Buffalo/Ontario Mob Acitivity

[Moscone65]

The mexicans should better make sure they are playing nice and by the rules. If they are justified in their whackings they can do what they haveto do, but if they step on too many toes they will soon find out the price. This isnt their turf, in mexico they can do whatever the fuck they want, but here they are not the top dogs. They have some sway, sure, but if they want to make money here they still got to play nice with the big players.

[Moscone65]

The only thing that keeps them relevant is their control of the cocaine. Every cocaine importer around the world will need a connection that leads back to one of the cartels in one form or another.

[CabriniGreen]

With how they kill in Canada, they should feel more comfortable than the states...

[Moscone65]

True, theres just less mexicans in canada tho

[CabriniGreen]

Absolutely...... they provide a service. As long as they remember this and stay in their place.....

But then apparently they are going there in droves, easier visas.... more money per kilo......

[Moscone65]

Ya there are more mexicans in downtown toronto moreso than vaughan where most of the mob and bikers are, alot of them actually do work but i guess a couple of the drug guys sneak in

[Moscone65]

I have a buddy who worked in a warehouse that has all sorts of stolen shit in woodbridge, and he said he saw a couple of weird looking mexican guys talking with the warehouse owners. Maybe they use it to store shit idk, the owners of the warehouse are linked to sicilians, not gonna say the names though

[BobbyBacala]

I have a buddy who worked in a warehouse that has all sorts of stolen shit in woodbridge, and he said he saw a couple of weird looking mexican guys talking with the warehouse owners. Maybe they use it to store shit idk, the owners of the warehouse are linked to sicilians, not gonna say the names though

I herd even the warm up thefts in Woodbridge are mob they bring em to a chop shop and sell the parts

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[stubbs]

The only thing that keeps them relevant is their control of the cocaine. Every cocaine importer around the world will need a connection that leads back to one of the cartels in one form or another.

I mean, yeah? That’s like saying the only thing that keeps Amazon relevant is their near monopoly on everything, extremely fast shipping, excellent distribution networks, cheap inventory, etc.

If what the Mexican cartels do is easy every group would do it. But the Mexicans control the largest land-based distribution networks for drugs in the western hemisphere, by controlling the drug trade in Mexico and the US, not to mention all of the other countries they have their tentacles hooked into.

You want to ship your legal goods? you’re gonna go through Amazon, UPS, Fedex, etc. Want to ship your cocaine? Then it’s Sinaloa, CJNG, etc.

And it makes sense, I mean of course you can fly down to Colombia and get a wholesale connect, but it’s probably a lot easier to deal with the Mexicans and let em import it and ship it right to your doorstep.

[stubbs]

It's even more complicated, as the Wolfpack have had THEIR OWN internal discord too....

We wont even touch the Mexicans wacking all the independent importers and replacing them with their own guys......

Not to mention the internal wars within the Ndrangheta going on in Toronto... they’re not one group but several groups, all trying to take control

[Lupara]

It's even more complicated, as the Wolfpack have had THEIR OWN internal discord too....

We wont even touch the Mexicans wacking all the independent importers and replacing them with their own guys......

Not to mention the internal wars within the Ndrangheta going on in Toronto... they’re not one group but several groups, all trying to take control

Agreed.

[CabriniGreen]

It's even more complicated, as the Wolfpack have had THEIR OWN internal discord too....

We wont even touch the Mexicans wacking all the independent importers and replacing them with their own guys......

Not to mention the internal wars within the Ndrangheta going on in Toronto... they’re not one group but several groups, all trying to take control

The revelation for me came in that Gangsters Inc article, when they said that Verducci, the ndrines of Ursino and Coluccio, Bruzzese, are NOT actually part of the Siderno group. Or as they put it, not dependent on the Mother locale of Siderno, but dependent on the near Mother locale of Gioiosa Iconica, and Marina di Gioiosa Iconica. I hope I spelled those right, lol.

How the arrest of The Master Commisso in Calabria, followed by the arrest of several lieutenants left a power vaccuum in the Mother locale, which the Canadian Figliomenis have taken advantage of. Apparently, also a Figliomeni women married to a Commisso had an affair with a member of the Crupi clan, which damaged the prestige of Commisso.

So far, I count it as the Commisso- Macri- Crupi- Figliomeni- Rumbo- Galea- Muia clan. They have had conflict, and this is within the SAME locale.

It's crazy up there... super interesting though....

[BobbyBacala]

It's even more complicated, as the Wolfpack have had THEIR OWN internal discord too....

We wont even touch the Mexicans wacking all the independent importers and replacing them with their own guys......

Not to mention the internal wars within the Ndrangheta going on in Toronto... they’re not one group but several groups, all trying to take control

The revelation for me came in that Gangsters Inc article, when they said that Verducci, the ndrines of Ursino and Coluccio, Bruzzese, are NOT actually part of the Siderno group. Or as they put it, not dependent on the Mother locale of Siderno, but dependent on the near Mother locale of Gioiosa Iconica, and Marina di Gioiosa Iconica. I hope I spelled those right, lol.

How the arrest of The Master Commisso in Calabria, followed by the arrest of several lieutenants left a power vaccuum in the Mother locale, which the Canadian Figliomenis have taken advantage of. Apparently, also a Figliomeni women married to a Commisso had an affair with a member of the Crupi clan, which damaged the prestige of Commisso.

So far, I count it as the Commisso- Macri- Crupi- Figliomeni- Rumbo- Galea- Muia clan. They have had conflict, and this is within the SAME locale.

It's crazy up there... super interesting though....

Read that article doesnt make sense because all the calabrese in ontario are on the camera di controllo which answer to the mother locale in siderno giuseppe ursino said on wiretaps that verduci was on the camera di controllo

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[Moscone65]

The only thing that keeps them relevant is their control of the cocaine. Every cocaine importer around the world will need a connection that leads back to one of the cartels in one form or another.

I mean, yeah? That’s like saying the only thing that keeps Amazon relevant is their near monopoly on everything, extremely fast shipping, excellent distribution networks, cheap inventory, etc.

If what the Mexican cartels do is easy every group would do it. But the Mexicans control the largest land-based distribution networks for drugs in the western hemisphere, by controlling the drug trade in Mexico and the US, not to mention all of the other countries they have their tentacles hooked into.

You want to ship your legal goods? you’re gonna go through Amazon, UPS, Fedex, etc. Want to ship your cocaine? Then it’s Sinaloa, CJNG, etc.

And it makes sense, I mean of course you can fly down to Colombia and get a wholesale connect, but it’s probably a lot easier to deal with the Mexicans and let em import it and ship it right to your doorstep.

What I’m saying is that if the coca plant could be grown effectively and proper strength, high grade cocaine could be grown/made in Africa or Indonesia in high quantities, the relevance of the cartels would decrease significantly.

[Moscone65]

The cartels hold the real power now in Columbia/Bolivia/Peru and that’s the worlds only source of coke.