General Mob Questions

[JeremyTheJew]

Another quick question is, about how many members there are that we don’t know about in each of the 5 families?


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We don't know....

[SonnyBlackstein]

Do we know how many crews the Westside has on Staten Island?

It would be great for those who know to list numbers of crews per borough per family
eg:
Bonanno
Manhattan 2
Queens 4
Bronx 1
Queens 3
Staten Island 4
NJ 1
(Just an example, the numbers are not meant to be accurate)

[SonnyBlackstein]

Is Rita Gigantes bio worth reading for LCN info/stories?

[HairyKnuckles]

Do we know how many crews the Westside has on Staten Island?

It would be great for those who know to list numbers of crews per borough per family
eg:
Bonanno
Manhattan 2
Queens 4
Bronx 1
Queens 3
Staten Island 4
NJ 1
(Just an example, the numbers are not meant to be accurate)

Sonny, crews are not tied to boroughs but can be active in several at the same time. One crew can have active members beyond borough ines and city lines and state lines. So a count like the one you are asking for is impossible to do.

[slimshady_007]

Are there any young guys in the 5 families, like in there 20’s? Also are the 5 families currently trying secretly induct new members so the FBI and public won’t know?


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Im sure there r some guys in their 20’s that have been recently inducted. For instance, say dom cefalu has a relative in his 20’s that is an associate. Chances r he will get made since he is a blood relative of a boss. Im sure some very young guys could’ve become made, especially if they r related to a made member.

[SonnyBlackstein]

Do we know how many crews the Westside has on Staten Island?

It would be great for those who know to list numbers of crews per borough per family
eg:
Bonanno
Manhattan 2
Queens 4
Bronx 1
Queens 3
Staten Island 4
NJ 1
(Just an example, the numbers are not meant to be accurate)

Sonny, crews are not tied to boroughs but can be active in several at the same time. One crew can have active members beyond borough ines and city lines and state lines. So a count like the one you are asking for is impossible to do.

I understand the particulars but we refer to borough based crews all the time eg the Bonanno Mancuso Bronx crew. Members may not live in the borough, operate or spend time, but each crew has a ‘base’ of sorts, and this can be used for the above.

Am I wrong or missing something?

[slimshady_007]

Do we know how many crews the Westside has on Staten Island?

It would be great for those who know to list numbers of crews per borough per family
eg:
Bonanno
Manhattan 2
Queens 4
Bronx 1
Queens 3
Staten Island 4
NJ 1
(Just an example, the numbers are not meant to be accurate)

Sonny, crews are not tied to boroughs but can be active in several at the same time. One crew can have active members beyond borough ines and city lines and state lines. So a count like the one you are asking for is impossible to do.

I understand the particulars but we refer to borough based crews all the time eg the Bonanno Mancuso Bronx crew. Members may not live in the borough, operate or spend time, but each crew has a ‘base’ of sorts, and this can be used for the above.

Am I wrong or missing something?

Is the mancuso bronx crew whats left of the old Patty DeFilippo crew?

[SonnyBlackstein]

Do we know how many crews the Westside has on Staten Island?

It would be great for those who know to list numbers of crews per borough per family
eg:
Bonanno
Manhattan 2
Queens 4
Bronx 1
Queens 3
Staten Island 4
NJ 1
(Just an example, the numbers are not meant to be accurate)

Sonny, crews are not tied to boroughs but can be active in several at the same time. One crew can have active members beyond borough ines and city lines and state lines. So a count like the one you are asking for is impossible to do.

I understand the particulars but we refer to borough based crews all the time eg the Bonanno Mancuso Bronx crew. Members may not live in the borough, operate or spend time, but each crew has a ‘base’ of sorts, and this can be used for the above.

Am I wrong or missing something?

Is the mancuso bronx crew whats left of the old Patty DeFilippo crew?

Yes

[Rat]

What is the day to day tasks of the consigliere? It seems to be a role that's looked over in most documentaries and pieces about the mob.

[Wiseguy]

What is the day to day tasks of the consigliere? It seems to be a role that's looked over in most documentaries and pieces about the mob.

Cases for some time now have shown the consigliere is typically more directly involved in criminal operations than we see in the traditional image of an older, semi-retired guy who just attends making ceremonies or other functions and weighs in when called upon.

[ChicagoOutfit]

Can anyone copy and paste this full article linked below? You can only see it if you join (pay?) the site.

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-e ... y-business

[eboli]

Can anyone copy and paste this full article linked below? You can only see it if you join (pay?) the site.

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-e ... y-business

FOR an inkling of how hard it is for Italian authorities to identify Mafia activity, consider how mobsters disguise the pizzo, or protection payments, they extort. The owner of a business may find that customers have been scared off by a menacing stranger. Within days a mysterious man visits. He may request a regular donation for a poor family, or ask a business to switch to a new supplier. Owners put two and two together, says Daniele Marannano, an anti-Mafia activist in Palermo: “There’s no need for further explanations.”

Such concealment is more common than in decades past, when payments were often collected monthly in cash. That has made it harder to spot extortion by analysing a business’s books, says Antonio Basilicata of the Anti-Mafia Investigation Directorate (DIA) in Rome. But software developed by Crime&tech, a firm in Milan, can still help identify companies with probable Mafia links by crunching financial and operational data.

Crime&tech’s software identifies not pizzo schemes as such, but firms that may be under mafioso control or involved in Mafia crimes such as illegal gambling and trafficking in people, drugs or arms. Its algorithms look at many variables. Businesses with little or no bank financing are more likely to have taken out a Mafia loan. Borrowers who struggle to repay may “convert the debt into stock” held by the Mafia creditor, often behind the smokescreen of a figurehead administrator, says Michele Riccardi of Crime&tech. The software considers the age and sex of a firm’s administrators. Those who are old, young or female are more likely to be figureheads.

It also looks for anomalies in payroll and invoice data that may reveal attempts to conceal illicit payments, especially in sectors where Mafia activity is strongest: construction, retail, waste removal, food services and transport. A high share of a firm’s wealth kept liquid is a red flag.

To create the software Crime&tech analysed police reports, court documents and academic studies, many conducted by researchers at Transcrime, a think-tank at Milan’s Catholic University of the Sacred Heart, from which Crime&tech is a spinoff. The team also used data on the roughly 5,000 Mafia-linked firms that have had their assets seized by the authorities in the past 30 years. The result, says Francesco Calderoni, one of Crime&tech’s founders, is “an identikit of a Mafia business”.

You’ve been made, man

Analysis by corporate-investigations firms such as Kroll, which is based in New York, is probably still a more accurate way to spot the Mafia’s fingerprints. But that can cost more than €1,500 per firm scrutinised. Automation cuts costs dramatically. An early version of Crime&tech’s software assessed the “Mafia risk” of some 4,000 firms that placed bids on contracts for Expo 2015, a fair in Milan. The software found probable Mafia links that had hitherto been unknown to the DIA.

Crime&tech’s Italian clients include two police forces, two regional government bodies and companies keen to avoid suppliers and contractors affiliated with the Mafia. Crime&tech also licenses its technology to Bureau Van Dijk (BVD), a subsidiary of Moody’s, a credit agency. Demand is brisk, BVD’s Milan office reports, with intelligence agencies and tax authorities among those using the service.

Other firms are developing similar products. Consorzio CBI, a research outfit in Rome funded by Italian banks, is improving software that tries to sniff out Mafia connections by looking for clues such as atypical transfers between a firm’s departments. In an effort to curb Mafia involvement in public contracts, Italy’s finance ministry is using the software to keep an eye on more than 10,000 bank accounts. Computer says no, mafioso.

[HairyKnuckles]

Do we know how many crews the Westside has on Staten Island?

It would be great for those who know to list numbers of crews per borough per family
eg:
Bonanno
Manhattan 2
Queens 4
Bronx 1
Queens 3
Staten Island 4
NJ 1
(Just an example, the numbers are not meant to be accurate)

Sonny, crews are not tied to boroughs but can be active in several at the same time. One crew can have active members beyond borough ines and city lines and state lines. So a count like the one you are asking for is impossible to do.

I understand the particulars but we refer to borough based crews all the time eg the Bonanno Mancuso Bronx crew. Members may not live in the borough, operate or spend time, but each crew has a ‘base’ of sorts, and this can be used for the above.

Am I wrong or missing something?

1. We would need to know every member.
2. We would need to know each member ' s captain and which crew they belong to.
3. We would need to know each captain ' s base.

Good luck with that.

[SonnyBlackstein]

Do we know how many crews the Westside has on Staten Island?

It would be great for those who know to list numbers of crews per borough per family
eg:
Bonanno
Manhattan 2
Queens 4
Bronx 1
Queens 3
Staten Island 4
NJ 1
(Just an example, the numbers are not meant to be accurate)

Sonny, crews are not tied to boroughs but can be active in several at the same time. One crew can have active members beyond borough ines and city lines and state lines. So a count like the one you are asking for is impossible to do.

I understand the particulars but we refer to borough based crews all the time eg the Bonanno Mancuso Bronx crew. Members may not live in the borough, operate or spend time, but each crew has a ‘base’ of sorts, and this can be used for the above.

Am I wrong or missing something?

1. We would need to know every member.
2. We would need to know each member ' s captain and which crew they belong to.
3. We would need to know each captain ' s base.

Good luck with that.

No.

All we need is number three.

You’re overthinking this. We could list offhand where most known Captains are ‘based’.
Westside:
Parello: Bronx, Falcetti Bronx, Ianello Manhattan, Petey Red Manhattan, Rooster Manhattan and Connecticut, The 5 jersey crews..... Jersey!

I don’t see why you’re misreading this.

[Ivan]

Can anyone copy and paste this full article linked below? You can only see it if you join (pay?) the site.

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-e ... y-business

You can usually bypass paywalls by running the article URL through this website:

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