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They are the deep state media. Lmao. That's fucking gold. I'm dying over here. Lmao.

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So I’m a pretty damn good con man if I’ve been doing it this long, right ? Why haven’t I been cancelled? Why do mainstream media/entertainment outlets (Netflix, Paramount, Starz , VICE) keep hiring me to EP & consult on all their oc related content? They must not be doing their homework.huh? Maybe they could call you . Oh wait you don’t tell anyone your real names. Could be difficult to connect you to them , but I’ll sure try lol
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So let’s keep a sports theme we the screenshots of court docs I’m posting… they mention boxer Baby Joe Messi. And the mention the Buffalo Bills Tommy Doctor who grew up in a Buffalo and became a BPD officer. He was investigated for public corruption “going to Gable’s and tipping off IOC guys about investigations.”

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BTW his brother Sean Doctor, also a former Buffalo Bills player, was busted for improper asbestos abatement. BTW he got a job with the Buffalo Fire Department and anyone who had any inside knowledge of the way things work in Buffalo knew guys that are close with “the family” have a in to jobs with BFD or the Sewer Authority. Somebody lookup the job Fred Bongiovanni, Joe’s dad had.

Here the article on Sean Doctor: https://buffalonews.com/news/former-bil ... user-share
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scott22 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:52 pm Conning my way into all this money and prestige . It’s a glorious grift. Says nobody who reports or does journalism for a living

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LOL, I know a few journalist and what you say is absolutely correct.
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scott22 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:52 pm So I’m a pretty damn good con man if I’ve been doing it this long, right ? Why haven’t I been cancelled? Why do mainstream media/entertainment outlets (Netflix, Paramount, Starz , VICE) keep hiring me to EP & consult on all their oc related content? They must not be doing their homework.huh? Maybe they could call you . Oh wait you don’t tell anyone your real names. Could be difficult to connect you to them , but I’ll sure try lol
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And all of that doesn’t make your claim about the non-existent Peter Cataldo being a top Genovese Capo or Chicago having 80 made members in 2010 or a former Associate being a longtime Consigliere and next in line to be “Syndicate Don” or any of your dozens of other ridiculous claims any less wrong.


But nice try at deflecting. ;)


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And here is Scott making a video about the made up Peter “Scarface” Cataldo being a Genovese Capo. Apparently he is well liked and a big earner. :lol:


At 1:05

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBz6NE1IF7o
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:07 pm
scott22 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:52 pm So I’m a pretty damn good con man if I’ve been doing it this long, right ? Why haven’t I been cancelled? Why do mainstream media/entertainment outlets (Netflix, Paramount, Starz , VICE) keep hiring me to EP & consult on all their oc related content? They must not be doing their homework.huh? Maybe they could call you . Oh wait you don’t tell anyone your real names. Could be difficult to connect you to them , but I’ll sure try lol
Man,
Conning my way into all this money and prestige . It’s a glorious grift. Says nobody who reports or does journalism for a living

Scott

And all of that doesn’t make your claim about the non-existent Peter Cataldo being a top Genovese Capo or Chicago having 80 made members in 2010 or a former Associate being a longtime Consigliere and next in line to be “Syndicate Don” or any of your dozens of other ridiculous claims any less wrong.


But nice try at deflecting. ;)


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And you’re not deflecting? You didn’t address any of Scott’s questions and instead made an accusation. This is a classic debate technique called whataboutism. Pogo acting just like a politician… LMAO

What is the logic of a whataboutism?

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Some people may be fooled by your logical fallacies, but I’m not.
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Pogo The Clown wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 8:24 pm And here is Scott making a video about the made up Peter “Scarface” Cataldo being a Genovese Capo. Apparently he is well liked and a big earner. :lol:


At 1:05

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBz6NE1IF7o
Deflection to distract people from the fact that you didn’t address Scott’s questions and argument. I ask people to insist that Pogo addresses those before making his accusations to distract you from Scott’s argument. Why would Pogo the excellent debater do this? Could it be that Scott’s questions/argument is too strong for Pogo to handle?
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NickleCity wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 2:14 pm Look like Burnstein's reporting has been on the mark with his article on Paul "Hotdog" Francofort. Hotdog was definitely close with Todaro Sr and the government has pictures of him, Sr, and Vic Sansonese.

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A little more on Buffalo Mob Associate Paul “Hotdog” Francoforte:

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Pete Cataldo is a real person and skipper in the Genovese . And he is “well liked “ and a “good earner”

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So Hotdog is a known associate… he was close to Todaro Sr and in pictures with him… Here is the kicker: He is seen in a car crossing the border with DEA Agent Joe Bongiovanni!

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And again what’s my angle if I’m conning people?

I don’t see it. I have a law degree , I could be making ten times more money if I was motivated by materialism , but I decided this path of meager means and constant harrasment and threats instead ?
To get a buck a week from people reading my articles? Instead of 500 an hour ?
I gotta be the dumbest , most inefficient con man of all time . It’s actually quite embarrassing. Lol

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scott22 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:08 pm Pete Cataldo is a real person and skipper in the Genovese . And he is “well liked “ and a “good earner”

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Scott has answered your deflection. Please address Scott’s questions.
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NickleCity wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:12 pm So Hotdog is a known associate… he was close to Todaro Sr and in pictures with him… Here is the kicker: He is seen in a car crossing the border with DEA Agent Joe Bongiovanni!

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I’m assuming he crossed the border, based on this.

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Newyorkempire wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:42 pmYou're such a goof. That means you're a fraud. A rat. A simp.

No one is hiding. No one is popping up under other names. I've been steadfast for years. Years and years and years.

The threat is you wouldn't say any of this shit to anyone to there face. You're a nobody. I run circles around you when it comes to this shit. Always have and always will.

Predicting the death of Buffalo is one thing. But as it currently sits, you're wrong. Bottomline. 20 years from now it may be over but we are talking NOW. You're trying to claim you'll be proven right in the future. We're in the present dumb fuck

You making claims means dick. Pogo means dick. Stop riding his dick and speak for yourself. No one gives a fuck. Straight goofs. Would get knocked out chewing on your teeth if you said half this shit in person. Those are the real facts. Don't need indictments or FBI reports to know that's the realest truth on this forum.

Again. Meet up in person. I'll travel. DM me. Shit can get as factual as you want it to
Not only is Buffalo a viable family "NOW," it hasn't been for a long time. The fact you talk as if it will take another 20 years for them to die our shows just how out of touch with reality you are.

And what's this "I'll travel" horseshit? You ain't traveling anywhere internet tough guy.
NickleCity wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:04 pmSo FBI SA Burns indicates he was investigating IOC activity at Gables back in 2009 and Bongi tipped Selva and Serio not go there or talk to Baby Joe Messi, who was cooperating at the time. We know from my previous response SA Burns equates IOC and the Buffalo Italian Organized Crime Family to the Buffalo LCN family (his preferred description.)
The dispute is in your takeaway from this. Time and again you've been shown several examples of other defunct families that had the same things you're trying to use as evidence for Buffalo being viable. But you've either ignored them or acted like Buffalo is somehow different than all the rest.
scott22 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:17 pm I’m a con man for reporting that the Buffalo mob still exists and is a functioning organization?

Is that what you are saying ?
Yes. But that's nothing new for you. You've done that with several families no longer active.
So do the people I source in Buffalo (mob guys, associates , prosecutors , fbi & dea agents current and retired) don’t exist either? Or they do exist and They are making things up to fuel a false narrative ?
I think you often haven't spoken with anyone and you've just invented stuff out of thin air. Other times you may have interviewed somebody but what they say to you, and how that looks after going through the Burnstein filter, are too different things.

There's just been too many examples. Too many times your information hasn't panned out if you really had solid sources. The positions you give many guys, the state of various families, and the state of the LCN in the U S. overall.
Furthermore, believe me I will have the last laugh here and in 2/3 years I will be the only mob reporter standing and will own this entire continent s reporting space . Done and done .
I'm not sure how you being the last mob reporter to turn out the lights gives you the "last laugh." But your reporting on Buffalo will prove to be just as foolish as your reporting on Detroit. Going back nearly 20 years to the Real Deal, you made Detroit to be this elaborately hierarchical, still very active criminal organization that we should have seen a lot from over that time. And yet, we never did. Now you're trying to do the same thing with Buffalo.
scott22 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:52 pm So I’m a pretty damn good con man if I’ve been doing it this long, right ? Why haven’t I been cancelled? Why do mainstream media/entertainment outlets (Netflix, Paramount, Starz , VICE) keep hiring me to EP & consult on all their oc related content? They must not be doing their homework.huh? Maybe they could call you . Oh wait you don’t tell anyone your real names. Could be difficult to connect you to them , but I’ll sure try lol
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Conning my way into all this money and prestige . It’s a glorious grift. Says nobody who reports or does journalism for a living

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Most of the mainstream doesn't do their homework. One could tell some Netflix producer just about anything on organized crime and he likely would have no clue if it was correct or not. They'll go to whoever they can put forth as an expert in the field and is available for an interview, soundbite, etc.
NickleCity wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:12 pm So Hotdog is a known associate… he was close to Todaro Sr and in pictures with him… Here is the kicker: He is seen in a car crossing the border with DEA Agent Joe Bongiovanni!
You keep posting these transcripts as if simply doing so proves your case. But most of these highlighted selections don't really establish the main point you're trying to argue. Nobody is denying there are Italians engaged in organized crime activity in Buffalo, including those with varying degrees of connection to the remnants of the Buffalo LCN family. But, once again, it's now a case of individuals engaged in Mafia style crimes than a real organized crime family.
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