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So Paradiso replaced Cali. Cali was Consig, Manino Under and Cefalu as boss or acting.
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Cali was the UnderBoss.


As for this piece it not exactly what Capeci said.


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So the Gambino admin is Pete Gotti as official boss, Cefalu as underboss/ acting boss, Mannino as acting underboss/ street boss, and Paradiso as consigliere.
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Nothing new. They twist Capeci's words from recent GL in that article. For anybody who missed it:
GL 3/21/19 wrote: Some sources say Cefalu is the official boss. But many say he's an acting boss, and that Peter Gotti, 79, and not due for release from prison until 2032, is the official boss. But the sources agree that Cali was the family's underboss, not the top guy.
GL 4/18/19 wrote: The sources say that 79-year-old Michael (Mickey Boy) Paradiso, who has spent about 25 years behind bars during a crime spree that's lasted 55 plus years, will technically serve as the family's consigliere, or number three man in the family hierarchy. Paradiso will serve alongside two powerful members of the family's Sicilian faction, Domenico (Italian Dom) Cefalu, 72, and Lorenzo Mannino, 60.
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Well according this page Mannino is the official boss:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxXvuoplnmR ... zgonhlv3a3

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Looks to me like this article is misleading, and very disappointing. Isn't this really no new news at this point. Nothing in the article changes my mind.
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Official titles aside, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Mannino is calling the shots. Cefalu has to just be in an advisory/final say in urgent matters type role today one would think.
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Isn’t Lorenzo under investigation at the moment?
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slimshady_007 wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 5:14 pm Isn’t Lorenzo under investigation at the moment?
I'd be surprised if he wasn't.
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slimshady_007 wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 10:01 am So the Gambino admin is Pete Gotti as official boss, Cefalu as underboss/ acting boss, Mannino as acting underboss/ street boss, and Paradiso as consigliere.
Acting boss is same thing as "street boss". No need for complicating things any further. According to the evidence we have, Peter Gotti is the official boss. Cali was the official underboss (if you believe Capeci) and Cefalu was acting boss, even if Cali outranked him. His exact rank is not identified as far as I know. Mannino was a captain who now seems to have moved up the ladder. If Cefalu is still the acting boss today, Mannino could be underboss (replacing Cali) or a captain who is presently acting underboss. Paradiso is consigliere or acting consigliere.
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HairyKnuckles wrote: Mon May 13, 2019 2:28 am
slimshady_007 wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 10:01 am So the Gambino admin is Pete Gotti as official boss, Cefalu as underboss/ acting boss, Mannino as acting underboss/ street boss, and Paradiso as consigliere.
Acting boss is same thing as "street boss". No need for complicating things any further. According to the evidence we have, Peter Gotti is the official boss. Cali was the official underboss (if you believe Capeci) and Cefalu was acting boss, even if Cali outranked him. His exact rank is not identified as far as I know. Mannino was a captain who now seems to have moved up the ladder. If Cefalu is still the acting boss today, Mannino could be underboss (replacing Cali) or a captain who is presently acting underboss. Paradiso is consigliere or acting consigliere.
I thought street boss was a messenger or a scapegoat or sorts for the family’s boss/acting boss. Didn’t Gigante have a street boss and acting boss at the same time during his reign?
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slimshady_007 wrote: Mon May 13, 2019 2:58 am
HairyKnuckles wrote: Mon May 13, 2019 2:28 am
slimshady_007 wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 10:01 am So the Gambino admin is Pete Gotti as official boss, Cefalu as underboss/ acting boss, Mannino as acting underboss/ street boss, and Paradiso as consigliere.
Acting boss is same thing as "street boss". No need for complicating things any further. According to the evidence we have, Peter Gotti is the official boss. Cali was the official underboss (if you believe Capeci) and Cefalu was acting boss, even if Cali outranked him. His exact rank is not identified as far as I know. Mannino was a captain who now seems to have moved up the ladder. If Cefalu is still the acting boss today, Mannino could be underboss (replacing Cali) or a captain who is presently acting underboss. Paradiso is consigliere or acting consigliere.
I thought street boss was a messenger or a scapegoat or sorts for the family’s boss/acting boss. Didn’t Gigante have a street boss and acting boss at the same time during his reign?
The whole "acting boss" "street boss" thing is a real grey area. The government often uses the terms interchangeably, at least with the Colombos. But, on paper, there is a FBI-defined difference between acting boss and street boss. Relevant testimony from Andrew Russo's 2011 detention hearing:
The official boss of the Colombo family is still Carmine Persico but he’s in prison for 100-year sentence. His son Alphonse Persico was designated as the acting boss for his father. He is now in prison for life. Therefore, they need a boss that’s not incarcerated and has the ability to interact with not only the Colombo family but with other families to mediate disputes and run the family. That individual in March of 2010 was designated as Andrew Russo at that point.


Russo's lawyers went back and forth with the government to try and break down the ambiguity between the two terms. For instance, Scott Curtis testified in court that Carmine was official boss and Allie was acting boss. When confronted with court documents that showed Tommy Gioeli was prosecuted as the Colombo family's "acting boss" as opposed to "street boss," he clarified that despite what court papers said, Gioeli was the street boss "and his reign ended the minute he got arrested."

When asked if both Allie Persico and Gioeli were acting bosses at the same time, Curtis said this;
Tommy Gioeli was out on the street. He was considered a boss. Specifically he was designated a street boss because he was the only one that wasn’t in jail that could run the Colombo family.


So, my take on the situation is that HairyKnuckles is slightly wrong in that there IS a difference between acting & street boss, but Slimshady is also wrong if he thinks that there is somehow a need for a street boss if the acting boss is fully capable of running the family on the street. That's just my take.

Another interesting tidbit from Scott Curtis;
Q. Now, does the street boss get the spoils of being the street boss?
A. Unfortunately, no.

THE COURT: I’m sorry. I’m going to object to that question because I don’t know what that means.
MR. SCRIBNIK: I apologize, Your Honor. Let me rephrase it.
BY MR. SCRIBNIK:
Q. Does the benefit of being the street boss mean that you -- the street boss earns income from the activities of the alleged mentors?
A. Unfortunately, most of the time he doesn’t.

The reason that's interesting to me is because there is no evidence of Andrew Russo receiving any tribute money from March 2010 to January 2011 (his reign) but there is PLENTY of evidence that Benjamin Castellazzo - the Colombo family underboss - received tribute money from various different soldiers and associates from March 2010 to January 2011.
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slimshady_007 wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 10:01 am So the Gambino admin is Pete Gotti as official boss, Cefalu as underboss/ acting boss, Mannino as acting underboss/ street boss, and Paradiso as consigliere.

I thought street boss was a messenger or a scapegoat or sorts for the family’s boss/acting boss. Didn’t Gigante have a street boss and acting boss at the same time during his reign?
Acting Boss=Street Boss=Front Boss for the most part. They are all made up terms for the same thing. Basically the guy who runs the day-to-day operations of the family for the boss. Some of them had more power, some less. It depends on the time period, the family, circumstances, etc.

Under Gigante LE identified Bellomo as street boss between 1992 and 1996. Then in 1996 after the admin was busted a "committee" was formed which assisted the acting boss with running the family for the next decade. It was more like a panel of senior members. The recent info that Snakes and B. dug out about Cirillo hints that the family might have had a similar arrangement to that of the committee shortly before Bellomo was promoted in 92, during the late-80's and early-90's period when Bobby Manna and Benny Eggs were indicted.
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eboli wrote: Mon May 13, 2019 3:50 am
slimshady_007 wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 10:01 am So the Gambino admin is Pete Gotti as official boss, Cefalu as underboss/ acting boss, Mannino as acting underboss/ street boss, and Paradiso as consigliere.

I thought street boss was a messenger or a scapegoat or sorts for the family’s boss/acting boss. Didn’t Gigante have a street boss and acting boss at the same time during his reign?
Acting Boss=Street Boss=Front Boss for the most part. They are all made up terms for the same thing. Basically the guy who runs the day-to-day operations of the family for the boss. Some of them had more power, some less. It depends on the time period, the family, circumstances, etc.

Under Gigante LE identified Bellomo as street boss between 1992 and 1996. Then in 1996 after the admin was busted a "committee" was formed which assisted the acting boss with running the family for the next decade. It was more like a panel of senior members. The recent info that Snakes and B. dug out about Cirillo hints that the family might have had a similar arrangement to that of the committee shortly before Bellomo was promoted in 92, during the late-80's and early-90's period when Bobby Manna and Benny Eggs were indicted.
An acting boss, however, will generally be given more power and autonomy than a street boss. For instance, I imagine acting bosses like Domenico Cefalu and Vincent Badalamenti were entitled to tribute money and were given autonomy to induct new members without having to run it by Peter Gotti or Michael Mancuso, compared to, for example, street bosses like Ralph DeLeo and Andy Russo, who received little-to-no tribute payments from their underlings or given the autonomy to make high-level decisions without running it past Carmine or Allie.
Again, just my two cents.
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