different than St. Louis or Kansas City, where there are some "left over" made guys who either are retired or a few of them might be doing something on their own. That doesn't constitute an operating "Family" with a hierarchy. Plus, as a couple posters pointed out, The Feds seem to not even recognize them. No?
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Confederate wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:12 pm
Ivan wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:50 pm
eboli wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:39 pm I haven't seen FBI specifically stating Detroit is a defunct family like they did with Buffalo in 2006.
I haven't seen the FBI specifically stating anything about Detroit. They just kind of vanished (like Hoffa!).
Correct me if you have any solid information to the contrary, but because of the tremendous lack of cases cited by Wiseguy, it seems that Detroit is really no different than St. Louis or Kansas City, where there are some "left over" made guys who either are retired or a few of them might be doing something on their own. That doesn't constitute an operating "Family" with a hierarchy. Plus, as a couple posters pointed out, The Feds seem to not even recognize them. No?
That's what I meant. The FBI doesn't talk about them because there's nothing to talk about. There's either no structure, or it will be gone in a few years after the 87 year olds finally croak.
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Ivan wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:16 pm
Confederate wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:12 pm
Ivan wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:50 pm
eboli wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:39 pm I haven't seen FBI specifically stating Detroit is a defunct family like they did with Buffalo in 2006.
I haven't seen the FBI specifically stating anything about Detroit. They just kind of vanished (like Hoffa!).
Correct me if you have any solid information to the contrary, but because of the tremendous lack of cases cited by Wiseguy, it seems that Detroit is really no different than St. Louis or Kansas City, where there are some "left over" made guys who either are retired or a few of them might be doing something on their own. That doesn't constitute an operating "Family" with a hierarchy. Plus, as a couple posters pointed out, The Feds seem to not even recognize them. No?
That's what I meant. The FBI doesn't talk about them because there's nothing to talk about. There's either no structure, or it will be gone in a few years after the 87 year olds finally croak.
Yes, I knew what you meant. I was just asking in general if anyone else had any solid info (not wishful thinking) to the contrary. I agree with your assessment. :)
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Confederate wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:20 pm
Ivan wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:16 pm
Confederate wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:12 pm
Ivan wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:50 pm
eboli wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:39 pm I haven't seen FBI specifically stating Detroit is a defunct family like they did with Buffalo in 2006.
I haven't seen the FBI specifically stating anything about Detroit. They just kind of vanished (like Hoffa!).
Correct me if you have any solid information to the contrary, but because of the tremendous lack of cases cited by Wiseguy, it seems that Detroit is really no different than St. Louis or Kansas City, where there are some "left over" made guys who either are retired or a few of them might be doing something on their own. That doesn't constitute an operating "Family" with a hierarchy. Plus, as a couple posters pointed out, The Feds seem to not even recognize them. No?
That's what I meant. The FBI doesn't talk about them because there's nothing to talk about. There's either no structure, or it will be gone in a few years after the 87 year olds finally croak.
Yes, I knew what you meant. I was just asking in general if anyone else had any solid info (not wishful thinking) to the contrary. I agree with your assessment. :)
From what I can tell the D'Annas really are serious active gangsters, but the rest of the family seems to be a bunch of retired or semi-retired old millionaires who might have some gambling going on. If there is a "structure" it's as a fraternal organization for old rich guys who were mobsters 40 years ago.
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Bullshit.



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Vito Parisi is/was Frank Bommarito's brother-in-law, connected to Billy Jack's crew. Nove was under his uncle Tony Z. Nove used to move blow with the Giacalone crew in the 80s so that could be the Parisi connection referenced.

Drugs have always been a giant source of income for the Detroit family dating back to the 1940s -this is nothing new, whether you want to recognize a formal structure or not.

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scott22 wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:55 pm Vito Parisi is/was Frank Bommarito's brother-in-law, connected to Billy Jack's crew. Nove was under his uncle Tony Z. Nove used to move blow with the Giacalone crew in the 80s so that could be the Parisi connection referenced.

Drugs have always been a giant source of income for the Detroit family dating back to the 1940s -this is nothing new, whether you want to recognize a formal structure or not.

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When you say "always been a giant source of income for Detroit," I assume you don't mean up to the present. Because evidence for the family being involved in drugs (at least deeply involved) over the last 25+ years is virtually non-existent.
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The same people disrupting every single Detroit thread. We have heard your same shit over and over, we get it...so just stay out.

Ridiculous.
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Ivan wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:31 pm
Confederate wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:20 pm
Ivan wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:16 pm
Confederate wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:12 pm
Ivan wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:50 pm
eboli wrote: Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:39 pm I haven't seen FBI specifically stating Detroit is a defunct family like they did with Buffalo in 2006.
I haven't seen the FBI specifically stating anything about Detroit. They just kind of vanished (like Hoffa!).
Correct me if you have any solid information to the contrary, but because of the tremendous lack of cases cited by Wiseguy, it seems that Detroit is really no different than St. Louis or Kansas City, where there are some "left over" made guys who either are retired or a few of them might be doing something on their own. That doesn't constitute an operating "Family" with a hierarchy. Plus, as a couple posters pointed out, The Feds seem to not even recognize them. No?
That's what I meant. The FBI doesn't talk about them because there's nothing to talk about. There's either no structure, or it will be gone in a few years after the 87 year olds finally croak.
Yes, I knew what you meant. I was just asking in general if anyone else had any solid info (not wishful thinking) to the contrary. I agree with your assessment. :)
From what I can tell the D'Annas really are serious active gangsters, but the rest of the family seems to be a bunch of retired or semi-retired old millionaires who might have some gambling going on. If there is a "structure" it's as a fraternal organization for old rich guys who were mobsters 40 years ago.
So so many of these Detroit guys invested into legitimate enterprises...especially land. They were smart
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Land in Detroit. Awesome.
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SonnyBlackstein wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:28 pm Land in Detroit. Awesome.
All over Michigan...waterfront properties in UP, commercial properties all over the state and in other states. Certain areas of Detroit are getting redeveloped with billions going into the city...lots of shit properties getting bought up by developers. Buying low and selling at a premium...it’s called being smart. They had racetracks, horse farms, country clubs...very extensive real estate holdings. Plus legitimate businesses. Jack Tocco has a business degree with a concentration in finance. He was a money making machine. Pulled off what Michael Corleone was trying to do in 2.
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JCB1977 wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:34 pm
SonnyBlackstein wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 6:28 pm Land in Detroit. Awesome.
All over Michigan...waterfront properties in UP, commercial properties all over the state and in other states. Certain areas of Detroit are getting redeveloped with billions going into the city...lots of shit properties getting bought up by developers. Buying low and selling at a premium...it’s called being smart. They had racetracks, horse farms, country clubs...very extensive real estate holdings. Plus legitimate businesses. Jack Tocco has a business degree with a concentration in finance. He was a money making machine. Pulled off what Michael Corleone was trying to do in 2.
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Fughedaboutit wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:00 pm The same people disrupting every single Detroit thread. We have heard your same shit over and over, we get it...so just stay out.

Ridiculous.
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Fughedaboutit wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:00 pm The same people disrupting every single Detroit thread. We have heard your same shit over and over, we get it...so just stay out.
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JCB1977 wrote: Fri Jun 07, 2019 7:34 pm Certain areas of Detroit are getting redeveloped with billions going into the city...lots of shit properties getting bought up by developers. Buying low and selling at a premium...it’s called being smart.
Yeah I was about to say, you could probably make a huge profit by gentrifying the Detroit ghetto if you put your mind to it.
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