Buffalo/Ontario Mob Acitivity

[Cheech]

whats the best book on the canada mafia? the 6th family book? I have never been interested before until now. whats going on currently is really fascinating. bodies getting dropped all the time it seems. wild.

I have 3 books on the subject 2 of which have been mentioned (The Sixth Family & Mafia Inc) both are excellent but my favorite was Business or Blood By Nicaso & Edwards. If you bought all 3 and read them in order (6th, Inc, BorB) you wouldn't have wasted a penny.

thanks, ill look into it.

[Moscone65]

@nickelcity or anyone else actually knowledgeable about buffalo, do you know anything about a jerry caci? I saw him yesterday at casino Niagara, want to know if he’s related to jimmy and if he’s connected or just a civilian

Don’t know about Jerry Caci, Jr, there was a Jerri C. Caci who was indicted in a mob run telemarketing case in 1995.

Also indicted Thursday on felony telemarketing fraud charges were Jerry C. Caci, 68, of Buffalo; Joseph Caci, 48, of Palm Springs; Angelo Graziano, 64, of West Palm Beach, Fla.; Phillip "Fat Philly" DioGuardi, 47, of Palm Springs; Robert Veltri, 43, of Las Vegas; Robert F. Thomas, 24, of Arcadia, Calif.; Peter F. Argiro, 64, of Desert Hot Springs, Calif.; Wilton Caver, 30, of Atlanta; Katherine Borane, also known as "Kathy Cash," 37, of Las Vegas; Todd Dahn, 23, of Chicago; and Peter Link, 37, of Chattanooga, Tenn.

Jerry Caci, Dahn and Caver formerly worked with Promotions Unlimited in Buffalo, law enforcement officials said.

Here is the link: https://buffalonews.com/1995/04/28/lott ... ting-case/

Here is Jerry C. Caci’s obituary from Dec. 2003: https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/ ... id=1718099

Interesting, thanks nickel. I was at Gianni russos show yesterday at Fallsview and he was like, special thanks to those from New York who flew out to see me, and he said that he is friends with Buffalo people out here, Bobby panaro (who I don’t think was there). Then he said jerry caci and he waved to him in the audience. There were lots of old people there who just were bored and wanted to see a show but there were quite a few greasy looking middle aged guys with leather jackets talking near the entrance to the theatre. @nicklecity

[Lupara]

Just took a look at the graveyard as I was expecting an onslaught but I only heard crickets.

[Hired_Goonz]

Yes the book has its faults, but it remains a good basis. I think that the authors exaggerate a little the power of the clan, but after it is up to us to make the share of the things. I haven't read the Peter Edwards books but he seems to be in a little more dubious theories compared to the murder of Sciascia or LoPresti (not to mention the fact that he claims that Vito would not have died as a result of his cancer). Anyway, to choose I stay on the books I mentioned above

Is Business or Blood the Edwards book? It has some value because Mafia Inc and 6th Family end before Vito comes home from prison, but I didn't like it. It's very awkwardly written. And has some weird inaccuracies; at one point it claims that Massino didn't want to kill Sciasca, but his hands were tied due to mafia protocol after George "insulted a captain in the Gambino family".

[motorfab]

Yes the book has its faults, but it remains a good basis. I think that the authors exaggerate a little the power of the clan, but after it is up to us to make the share of the things. I haven't read the Peter Edwards books but he seems to be in a little more dubious theories compared to the murder of Sciascia or LoPresti (not to mention the fact that he claims that Vito would not have died as a result of his cancer). Anyway, to choose I stay on the books I mentioned above

Is Business or Blood the Edwards book? It has some value because Mafia Inc and 6th Family end before Vito comes home from prison, but I didn't like it. It's very awkwardly written. And has some weird inaccuracies; at one point it claims that Massino didn't want to kill Sciasca, but his hands were tied due to mafia protocol after George "insulted a captain in the Gambino family".

Yes I think it's this one, but like I said I didn't read it, I just saw someone talking about it somewhere on the net.
I have a question about Mafia Inc (and sorry if I move away from the subject of Buffalo) for those who have read it: I already own Bloodlines and The Sixth Family. Is it really necessary to have it? Isn't it repetitive compared to the other two?

[Lupara]

Yes the book has its faults, but it remains a good basis. I think that the authors exaggerate a little the power of the clan, but after it is up to us to make the share of the things. I haven't read the Peter Edwards books but he seems to be in a little more dubious theories compared to the murder of Sciascia or LoPresti (not to mention the fact that he claims that Vito would not have died as a result of his cancer). Anyway, to choose I stay on the books I mentioned above

Is Business or Blood the Edwards book? It has some value because Mafia Inc and 6th Family end before Vito comes home from prison, but I didn't like it. It's very awkwardly written. And has some weird inaccuracies; at one point it claims that Massino didn't want to kill Sciasca, but his hands were tied due to mafia protocol after George "insulted a captain in the Gambino family".

Who knows what the real reason was for Sciascia's murder. Perhaps he did insult a Gambino captain among other reasons. Reasons provided before don't necessarily make them more valid.

It's true that the book contains a bunch of errors, particulary about New York. The English speaking Canadian journalists are excellent researchers for the most but they are biased when it comes to the Bonannos and Rizzitos.

[johnny_scootch]

I have a question about Mafia Inc (and sorry if I move away from the subject of Buffalo) for those who have read it: I already own Bloodlines and The Sixth Family. Is it really necessary to have it? Isn't it repetitive compared to the other two?

Mafia Inc def covers some of the same ground as Sixth Family but continues past where Sixth family leaves off and imo is a much better book and definitely worth buying. I have the 2006 original edition of Sixth Family and Mafia Inc. is a 2011 edition so you have those 4-5 years of events that aren't covered in Sixth family. I only recently ordered Bloodlines since I saw you mention it so I haven't read it but I know it was published in 2001 so that makes it impossible for it to have covered any events of the montreal war.

[NickleCity]

Paul Cambria withdraws from defense of DEA agent linked to mob case

Joseph Bongiovanni, the former DEA agent accused of taking bribes from drug dealers, is without a lawyer.

Noted criminal defense attorney Paul J. Cambria Jr. is withdrawing from the case and blaming his early departure on false conflict of interest claims by the government.

Prosecutors say Cambria once represented one of Bongiovanni's co-conspirators and that one of his law partners currently represents potential witnesses in the case.

Link to full article: https://buffalonews.com/2020/03/10/prom ... bery-case/

[Lupara]

I have a question about Mafia Inc (and sorry if I move away from the subject of Buffalo) for those who have read it: I already own Bloodlines and The Sixth Family. Is it really necessary to have it? Isn't it repetitive compared to the other two?

Mafia Inc def covers some of the same ground as Sixth Family but continues past where Sixth family leaves off and imo is a much better book and definitely worth buying. I have the 2006 original edition of Sixth Family and Mafia Inc. is a 2011 edition so you have those 4-5 years of events that aren't covered in Sixth family. I only recently ordered Bloodlines since I saw you mention it so I haven't read it but I know it was published in 2001 so that makes it impossible for it to have covered any events of the montreal war.

If you are interested in the war then Renaud's books will be the most up to date, although the authors of Mafia Inc. were the first to call it on who was behind the powerplay. Renaud's book, from what I understand, go into mote detail.

The Sixth Family was updated in circa 2014 but the new info was slim. The only part that was never mentioned by anyone else was the New York hostage playing cards with Vito's guys to secure his safe passage into Canada. That alone tells a lot.

[NickleCity]

This community may not be pumping out mafia members like it did generations ago, but it recently produced corrupt State Senator Marc Panepinto (Todaro brother-in-law and son of deceased consigliere Donald Panepinto) and corrupt DEA agent Joseph Bongiovanni. If even the "respectable" guys doing their civic duty are this corrupt, I imagine we could find a handful of rougher candidates. They inducted members in Canada, so we know they are willing to hold inductions. The question we don't know is whether inductions have taken place for WNY recruits as well. If not, what would the incentive be to limit inductions and promotions to the Canadian group?

Can anyone point me to Don Panepinto, Sr.'s obituary?

In the past, I assumed he passed, cause that seemed to be the common opinion. Recently, however, I've looked and looked and can't seem to find anything related to his death.

Don's wife is wife is Lucy or LucyAnn. We know this from when his daughter married Joey "La Nova" Todaro III. Here is the wedding announcement:

Dana Christine Panepinto and Joseph Edward Todaro were united in marriage Monday at 3 p.m. in St. Gregory the Great Catholic Church, Amherst, by the Rev. Paul M. Nogaro. Donald and LucyAnn Panepinto of Town of Tonawanda are parents of the bride and the bridegroom's parents are Joseph and Carol Ann Todaro of Williamsville. A reception was given in Samuel's Grande Manor. The couple will travel in Europe before making their home in Buffalo. The bride is a graduate Kenmore East High School and Vidal Sassoon Academy, London, England. She and her mother operate New Image Hair Designers. The bridegroom attended University at Buffalo and is an operator of La Nova Pizzeria, owned by his family.

Here is the link to the wedding announcement above: https://buffalonews.com/1993/09/07/mrs-todaro-2/

Also, it looks like Don Panepinto Sr.'s sister Sally passed away in November and her recent obituary seems to indicated he is still alive.

PANEPINTO - Sally C. Passed away peacefully on November 12, 2019, age 86; beloved daughter of the late Charles J. Sr. and Josephine (nee LoBue) Panepinto; loving sister of Donald (Lucy) and the late Charles and Joann Panepinto; sister-in-law of Christine Panepinto; adored aunt of Marc (Hon. Catherine Nugent-Panepinto) Panepinto, Dana (Steven) Nanula, Donald (Lisa) Panepinto, Aaron (Joy) LaMarca, and Linda (Ben) Konner; dearest great-aunt of Joey, Rachel, Dante, Julia, Toriana, Natasha, Eric, Charlotte, Holly, Finn, Angelina, Dominic, Olivia and Mila. The family will be present Friday from 1-3 & 5-8 PM at the (Tonawanda Chapel) AMIGONE FUNERAL HOME, INC., 2600 Sheridan Dr. (at Parker Blvd.). Family and friends are invited Saturday at 9 AM to attend a Mass of Christian Burial celebrated at St. Amelia Church, 2999 Eggert Rd., Tonawanda, NY. Interment to follow in Mt. Olivet Cemetery. In lieu of flowers, memorials may be made in Sally's memory to St. Luke's Mission of Mercy. Share condolences at www.AMIGONE.com

Here is the link to Sally Panepinto's obituary :https://www.amigone.com/obituaries/Sall ... ituaryInfo

[NickleCity]

^^^Interesting his brother Charles had the nickname "Turtle."

Obituary Link: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/750 ... -panepinto

[B.]

You know, I have no idea if he passed away or not. I was going with the consensus online and I should know better.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/154143800

^ This is a different Donald Panepinto despite living in the same area, so maybe the two were confused.

The sister's recent obituary is a good indication he is alive. Obituaries are generally very clear about the predeceased.

[Bklyn21]

Yes the book has its faults, but it remains a good basis. I think that the authors exaggerate a little the power of the clan, but after it is up to us to make the share of the things. I haven't read the Peter Edwards books but he seems to be in a little more dubious theories compared to the murder of Sciascia or LoPresti (not to mention the fact that he claims that Vito would not have died as a result of his cancer). Anyway, to choose I stay on the books I mentioned above

Vito faked his death and is still out there calling the shots

[Lupara]

Yes the book has its faults, but it remains a good basis. I think that the authors exaggerate a little the power of the clan, but after it is up to us to make the share of the things. I haven't read the Peter Edwards books but he seems to be in a little more dubious theories compared to the murder of Sciascia or LoPresti (not to mention the fact that he claims that Vito would not have died as a result of his cancer). Anyway, to choose I stay on the books I mentioned above

Vito faked his death and is still out there calling the shots [emoji848][emoji23]

Then dies of Corona, transmitted upon him by an inflitrator of the Calabrians.

[motorfab]

Yes the book has its faults, but it remains a good basis. I think that the authors exaggerate a little the power of the clan, but after it is up to us to make the share of the things. I haven't read the Peter Edwards books but he seems to be in a little more dubious theories compared to the murder of Sciascia or LoPresti (not to mention the fact that he claims that Vito would not have died as a result of his cancer). Anyway, to choose I stay on the books I mentioned above

Vito faked his death and is still out there calling the shots [emoji848][emoji23]

Then dies of Corona, transmitted upon him by an inflitrator of the Calabrians.

I knew well that all this had not happened by chance, thank you for all these clarifications