Montreal Mafia status - Post Rizzuto Era

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CabriniGreen wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:40 pm
OcSleeper wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 8:11 am I don't know about that. Of the names that JdM listed some were said to be killed for other reasons. For example, Philipos Kollaros was one name and he was a Sinaloa cartel trafficker who was said to have fallen out of favour with them after shipments were siezed. Another was Piero Arena, and it was said he was likely killed due to debts he owed to the Rizzutos.
Why do you disagree, then use a Sinaloa connected trafficker killed as retribution for a lost shipment as an example? Very weird choice my man.
I disagree because my example and your statement are completely different. You said the Mexicans are moving everyone out of the wholesale coke business, assuming for the purpose of replacing them with their own guys right? My example was a Sinaloa guy being killed not to move him out of the wholesale but because he lost shipments. My other example was a mafia connected trafficker who was likely killed for debts he owed to the Rizzutos. Again completely different than the cartel killing these guys to push them out.

The cartels are already well established across Canada with their own networks set up and Canadian wholesalers who are making them money. There's no reason to be killing them to push them out.
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That’s true ^, plus the only people I can see them killing are independents or traffickers with small groups. The Mexicans don’t have muscle up in Canada, they have to contract someone else to kill people for them, for example a biker club or a trustworthy street gang. I highly doubt that the bikers or even an organized street gang (hells angels for example) would accept a contract out on an important person in the mafia without the mob’s permission. That would mean they would be killed themselves
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Moscone65 wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:31 am That’s true ^, plus the only people I can see them killing are independents or traffickers with small groups. The Mexicans don’t have muscle up in Canada, they have to contract someone else to kill people for them, for example a biker club or a trustworthy street gang. I highly doubt that the bikers or even an organized street gang (hells angels for example) would accept a contract out on an important person in the mafia without the mob’s permission. That would mean they would be killed themselves
It truly baffles me you guys can think something like this after Nick Rizzuto and Ducarme Joseph.....and everything else thats happened up there....

Didn't.... Johnny Roposo... the rip off guys... with that Caputo.... the cartel didn't target them for death? For a ripoff?

Canada isn't Europe. The whole reason Sinaloa went up there was the easy visa restrictions. They can't send a hitter to Canada? What do you mean?

A standing pressence of a Mexican cartel would marginalize an independent importer...... what ever he happens to be, Irish, French, whatever. You would need South American contacts to compete...

And they really don't have to kill anyone. All they have to do is outsupply all their competition. Everyone will eventually come to them for drugs, unless someone establishes a pipeline from S.A., like the Violis did...

To my knowledge, I don't know who in Montreal would be that guy. Petriantonio? Mucci? Miriarchi? Not one of these independents could outsupply a cartel. But with the right connects, they could compete on price and maintain some market share...
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CabriniGreen wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:59 am
Moscone65 wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:31 am That’s true ^, plus the only people I can see them killing are independents or traffickers with small groups. The Mexicans don’t have muscle up in Canada, they have to contract someone else to kill people for them, for example a biker club or a trustworthy street gang. I highly doubt that the bikers or even an organized street gang (hells angels for example) would accept a contract out on an important person in the mafia without the mob’s permission. That would mean they would be killed themselves
It truly baffles me you guys can think something like this after Nick Rizzuto and Ducarme Joseph.....and everything else thats happened up there....

Didn't.... Johnny Roposo... the rip off guys... with that Caputo.... the cartel didn't target them for death? For a ripoff?

Canada isn't Europe. The whole reason Sinaloa went up there was the easy visa restrictions. They can't send a hitter to Canada? What do you mean?

A standing pressence of a Mexican cartel would marginalize an independent importer...... what ever he happens to be, Irish, French, whatever. You would need South American contacts to compete...

And they really don't have to kill anyone. All they have to do is outsupply all their competition. Everyone will eventually come to them for drugs, unless someone establishes a pipeline from S.A., like the Violis did...

To my knowledge, I don't know who in Montreal would be that guy. Petriantonio? Mucci? Miriarchi? Not one of these independents could outsupply a cartel. But with the right connects, they could compete on price and maintain some market share...
It’s possible but I think unlikely. Also, Mexicans sending hitters up here is a bit far fetched. From what we have seen in the past they pay groups like the HA to be their guys on the ground in Canada. Sure they have guys for facilitation here, I’ve seen them around, greasy/creepy looking Mexican guys that go meet with the calabrese and Sicilians in Woodbridge. There’s not many Mexicans here though
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L’entreprise de la famille d’un mafieux réclame 1,6 million à un projet du gendre d’Accurso

https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/2022 ... ccurso.php
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^^^^
The Quebec business registry entry for the Pietrantonios’ numbered company:

https://www.evernote.com/shard/s229/sh/ ... 55193ee250
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Hitman-turned-informant Frédérick Silva can't find a lawyer to represent him
The situation is delaying his sentence for killing a Concordia University student outside an N.D.G. strip club in 2017.
https://montrealgazette.com/news/local- ... resent-him

Frédéric Silva cherche désespérément un avocat
https://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/just ... avocat.php
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OcSleeper wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:11 pm Who is Domenico in relation to Vincenzo?
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Vincenzo Armeni's visitation is not at the Loreto.

https://www.magnuspoirier.com/fr/avis-d ... nzo-armeni
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Maybe he had a falling out with the current rizzuto admin….
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antimafia wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 3:22 pm Vincenzo Armeni's visitation is not at the Loreto.

https://www.magnuspoirier.com/fr/avis-d ... nzo-armeni
Mise à jour.

https://www.magnuspoirier.com/en/obitua ... nzo-armeni
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A new documentary on the West End Gang will premiere this month and it looks awesome:

https://www.crave.ca/en/tv-shows/kings-of-coke
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^^^^
New true crime documentary dives into Montreal's shady past
https://dailyhive.com/montreal/kings-co ... 3Dsharebar

«Les rois de la coke»: réalité pulpeuse
https://www.ledevoir.com/culture/ecrans ... e-pulpeuse
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