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Who were the two factions when gambino was seen as neutral? I would assume there was a Calabrian/mainland faction and a Palermo Sicilian one but if the Palermo guys backed anastasia then what were the factions? Interesting Good question. Rava was one and there was another one. I've tried using the ...

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Who were the two factions when gambino was seen as neutral? I would assume there was a Calabrian/mainland faction and a Palermo Sicilian one but if the Palermo guys backed anastasia then what were the factions? Interesting Good question. Rava was one and there was another one. I've tried using the ...

Danny’s crew was merged with Big John’s crew it seems
Now they’ve reinstated a Brooklyn crew but it’s not linked to any of the previous ones

It seems to me that DeRoss was jealous of Cutolo and he played off Allie Boys fears of another war. Jackie brought Billy into the family and now Billy was the underboss, a huge earner and well liked by everyone whereas Jackie was none of that. Unfortunately he had Allie Boys ear and was able to poi...

It seems to me that DeRoss was jealous of Cutolo and he played off Allie Boys fears of another war. Jackie brought Billy into the family and now Billy was the underboss, a huge earner and well liked by everyone whereas Jackie was none of that. Unfortunately he had Allie Boys ear and was able to poi...

Did Billy actually make any moves to fuel that paranoia of taking over the family after Allie was caught with the guns? Why was Jackie DeRoss so adamant about wanting Billy to get clipped? Was he promised the UB position in advance of Bill going? I really find this topic very interesting...a huge h...

I've always believed that family would have been better off with Wild Bill at the helm. Allie Boy said “He can’t take what’s not his” He was going to take over the family according to the testimony at Allie Boy’s trial He buried himself. Mikey Scars spoke highly of Allie Boy. He was not a bad choice

He was out in the public for a bit many years ago promoting a program called "Out of the Life" for ex-wiseguys. I'd be interested in what he's up to now. I believe the other Families didn't recognize Persico as official boss for a time after the war. DiLeonardo said Allie Persico held a m...

Thank you, very interesting breakdown. DeRoss was the lynchpin to Cutolo’s demise. He really shifted fully to Persico alliance. Thank you DeRoss would say “I brought bill into this family and then I took him out of this family.” Bill was in Jackie’s crew but then at some point, Bill became a Capo a...

Thank you

johnny_scootch wrote: ↑Fri May 31, 2024 7:49 am Good post, Al.

Thank you

Here is a link to the entire docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4318819/united-states-v-persico/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc This post contains docket number 813. The dockets after that are transcripts which can be bought for 30 dollars. PA...

NOTICE OF FILING OF OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT of Proceedings as to Alphonse T Persico, John J. DeRoss, Michael Spataro, Carmine DeRoss, III held on November 15, 2007, before Judge Joanna Seybert. The following will include the aforementioned transcript I would also like to include some testimony notes fro...

Where can I access Gentile’s memoirs? The book hasn't been translated into English, but if you speak or understand Italian, you can sometimes find it on sites like eBay (it took me years, but I managed to find it last year last, and yet I live near Italy) Articles on Gentile's book have been transl...