Post-2000 Murder Conspiracies
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Post-2000 Murder Conspiracies
We have had threads listing the relatively few mafia-linked murders from the 2000s to present, but not sure I've seen us try to list murder conspiracies. With recent info that has come to light about plots within the Lucchese and Colombo family, it seems to be a good time to put this together. I'm terrible at compiling this kind of info, but I wanted to get the thread started. As people list examples I will edit them into master list in this post.
This can and should include examples where the murder contract wasn't fulfilled. I will include any examples where a hit was planned or seriously considered, not only examples where leadership explicitly approved/issued a contract.
This can and should include examples where the murder contract wasn't fulfilled. I will include any examples where a hit was planned or seriously considered, not only examples where leadership explicitly approved/issued a contract.
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Re: Post-2000 Murder Conspiracies
Here’s a few i can think of off the top of my head- The Lucchese family considering whacked a bunch of Albanians in 2004. Bonanno boss vinny basciano ordering the murder of Genovese associate Joe Bonelli in 2004. There was a plot by Bonanno members to whack Bonanno boss Mike Mancuso in 2005-2006. Colombo capo teddy persico jr planned to whack soldier Craig Marino around 2005. Lastly Lucchese underboss Steven Crea sr ordered the murder of Bonnano associate Carl Ulzheimer in 2012.
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Here's an easy one. Pete Caprio was working with New York and others to get support for taking out Joe Ligambi, George Borgesi, and Steve Mazzone when he got arrested in March of 2000. He plead to murder conspiracy. I think he testified he had the support of Lawrence Ricci with the Genovese and was working to garner further support or had further support with the other families.
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Caprio also had the support of Gambino Soldier/Capo Tony Proto.
Another one was that boneheaded Gambino plot to kill Sammy Gravano in the early 2000s.
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Another one was that boneheaded Gambino plot to kill Sammy Gravano in the early 2000s.
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Re: Post-2000 Murder Conspiracies
Good topic here.
Off the top of my head..
The Genovese associates that used the Crips to try to hit neighborhood tough guy Joseph Bonelli.
While not necessarily a planned hit, Colombo captain Anthony Russo held a card game in the Bronx after shutting down a competitor nearby and had instructed his guys to be armed and ready to “shoot the shit” out of his competition should they have tried to retaliate during their game
In the Tommy Shots thread Gohn had mentioned that Teddy Jr also had planned to whack out George Fanelli as well. Hoping my man Gohn has any more detail regarding that planned hit?
Off the top of my head..
The Genovese associates that used the Crips to try to hit neighborhood tough guy Joseph Bonelli.
While not necessarily a planned hit, Colombo captain Anthony Russo held a card game in the Bronx after shutting down a competitor nearby and had instructed his guys to be armed and ready to “shoot the shit” out of his competition should they have tried to retaliate during their game
In the Tommy Shots thread Gohn had mentioned that Teddy Jr also had planned to whack out George Fanelli as well. Hoping my man Gohn has any more detail regarding that planned hit?
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Another one was DeCavalcante Capo Charles Stango plotting to hire some bikers to kill Soldier Luigi Oliveri a few years back.
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in 2012 Matthew Madonna attempted to hire Arnold Lawson to whack Ernest Aiello
Steven Crea sr allegelly wanted to kill Carl Ulzheimer in 2012/2013 over the beef with the bonnano family, althought vincent bruno is now claiming it was over somehthing Carl said to his sister to protect crea.
In or about December 1999, Crea Sr. suggested that Gerry Woods should be killed
June 2014 Robert Debello (made genovese) approved this hit https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/ge ... -and-other
Steven Crea sr allegelly wanted to kill Carl Ulzheimer in 2012/2013 over the beef with the bonnano family, althought vincent bruno is now claiming it was over somehthing Carl said to his sister to protect crea.
In or about December 1999, Crea Sr. suggested that Gerry Woods should be killed
June 2014 Robert Debello (made genovese) approved this hit https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/ge ... -and-other
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Did anything ever come of the Bonanno associate who got killed in the drive-thru? I remember they got a member of the Bloods street gang but don’t remember if it was actually ordered by the Mafia.
Also they tried to hit the son too a few months prior
Also they tried to hit the son too a few months prior
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A few Blood members were charged but that's about it. Never saw anything else, including the theory about Albanians behind it, confirmed.thekiduknow wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:49 am Did anything ever come of the Bonanno associate who got killed in the drive-thru? I remember they got a member of the Bloods street gang but don’t remember if it was actually ordered by the Mafia.
Also they tried to hit the son too a few months prior
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What’d Aiello do and why did the hit never happen?Stroccos wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:33 am in 2012 Matthew Madonna attempted to hire Arnold Lawson to whack Ernest Aiello
Steven Crea allegelly wanted to kill Carl Ulzheimer in 2012/2013 over the beef with the bonnano family, althought vincent bruno is now claiming it was over somehthing Carl said to his sister to protect crea.
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That case didn’t seem mob related. The Bonnano associate prob robbed some drug dealer tied to the bloods and that lead to his death. Just me guessing but i doubt the killing was related to the Albanians either.thekiduknow wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:49 am Did anything ever come of the Bonanno associate who got killed in the drive-thru? I remember they got a member of the Bloods street gang but don’t remember if it was actually ordered by the Mafia.
Also they tried to hit the son too a few months prior
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https://gangsterreport.com/who-is-sean- ... se-family/
Joseph (Joe Glasses) Datello tried in 2016 to get whack Sean Richard a former son-in-law of NJ boss John Riggi because in 2000 he flipped on the construction rackets and Riggi, Crea, Truscello and Datello was nailed in the Operation Textbook.
Joseph (Joe Glasses) Datello tried in 2016 to get whack Sean Richard a former son-in-law of NJ boss John Riggi because in 2000 he flipped on the construction rackets and Riggi, Crea, Truscello and Datello was nailed in the Operation Textbook.
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Didn't the speculation about the Albanian involvement come from the fact that the LE unit investigating the hit was the same one investigating Albanian/Balkan OC?
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Ah that’s right, I remember seeing that theory now. It was supposedly over some joker poker games or some other form of electronic gambling right?Wiseguy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:52 amA few Blood members were charged but that's about it. Never saw anything else, including the theory about Albanians behind it, confirmed.thekiduknow wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:49 am Did anything ever come of the Bonanno associate who got killed in the drive-thru? I remember they got a member of the Bloods street gang but don’t remember if it was actually ordered by the Mafia.
Also they tried to hit the son too a few months prior
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don't know the details, all it said was what I wrote , I am sure the details will come out at the Madonna trial that comes from John pennisislimshady_007 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:55 amWhat’d Aiello do and why did the hit never happen?Stroccos wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:33 am in 2012 Matthew Madonna attempted to hire Arnold Lawson to whack Ernest Aiello
Steven Crea allegelly wanted to kill Carl Ulzheimer in 2012/2013 over the beef with the bonnano family, althought vincent bruno is now claiming it was over somehthing Carl said to his sister to protect crea.
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