B. wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:49 pm
Age of inductees to me is one of the biggest signs of "Americanization". I'd be curious who the oldest members made into the Sicilian mafia are, especially historically. They still tend to induct guys on the young end compared to the US.
Harry Riccobene came from a Sicilian mafia lineage and said guys were made in Sicily as young as 13 which has never been supported by names but before the teenage revolution kids were expected to become men very quickly. He was made just before his 17th birthday and said there was a rule guys had to be 17 in the US.
A huge number of eventual members came to the US at age 17. Very common age for mafia immigrants in my experience which could be for any number of reasons given this is when they became men but it does match up with them being eligible for membership based on Riccobene's rule. I've wondered if some of them were made immediately before or after coming here so that they'd have stature.
In Sicily is common that sons of mobsters will become mobsters because they grown in hood controlled by the mob,in Naples the Sorbillo clan was made of almost adult but the must part was under age.
In America where the mobbed up hoods was almost down more italians must prove to be proud to be made and in some cases was made later because dont deserve it.
After there are the case of Ralph DeLeo that was made even street boss because was a cellmate of allie boy and was italian.
As some brief background info, Marco D’Amico was originally a Taylor St guy who used to run the infamous Survivor’s Club on Taylor St (social club frequented by the “Wild Bunch”, the hitters from Joe Ferriola’s crew). In the 80s, Marco was a big guy in the outfit-controlled Rush St nightlife district (though he doesn’t seem to have ever been affiliated with the Solano/Northside crew that formally controlled that territory). Marco developed a personal friendship with Johnny DiFronzo, who was capo of Elmwood Park, then underboss and boss of the Family. DiFronzo thus brought Marco into the Elmwood Park crew. While looking at him from the outside one would really assume he was made, it’s also possible that he formally remained an associate direct with DiFronzo. Hopefully some documents will eventually be released that can clarify this (or another Chicago member in a position to clarify flips, though I wouldn’t hold my breath on that one).
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That's the best answer one can give i guess. Thanks very much
B. wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:48 pm
Am I remembering it right that Paruta also requested that Gravano kill him but Gotti wouldn't allow it? Beyond not wanting to authorize a pointless murder it makes sene as then they wouldn't be able to replace his slot.
Yeah that’s what Gravano said on his podcast. Gravano also said he made Paruta on his deathbed. Not sure if this has or can be backed up though.
Thomas Marson from the Sinatra Westchester Premier Theater case was up there per his pic. He was caught talking o na bug from Greg DePalma's house as to how much he would have to pay to get made.
