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Angelo Santino wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:31 pm Around the time of the trial, there were articles claiming that Tornabene was boss of the outfit, a news channel showed up at his door step, knocked and he answers in a white t-shirt and they tell him that some are calling him the boss. He smiles in disbelief and says "I can't even walk." Then there was recordings shown of him walking hunched over being escorted by two guys.
It was James Wagner of the Chicago Crime Commission who told the Tribune that Tornabene was the alleged boss. But this all came out only after Nick began giving testimony mentioning him. I really have to wonder whether Tornabene would be a household name in Chicago if Nick had not have placed him at the making ceremony. I think he still would have been quite under the radar.
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Frank wrote: Mon Mar 27, 2023 12:40 pm Is itstill believed that Tornabene was Boss before Marcello?
Based on the information we have, yes.
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B. wrote: Sat Mar 25, 2023 8:49 am The chairman was automatically a consigliere because he sat on the consiglio and presided over it. There's reason to suspect this was equivalent to what we call the official consigliere in Families with the singular admin position of consigliere but we can't say for sure this was always the case if it's true someone like Priziola in Detroit was both underboss and council secretary. Cavita found evidence Rockford may have had a consiglio and that the official consigliere presided over it which would be an example of that role being the same. Some of the ceremonial duties of the official consigliere in certain Families without a consiglio are also consistent with the council secretary in consiglio Families which adds to that.
Yes, and with my example the consigliere (Joe Zito in this case) had sided with the unnamed individual, who I suspect was Dr. Joseph Bona. Rockford LCN member Sebastian Gulotta called a meeting before the consiglio against Bona. When Zito stated that Bona was to be afforded a certain degree of respect because of his position, it was the capo, Lorenzo Buttice, who stated that when Bona disrespected Gulotta, he disrespected the entire family and Zito was forced to reverse his decision. So in this case, the consigliere didn't have the final say and the capo was the sort of "checks and balance" system of the consiglio.
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Just saw this picture of the Capri Facebook page. Gigi with Joe Todaro Jr the boss of Buffalo. Not sure where it is exactly but interesting if Buffalo and Chicago are working together somehow
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Patrickgold wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:32 pm Just saw this picture of the Capri Facebook page. Gigi with Joe Todaro Jr the boss of Buffalo. Not sure where it is exactly but interesting if Buffalo and Chicago are working together somehow
Ha! It’s at a Greco & Sons location it seems. As in Matteo LoBue. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if they have some sort of business arrangement.
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It’s at a convention in Vegas, if only it was 40 years ago I’d say they’re there to pick up the skim
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Honk wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:34 pm It’s at a convention in Vegas, if only it was 40 years ago I’d say they’re there to pick up the skim
So at a Greco & Sons display at a convention then?
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Oh whoa, didn't make the LoBue connection. I doubt there's anything criminal to it but if nothing else it shows birds of a feather like to socialize and network.
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Patrickgold wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:32 pm Just saw this picture of the Capri Facebook page. Gigi with Joe Todaro Jr the boss of Buffalo. Not sure where it is exactly but interesting if Buffalo and Chicago are working together somehow
Great find
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So Matteo LoBue is rumored to be made according to Rick's guy and the Buffalo boss took a photo with a mafia-affiliated Chicago restaurant owner in front of LoBue's display. It's almost like they were doing it for the Black Hand Forum. Too bad Tommy Gambino wasn't in the background.
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PolackTony wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:21 pm
Patrickgold wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:32 pm Just saw this picture of the Capri Facebook page. Gigi with Joe Todaro Jr the boss of Buffalo. Not sure where it is exactly but interesting if Buffalo and Chicago are working together somehow
Ha! It’s at a Greco & Sons location it seems. As in Matteo LoBue. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if they have some sort of business arrangement.
Is LoBue the owner of Greco and Sons now?
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Patrickgold wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:26 pm
PolackTony wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 7:21 pm
Patrickgold wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 5:32 pm Just saw this picture of the Capri Facebook page. Gigi with Joe Todaro Jr the boss of Buffalo. Not sure where it is exactly but interesting if Buffalo and Chicago are working together somehow
Ha! It’s at a Greco & Sons location it seems. As in Matteo LoBue. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if they have some sort of business arrangement.
Is LoBue the owner of Greco and Sons now?
President. They got sold to Cysco for a fuckton of money but were allowed to keep their own management and branding so they still function like their own company it seems.
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B. wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:10 pm So Matteo LoBue is rumored to be made according to Rick's guy and the Buffalo boss took a photo with a mafia-affiliated Chicago restaurant owner in front of LoBue's display. It's almost like they were doing it for the Black Hand Forum. Too bad Tommy Gambino wasn't in the background.
Who do you think was providing the wine so they could toast 100 years to each other?
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PolackTony wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:28 pm
B. wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:10 pm So Matteo LoBue is rumored to be made according to Rick's guy and the Buffalo boss took a photo with a mafia-affiliated Chicago restaurant owner in front of LoBue's display. It's almost like they were doing it for the Black Hand Forum. Too bad Tommy Gambino wasn't in the background.
Who do you think was providing the wine so they could toast 100 years to each other?
Todaro has lost a lot of weight but looks healthy. He's planning to be boss for 100 years.
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B. wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:31 pm
PolackTony wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 10:28 pm
B. wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:10 pm So Matteo LoBue is rumored to be made according to Rick's guy and the Buffalo boss took a photo with a mafia-affiliated Chicago restaurant owner in front of LoBue's display. It's almost like they were doing it for the Black Hand Forum. Too bad Tommy Gambino wasn't in the background.
Who do you think was providing the wine so they could toast 100 years to each other?
Todaro has lost a lot of weight but looks healthy. He's planning to be boss for 100 years.
One day in the future, Don Gigi will send his wishes from him and the whole Capri staff to Don Joe on his 100 bday.
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