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I think of this line whenever I read about guys like Lenny Patrick and Davey Yaras lol. Also whenever I go to visit my in-laws, who live right next to Patrick's old headquarters "The Four Deuces" at Devon and Bell in West Rogers Park. The joint is now a well known Indo-Pak restaurant "Hyderabad House".
It is interesting on how during the 50s large number of Jewish population transferred from Lawndale to Rogers Park. And btw, Yaras and Patrick killed almost the same number of people for a time priod of less than 10 years, as some of the Italian crews who killed for more than 15 or 20 years lolPolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:45 amI think of this line whenever I read about guys like Lenny Patrick and Davey Yaras lol. Also whenever I go to visit my in-laws, who live right next to Patrick's old headquarters "The Four Deuces" at Devon and Bell in West Rogers Park. The joint is now a well known Indo-Pak restaurant "Hyderabad House".
The "YP crew" (lol) stands I think without a doubt as among the most vicious Jewish OC groups in US history.Villain wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:25 amIt is interesting on how during the 50s large number of Jewish population transferred from Lawndale to Rogers Park. And btw, Yaras and Patrick killed almost the same number of people for a time priod of less than 10 years, as some of the Italian crews who killed for more than 15 or 20 years lolPolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:45 amI think of this line whenever I read about guys like Lenny Patrick and Davey Yaras lol. Also whenever I go to visit my in-laws, who live right next to Patrick's old headquarters "The Four Deuces" at Devon and Bell in West Rogers Park. The joint is now a well known Indo-Pak restaurant "Hyderabad House".
Thanks for the explanation bud and yeah, i agree that it happened very quickly or as you said, overnight. Previously Lawndale gave the birth to many Jewish gangsters and as you already know, when the whole transfer occurred, Patrick also transferred on the North with the blessings from both Giancana and Prio. At the same time, Giancana told Patrick from that point on he was going to report to Alex (untill 1990), which possibly means that Patrick also transferred from the West to the South faction since he previously started with Mangano and later answered to Battaglia and Giancana. The Patrick crew was so ruthless that they even had the balls to go against the Buccieri crew lolPolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:43 amThe "YP crew" (lol) stands I think without a doubt as among the most vicious Jewish OC groups in US history.Villain wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:25 amIt is interesting on how during the 50s large number of Jewish population transferred from Lawndale to Rogers Park. And btw, Yaras and Patrick killed almost the same number of people for a time priod of less than 10 years, as some of the Italian crews who killed for more than 15 or 20 years lolPolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:45 amI think of this line whenever I read about guys like Lenny Patrick and Davey Yaras lol. Also whenever I go to visit my in-laws, who live right next to Patrick's old headquarters "The Four Deuces" at Devon and Bell in West Rogers Park. The joint is now a well known Indo-Pak restaurant "Hyderabad House".
Post WW2 the Jewish communities in the Westside -- in both North Lawndale and my neighborhood of Humboldt Park -- packed up and moved en masse to the far Northside neighborhoods of Albany Park and Rogers Park. As with the famous inner city Italian "Patches" and many old school Irish parishes of lore, inner city Jewish Chicago disintegrated practically overnight. All part of the particular structural pattern of ethnic succession in Chicago, where with each generation the immigrant groups moved in concentric circles away from the origins in the port of entry neighborhoods in the Near West side and "River Wards". When I was a kid there was still a very strong Orthodox Jewish community in West Ridge along Peterson and Devon Ave (it was like a miniature Boro Park, Brooklyn) though in recent decades that has declined a lot and the area is today a polyglot community full of Middle Easterners, Asians, Africans, Haitians etc alongside a number of remaining Orthodox.
The Polish communities were different in that Chicago for many years continued to attract a sizeable Polish immigrant population that repeatedly "re-Polonized" Chicago Polonia. A much smaller movement of Italian post-War immigrants to Elmwood Park/Harlem Avenue and Soviet Jews to the far Northside and suburbs had a similar effrct but on a much smaller scale.
Patrick and Yaras Sr were truly a couple of mean bastards, no doubt about it!Villain wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:25 amThanks for the explanation bud and yeah, i agree that it happened very quickly or as you said, overnight. Previously Lawndale gave the birth to many Jewish gangsters and as you already know, when the whole transfer occurred, Patrick also transferred on the North with the blessings from both Giancana and Prio. At the same time, Giancana told Patrick from that point on he was going to report to Alex (untill 1990), which possibly means that Patrick also transferred from the West to the South faction since he previously started with Mangano and later answered to Battaglia and Giancana. The Patrick crew was so ruthless that they even had the balls to go against the Buccieri crew lolPolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:43 amThe "YP crew" (lol) stands I think without a doubt as among the most vicious Jewish OC groups in US history.Villain wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:25 amIt is interesting on how during the 50s large number of Jewish population transferred from Lawndale to Rogers Park. And btw, Yaras and Patrick killed almost the same number of people for a time priod of less than 10 years, as some of the Italian crews who killed for more than 15 or 20 years lolPolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:45 amI think of this line whenever I read about guys like Lenny Patrick and Davey Yaras lol. Also whenever I go to visit my in-laws, who live right next to Patrick's old headquarters "The Four Deuces" at Devon and Bell in West Rogers Park. The joint is now a well known Indo-Pak restaurant "Hyderabad House".
Post WW2 the Jewish communities in the Westside -- in both North Lawndale and my neighborhood of Humboldt Park -- packed up and moved en masse to the far Northside neighborhoods of Albany Park and Rogers Park. As with the famous inner city Italian "Patches" and many old school Irish parishes of lore, inner city Jewish Chicago disintegrated practically overnight. All part of the particular structural pattern of ethnic succession in Chicago, where with each generation the immigrant groups moved in concentric circles away from the origins in the port of entry neighborhoods in the Near West side and "River Wards". When I was a kid there was still a very strong Orthodox Jewish community in West Ridge along Peterson and Devon Ave (it was like a miniature Boro Park, Brooklyn) though in recent decades that has declined a lot and the area is today a polyglot community full of Middle Easterners, Asians, Africans, Haitians etc alongside a number of remaining Orthodox.
The Polish communities were different in that Chicago for many years continued to attract a sizeable Polish immigrant population that repeatedly "re-Polonized" Chicago Polonia. A much smaller movement of Italian post-War immigrants to Elmwood Park/Harlem Avenue and Soviet Jews to the far Northside and suburbs had a similar effrct but on a much smaller scale.
Theres one story...during the 60s when all of these guys were quite paranoid, Prio wanted to rent an apartment in the same building where Gus Alex also resided at 1150 North Lake Shore Drive. When Alex heard about the "news", he quickly called Prio and advised him about he moving in the same building, which can bring a very bad publicity and so Prio backed offPolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:03 pm Another interesting fact is that Prio used to live near Granville just a couple of blocks from Patrick's Northside HQ on Devon. Once he moved on up out of the old Sicilian ghetto, Prio wanted to live with the Jews lol.
Thanks yes, I remember reading about this I think in Alex's files?Villain wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:15 pmTheres one story...during the 60s when all of these guys were quite paranoid, Prio wanted to rent an apartment in the same building where Gus Alex also resided at 1150 North Lake Shore Drive. When Alex heard about the "news", he quickly called Prio and advised him about he moving in the same building, which can bring a very bad publicity and so Prio backed offPolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:03 pm Another interesting fact is that Prio used to live near Granville just a couple of blocks from Patrick's Northside HQ on Devon. Once he moved on up out of the old Sicilian ghetto, Prio wanted to live with the Jews lol.
Maybe yeah...if not, then it must be in Prios files lolPolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:38 pmThanks yes, I remember reading about this I think in Alex's files?Villain wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:15 pmTheres one story...during the 60s when all of these guys were quite paranoid, Prio wanted to rent an apartment in the same building where Gus Alex also resided at 1150 North Lake Shore Drive. When Alex heard about the "news", he quickly called Prio and advised him about he moving in the same building, which can bring a very bad publicity and so Prio backed offPolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:03 pm Another interesting fact is that Prio used to live near Granville just a couple of blocks from Patrick's Northside HQ on Devon. Once he moved on up out of the old Sicilian ghetto, Prio wanted to live with the Jews lol.
Bernard "Pee Pee" Posner was one of their prime lieutenants - father of Mike Posner. Also Body Cowan, Jack Gale and some other tough guys.PolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 1:03 pmPatrick and Yaras Sr were truly a couple of mean bastards, no doubt about it!Villain wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:25 amThanks for the explanation bud and yeah, i agree that it happened very quickly or as you said, overnight. Previously Lawndale gave the birth to many Jewish gangsters and as you already know, when the whole transfer occurred, Patrick also transferred on the North with the blessings from both Giancana and Prio. At the same time, Giancana told Patrick from that point on he was going to report to Alex (untill 1990), which possibly means that Patrick also transferred from the West to the South faction since he previously started with Mangano and later answered to Battaglia and Giancana. The Patrick crew was so ruthless that they even had the balls to go against the Buccieri crew lolPolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:43 amThe "YP crew" (lol) stands I think without a doubt as among the most vicious Jewish OC groups in US history.Villain wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:25 amIt is interesting on how during the 50s large number of Jewish population transferred from Lawndale to Rogers Park. And btw, Yaras and Patrick killed almost the same number of people for a time priod of less than 10 years, as some of the Italian crews who killed for more than 15 or 20 years lolPolackTony wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:45 amI think of this line whenever I read about guys like Lenny Patrick and Davey Yaras lol. Also whenever I go to visit my in-laws, who live right next to Patrick's old headquarters "The Four Deuces" at Devon and Bell in West Rogers Park. The joint is now a well known Indo-Pak restaurant "Hyderabad House".
Post WW2 the Jewish communities in the Westside -- in both North Lawndale and my neighborhood of Humboldt Park -- packed up and moved en masse to the far Northside neighborhoods of Albany Park and Rogers Park. As with the famous inner city Italian "Patches" and many old school Irish parishes of lore, inner city Jewish Chicago disintegrated practically overnight. All part of the particular structural pattern of ethnic succession in Chicago, where with each generation the immigrant groups moved in concentric circles away from the origins in the port of entry neighborhoods in the Near West side and "River Wards". When I was a kid there was still a very strong Orthodox Jewish community in West Ridge along Peterson and Devon Ave (it was like a miniature Boro Park, Brooklyn) though in recent decades that has declined a lot and the area is today a polyglot community full of Middle Easterners, Asians, Africans, Haitians etc alongside a number of remaining Orthodox.
The Polish communities were different in that Chicago for many years continued to attract a sizeable Polish immigrant population that repeatedly "re-Polonized" Chicago Polonia. A much smaller movement of Italian post-War immigrants to Elmwood Park/Harlem Avenue and Soviet Jews to the far Northside and suburbs had a similar effrct but on a much smaller scale.
Another interesting fact is that Prio used to live near Granville just a couple of blocks from Patrick's Northside HQ on Devon. Once he moved on up out of the old Sicilian ghetto, Prio wanted to live with the Jews lol.
He also posted one of Steve Panzarella a few weeks ago.SolarSolano wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:35 pm You guys following all these Outfit guys photos in Reddit from BokaBreeze? Some good pics - some creepy assume these are from Facebook. His Frank Caruso Jr. photo must be an old one.